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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Matthew on September 27, 2015, 08:04:28 AM
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Here is what we know about the infamous Pablo (Paul Hernandez):
1. He has somehow managed to get himself placed in charge of operations in Boston, KY
1b. He is often placed in charge of the seminarians in Boston, KY, and many seminarians have left because of this. His direction of the seminarians is anything but edifying, with Pablo frequently cancelling classes, prayer, etc. in favor of work. He has no spiritual life, so that isn't surprising.
2. He owns all the website properties, and is the main contact point for Fr. Pfeiffer's group. He receives all the e-mails. He is the point man for communications.
3. He, along with one older woman, takes care of the finances of Fr. Pfeiffer's operation.
4. He has a very bad reputation in many circles: for years, he has been known as "Pablo the devil" and "Pablo the witch" in Spanish.
5. He has told us personally here on CathInfo that he practices Omerta, which is normally associated with the Mafia.
6. In his many Internet posts (including CathInfo, youtube comments, e-mails), one could discern he had a boastful and proud bearing. His posts were filled with drama and braggadocio. He seeks fame and power.
7. He has bragged in the past (on CathInfo) about doing "hand to hand combat" with the devil.
8. He publicly admitted on CathInfo to all his "Ghostbuster" style lay-exorcist activities (http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez-6418725), as covered in a local newspaper. At that point, he was banned here.
9. These activities included "waiting up" for the devil to manifest himself, with a boom box and a deck of playing cards.
10. His Sensus Catholicus (Catholic sense) seems to be broken or non-existent.
11. But this superstitious fascination with the devil or imprudent dabbling in things demonic happened YEARS AGO. But where did that take him today?
12. Pablo doesn't attend Mass anymore, and hasn't for years -- even though he lives on the Boston, KY property itself.
13. Pablo's personal family life is irregular to say the least. Pablo is married. That's all I'm going to say about that.
14. He has a reputation for bullying and harassing innocent Traditional Catholics, and has been banned from many SSPX chapels.
15. Pablo doesn't hold back when his intended victim is a woman or elderly (or both!)
16. He has harassed Mrs. Pfeiffer, Fr. Pfeiffer's mother, on several occasions. She has cast him out of the property -- or tried to -- several times.
17. Pablo found and/or promoted an Orthodox con-man, Ambrose Moran, whose very dubious stories don't check out or add up.
17b. Did Pablo have anything to do with Fr. Pfeiffer's current friendship/alliance with Fr. Tetherow, a convicted pedophile? It turns out that Fr. Tetherow also has a thing for exorcisms, and has a creepy "look into my eyes" routine. Fr. Tetherow also "broke the sixth commandment" with a woman. Birds of a feather?
18. He has a very nice house in Phoenix, AZ, which he apparently doesn't even live in. How does he afford the property taxes, even if it's paid off?
19. He used to be a pipefitter. Do they pay so well that he can retire early? See #3.
20. Pablo is allegedly some kind of involved in the life of married woman who recently moved to Boston, who is not living with her husband. The husband wants her to come home; Pablo is interfering. Pablo also goes to this woman's house late at night. This comes from those who live in Boston, KY. I can't confirm this point personally.
20b. Apparently this #20 isn't the first time he has interfered in a couple's marriage like this.
21. One ex-seminarian reported that Pablo is sometimes up at night drinking with a married woman.
22. Pablo has threatened many people over the years, many of which threats we have in writing (e-mail, posts, youtube comments, etc.)
23. Apparently there are lots of unnatural and preternatural incidents that have happened around Pablo.
24. Pablo has talked about witches in his neighborhood sending the cats to do unnatural things (like defecate on his roof -- cats don't naturally do this)
25. "[Pablo] may leave objects that can cause spiritual trouble as happened to a friend of mine. She had to get rid of everything that had passed through Pablo's hands before things were ok." Another sign that Pablo could be mixed up in some dark arts.
26. Pablo has "big televisions in the rooms" at his house in Phoenix, AZ. This is the same house where Fr. Pfeiffer says Mass when he's in Phoenix. See #10.
27. Fr. Voigt, a good priest, recently left Fr. Pfeiffer's group partly because of Pablo.
28. Pablo has certainly not discouraged, but actively encouraged, Fr. Pfeiffer into an isolated cult mentality, sectarianism, and in-fighting with fellow Resistance priests. See #1
29. Pablo has done various things calculated to harm the Resistance and start trouble, like posting the personal addresses (not the Mass center locations) of all the Resistance Mass center coordinators. And attacking Fr. Zendejas and Bishop Williamson.
30. Pablo has often exaggerated and caused confusion: For example, one time he posted "The only thing left [of the Pfeiffer ranch] is the mailbox."
31. Pablo has successfully helped divide at least the American Resistance, and caused countless chaos and spiritual harm.
32. Catholic doctrine/common sense dictate that laymen must not get involved with the devil, or... very bad things can happen. But Pablo has flaunted this rule. Did he prove the Catholic Church to be wrong, making a big deal over nothing? Or, on the contrary, is he a "statistic" about what happens to a layman when he messes with the devil?
33. Why is Fr. Pfeiffer so attached to Pablo, who is objectively speaking a superstitious, apostate layman? I can't think of any other Trad priest who has been "partner" with such an individual for almost TWO DECADES. It boggles the mind. But everything happens for a reason. There has to be an explanation. Mind control? Blackmail? Manipulation? Diabolical influence? All of the above? Let's look at the fruits of this partnership: are they evil?
34. Recently, Pablo has outdone himself and slandered Fr. Voigt, accusing him of outrageous things. But these accusations are things which any objective individual, looking at the evidence and the lives of both men, would consider much more likely to have been done by Pablo himself than by Fr. Voigt!
For some mysterious reason, Fr. Pfeiffer is totally blind to the evils enumerated above. Pablo has been with Father for 18 years now. "For better or worse?" Give me a break.
Now this might not come as a surprise, but increasingly I am hearing reports, rumors, and passing mentions of actual satanism and witchcraft being practiced by Pablo. Keeping all the facts (above) in mind, can we really say those reports are not credible? I can't. It actually doesn't matter if he's a mason, satanist, or what have you. Just the facts above are enough to CAST PABLO OUT OF THE RESISTANCE ALTOGETHER, and for Catholics to avoid Pablo at all costs.
The reports are piling up on my desk -- I have to say SOMETHING.
In conclusion, I must ask for prayers for Fr. Pfeiffer, Fr. Hewko, Fr. Voigt, and all the fervent Traditional Catholics nationwide who depend on this group for Mass and the Sacraments. These Catholics are trying to keep the Faith.
This is a classic example of a struggle that is "not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places." (Ephesians 6:12)
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469 is from his phone number actually. So I wouldn't assume he had bad intentions using it for a screen name.
True, it COULD be just a phone number. The first part of my phone number is "420" which is slang for smoking pot.
However, I would *never* just happen to use the first 3 digits of my phone number as part of a screen name -- unless I WANTED to have a name with pot smoking innuendo. The 420 prefix is almost the only prefix used for local Marion phone numbers, so I have to tolerate it in my phone number. But unless I'm into smoking pot, I'm not going to "run with it" and use it as part of my online persona.
Long story short, HE chose his screen name. Those aren't just handed out. The phone number bit could just be a plausible-sounding excuse. Like I said above, he might have chosen his phone number anyhow. Also, keep in mind that you can also pay for "vanity" phone numbers -- Pablo seems to have a few dollars in his pocket. Just look at his house.
Do you think Yellow Cab just got "lucky" with the phone number they were given? 222-2222?
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Is there a link between Pablo and Dawn Marie? I remember her enthusiasts on ABLF 1.0 strenuously defending Pablo, no matter how ridiculous his behavior.
Moderator note: Sorry Hollingsworth, Ladislaus: I am going to keep this thread on target. I don't want a lot of other topics to work their way into this thread. Take it elsewhere if you want to discuss those things, including D.M.
On the other hand, I think Pablo is a devil. Why people don't abandon Fr. Pfeiffer wholesale, is beyond me, if for no other reason than his association with Pablo. If it is true that Pablo has been with Fr. P for 18 years, then that relationship was going on while the latter was still in SSPX. So the SSPX must have tolerated Hernandez. The Mechican tells me everything I want to know about Fr. P.. But, apparently, it doesn't force others to abandon this priest.
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469 is the number of his union in Phoenix. Which is completely Masonic of course.
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469 is the number of his union in Phoenix. Which is completely Masonic of course.
Ok, so there IS a problem with that number. Just not what I originally thought.
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I forgot to put his picture in the OP!
He seems to like the color black, as well as always wearing dark sunglasses -- you know, to cover those "windows of the soul", the eyes.
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Definitely has the "look." Maybe he was Father Pfeiffer's handler from the beginning?
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Without going into sordid speculations and the sometimes scandalous history, it is enough to know that there are bad things associated with this group.
Father Pfeiffer and Father Hewko must be accountable as men. They persist in defending and maintaining the very questionable status quo. The were supposedly well formed in the SSPX. That too is questionable.
All of their preaching and activities must be qualified by this simple fact and unfortunately held as suspect and possibly dangerous.
The least derogative way to admit to this is to say that this outfit must be "Red Lighted" or perhaps painted with Safety Orange as danger zone.
Pray for these men, but avoid them, for the present.
The SSPX and its spinoffs are ruining what is left of neo-tradition.
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Without going into sordid speculations and the sometimes scandalous history, it is enough to know that there are bad things associated with this group.
Father Pfeiffer and Father Hewko must be accountable as men. They persist in defending and maintaining the very questionable status quo. The were supposedly well formed in the SSPX. That too is questionable.
All of their preaching and activities must be qualified by this simple fact and unfortunately held as suspect and possibly dangerous.
The least derogative way to admit to this is to say that this outfit must be "Red Lighted" or perhaps painted with Safety Orange as danger zone.
Pray for these men, but avoid them, for the present.
The SSPX and its spinoffs are ruining what is left of neo-tradition.
Yes! This is very important. The recent events have little to do with Pablo. There is always one "Pablo" in every parish in the world, Catholic, Protestant, whatever. There is always one parishioner who is over-involved, who think he/she knows better than Father, who think he/she knows whats going in Menzigen better than Father. However, it is always the parish priest's proper place of LEADERSHIP to put that person in his/her rightful place in a sincere and charitable way.
If, indeed, Pablo bought a plane ticket for this new "Bishop" to come to Boston, it was in the leadership position of the Fathers to put that person in place and escort the kind "Bishop" back to wherever he came from and NOT to put a miter on his head and let him celebrate the sacraments and preach without an honest introduction to the faithful. The fault of the recent events rests on the consciousness of the Fathers, not this Pablo character. As priests, they have an obligation to lead their congregations.
And, finally, hypocrisy is a sin. When Bishop Schneider and Cardinal Brandmuller, two very holy Bishops, conducted visitations to SSPX seminaries and gave "talks" in the SSPX seminary, many resistance priests stood on their pulpits and decried the events as another evidence of the SSPX sliding to Rome. Note that neither bishop celebrated mass or gave a homily. They just visited the seminaries, spoke to the faculty and students, and gave a talk.
This "Bishop," who has a MUCH MORE QUESTIONABLE past then either of the aforementioned two bishops, not only celebrated mass, but also preached a "homily." This is hypocrisy and a sin. No, my friends, this has nothing to do with Pablo. This is the fault of the Fathers.
Unless they provide a rational and logical answer soon, I believe many things will change.....
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And, finally, hypocrisy is a sin. When Bishop Schneider and Cardinal Brandmuller, two very holy Bishops...
They are merely modernists with a conservative stripe down their backs.
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It is a well-known thing for laymen to have undue influence over priests born of their need to engage socially and compensate for family life. I suppose it is part of being human and priests are certainly that whatever else is ascribed. Laymen for their part feel they acquire something special by associating closely with priests. I have noticed women get especially excited in their company and it is not hard to imagine forceful individuals offering their services to priests that need them. The danger is such mutuality becomes an important feature in a priest's life, making his unique role within the Church secondary.
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It is a well-known thing for laymen to have undue influence over priests born of their need to engage socially and compensate for family life. I suppose it is part of being human and priests are certainly that whatever else is ascribed. Laymen for their part feel they acquire something special by associating closely with priests. I have noticed women get especially excited in their company and it is not hard to imagine forceful individuals offering their services to priests that need them. The danger is such mutuality becomes an important feature in a priest's life, making his unique role within the Church secondary.
Yes! This is exactly what I meant, essentially, in my earlier post.
There is always a "Pablo" in most parishes in the country.
It's the job of the fathers to keep them at a safe distance.
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tkgs - Perhaps matthew studies other religions. I do. I find it useful in understanding my own. And, smoking pot is a religion. I think pot heads "toke up" at 4:20pm daily. It is their devotional time. On april 20th(4/20), they usually smoke pot all day. They probably received this devotion while on cloud 9(the place they go when they are high).
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The first part of my phone number is "420" which is slang for smoking pot.
How on earth would you know that, and why is 420 a slang for smoking pot? Do the number 448 have some nefarious meaning?
Let's just say that I'll never be one of those people who wears ignorance like a badge of honor. I don't mind filling my brain with information at all times, so I'm never "clueless" about anything. Other religions, street smarts, the Internet, various scams, things worldlings are doing, you name it.
I love knowledge, not ignorance. What can I say?
Obviously I have preferences as to what I study and learn about. But if I have a choice to "learn about the world" while in the grocery line, or stare into space and catch flies in my gaping mouth, I'm going to choose A. My mind is always active and learning.
I have a constant attitude of learning and observing. I'm a philosopher. I never intentionally forget things, or try not to learn things. Quite the opposite. I certainly am very curious.
I learn plenty just by skimming the headlines -- not reading the articles, mind you, but just skimming them. Sometimes I read an article here or there. I do read pretty fast, so it doesn't take me very long.
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"420" is a pretty much part of pop culture. Unless you were lucky enough to grow up super sheltered in the 80s/90s, you heard this joke.
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"420" is a pretty much part of pop culture. Unless you were lucky enough to grow up super sheltered in the 80s/90s, you heard this joke.
Count me lucky :P My husband had to tell me about this just a couple of years ago.
To be fair, in young adulthood I knew a fair share of pot smokers at work/around town. Still never heard it.
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Let's just say that I'll never be one of those people who wears ignorance like a badge of honor. I don't mind filling my brain with information at all times
Amen, this is the attitude of anyone who loves Our Lord
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Let's just say that I'll never be one of those people who wears ignorance like a badge of honor. I don't mind filling my brain with information at all times
Amen, this is the attitude of anyone who loves Our Lord
..or of a proud rooster, in which case all this worldly knowledge is like foolishness in God's eyes.
Maybe so.
But I believe God gave me my brain for a reason: to be used. At any rate, I can't seem to find the off switch. I never just sit there and "exist". I'm always thinking ferociously about something, whatever it is I'm doing. And I also have a hard time forgetting things.
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Let's just say that I'll never be one of those people who wears ignorance like a badge of honor. I don't mind filling my brain with information at all times
Amen, this is the attitude of anyone who loves Our Lord
..or of a proud rooster, in which case all this worldly knowledge is like foolishness in God's eyes.
Maybe so.
But I believe God gave me my brain for a reason: to be used. At any rate, I can't seem to find the off switch. I never just sit there and "exist". I'm always thinking ferociously about something, whatever it is I'm doing. And I also have a hard time forgetting things.
Then you surely have not forgotten that we are all ashes and to ashes we shall all return.
You have taken a grave responsibility on your shoulders by posting such a long laundry list of serious accusations. I hope for your own sake that you have sufficient proof of each one of them.
If proven true though, you may want to set your brain to work on the following question : If Frs Hewko/Pfeiffer are really under the influence of this devil incarnate, where is that showing in their teachings, or if not, why not ? I am having a hard time understanding how someone who is under a spell by the devil can still preach what seems to me like excellent sermons.
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I can completely relate to what you are saying Matthew. Somehow my mother never told me to stop when I was always asking questions as a child. I once put my fingers in an old fashioned bar soap grinder in a lady's room, and started to grind my fingers to find out how it worked. I was about 4, and thankfully, I only cut my fingers; I did not lose them. I later proceeded to see what sliding down the steeper hill on the school playground would be like and broke my arm in two places. One of my earliest sins was lying to my mother when I was seven. I never lied to her for other reasons, but I so much wanted to read articles in the encyclopedias we had and they were a bit above my reading level, so I started making up fake school assignments. Poor Mama! She raised me with only grandma to help her and had to work 3 jobs, about 100 hours a week to raise me, or she would have gladly read me everything I wanted. She finally figured out this was too much work for my grade level and I confessed. I always wanted to know and learn everything that I could, at least until high school, when I realized higher math was beyond me. I just could not get calculus and trigonometry. But I still try to learn a lot of things, and before fibromyalgia, I used be be considered a walking encyclopedia and dictionary by those who knew me. My ability to learn and remember may be greatly below Matthew's, but I never stopped trying. While I focus more on Catholic topics now, I still see what is happening in the world and research health, history and so on. God gave us minds for a reason. They are to be subordinated to God, but they were given to be used. Not that everyone has to be as avid, not to mention foolhardy, as I have been.
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6. In his many Internet posts, one could discern he had a boastful and proud bearing. His posts were filled with drama and braggadocio. He seeks fame and power.
I noticed this too on ABLF 1.0, but I naively thought he was being tongue-in-cheek. Before he was banned from ABLF I thought he was a relatively harmless eccentric. I had no idea he was actually taken seriously by important figures in the trad movement. I posted this photoshop mockup spoofing his penchant to start ridiculous threads instructing trads how to be manly:
(http://i.imgur.com/QgKYV1U.jpg)
He got a kick out it, which suggested to me that he didn't take himself all that seriously, but maybe I was wrong.
It's astonishing to me that such a goofball could rise to a position of influence in trad-dom.
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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?
There is definitely something wrong there.
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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?
There is definitely something wrong there.
Actually I have heard of Trads leaving green scapulars around people they are trying to convert -- those on their deathbed, fallen away Catholics, and so forth.
I even heard about one zealous Trad visiting the local Masonic lodge and leaving green scapulars whenever they weren't looking.
The real question is, who could leave something secretly at the house of a TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING for any kind of non-evil purpose? We're already on God's side. So if someone's trying to convert us, or do something we wouldn't approve, it MUST be evil.
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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?
There is definitely something wrong there.
Actually I have heard of Trads leaving green scapulars around people they are trying to convert -- those on their deathbed, fallen away Catholics, and so forth.
I even heard about one zealous Trad visiting the local Masonic lodge and leaving green scapulars whenever they weren't looking.
The real question is, who could leave something secretly at the house of a TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING for any kind of non-evil purpose? We're already on God's side. So if someone's trying to convert us, or do something we wouldn't approve, it MUST be evil.
Yes, the leaving of a rosary or scapular behind, usually someone at the home knows about it, and is from good intentions, but just the opposite with pablo. To do such a thing as he does shows malicious intent, or intent to bring evil or curse the house. That is diabolical.
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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?
There is definitely something wrong there.
Actually I have heard of Trads leaving green scapulars around people they are trying to convert -- those on their deathbed, fallen away Catholics, and so forth.
I even heard about one zealous Trad visiting the local Masonic lodge and leaving green scapulars whenever they weren't looking.
The real question is, who could leave something secretly at the house of a TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING for any kind of non-evil purpose? We're already on God's side. So if someone's trying to convert us, or do something we wouldn't approve, it MUST be evil.
Yes, the leaving of a rosary or scapular behind, usually someone at the home knows about it, and is from good intentions, but just the opposite with pablo. To do such a thing as he does shows malicious intent, or intent to bring evil or curse the house. That is diabolical.
How could a curse or witchcraft be attached to a sacramental item? Would God allow such a thing? Leaving rosaries or scapulars behind could be an act of charity, hoping they will be a reminder to someone in the home to use them more frequently. I have seen it attested by many that Pablo is uncouth and intimidating, a svengali, pushy, and worse. I think such testimony from so many (those in Kentucky especially) probably has basis in fact. Is it really necessary to make this a witch-hunt too?
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How could a curse or witchcraft be attached to a sacramental item? Would God allow such a thing? Leaving rosaries or scapulars behind could be an act of charity, hoping they will be a reminder to someone in the home to use them more frequently. I have seen it attested by many that Pablo is uncouth and intimidating, a svengali, pushy, and worse. I think such testimony from so many (those in Kentucky especially) probably has basis in fact. Is it really necessary to make this a witch-hunt too?
1. Who said he's leaving sacramentals? I doubt he's hiding rosaries or scapulars in the homes of Trad Catholics, if these reports of witchcraft are true. Probably other objects.
2. No, it wasn't theoretically necessary that Pablo be into witchcraft. But if he IS practicing the dark arts, then yes, it is quite necessary. Just like the saying, "You're not paranoid if someone IS trying to kill you." Likewise, it's not a proverbial witch hunt if you're exposing a real case of witchcraft.
Let's face it -- who else am I accusing of witchcraft? No one. Do I really have a tendency to cry wolf about witches? When in the past have I (and others here) been wrong about this? How can you say this is a "witch hunt" as if it's always a witch hunt every time you investigate or expose a case of witchcraft? That's ridiculous.
These reports have recently surfaced, and a lot of serious stuff is going on in Boston, KY. "Violations of the moral law", Fr. Voigt leaving after an argument that escalated to "more than words", the seminary emptying out, etc. And let's not forget the uncovering "from nowhere" of an Orthodox con man pretending to be a bishop who might still be Orthodox, an imposter, a plant, a Freemason, etc.
I don't think this can all be attributed to a "pablo the m exican" as I originally knew him (quirky, eccentric, but harmless). All these reports aside, we already knew he had a fascination with the devil over 12 years ago. Who knows where such activity could lead? We know as Catholics that such activity is bad news. Why? Think about that one. If there's no concrete, real danger in dabbling in superstition and the devil, then how can we claim it's dangerous? What concrete evil happens to that foolhardy person who ignores the dangers and plays with that Ouija board, has that seance, or tries to talk/struggle with the devil unnecessarily? What if a foolish person goes ahead and cultivates an unhealthy curiosity and fascination with the devil -- will anything bad come of it? Nothing? Then how can we say such behavior is dangerous and to be avoided? See my point?
If the danger in such activities is real -- if the Catholic Faith is correct in its doctrine -- then some REAL HARM/EVIL might have come to Pablo by following this path. It's only logical and realistic, like water flowing downhill.
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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?
There is definitely something wrong there.
I am defending no one, but for the sake of accuracy, there is very good reason to leave a scapular behind without telling the person you are trying to help. That is especially true of the Green Scapular that may be left under a mattress, in a bureau drawer, under a lamp or anywhere else that won't be disturbed. Countless conversions happen this way. It is not a spell or magic, it is a constant prayer to Our Lady for that person's conversion.
I don't know how it happens, but there is always someone like Pablo around. I have known Fr. Hewko for decades and love him dearly, but he is not the best judge of character. He always seems to err, when he does err, on the side of charity. He is a very good priest and a real innocent. It seems those are the kind that cannot see the harm in a Pablo type who seems so anxious to help and is in need of conversion.
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This web-site sure reminds me of the National Enquirer.
And here you are, reading the filthy gossip rag that is CathInfo.
As they say, "BUSTED!"
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H E Bishop Williamson knows most of what I have related and more. However, he does not see himself as a bishop with jurisdiction. He has admonished Fr Pfeiffer to send Pablo away, but he can not enforce this. So he is sending people to Fr. Zendejas.I imagine his disassociation from Boston is his statement of position.
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MA Grow:
H E Bishop Williamson knows most of what I have related and more. However, he does not see himself as a bishop with jurisdiction. He has admonished Fr Pfeiffer to send Pablo away, but he can not enforce this. So he is sending people to Fr. Zendejas.I imagine his disassociation from Boston is his statement of position.
Yes, true. He has admonished Fr. Pfeiffer to send Pablo packing. That is true! But Father seems to have the 'Frank Sinatra' complex. He does it his way. Meanwhile, he expresses his total lack of confidence in the bishop, and expects that same bishop to come to Boston in order to ordain his poor formed "seminarians."
I got a call from a woman yesterday, who, thank God, has seen the light. Although she and her large family attend a "resistance" chapel under Fr. Pfeiffer's 'pastorship,' she is steering her oldest son, who may have a vocation, away from Pfeifferville. We've been praying a lot for this family. It may be that some of our prayers are now being answered.
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For the record, Mr. K, Matthew is busy working which is why I get to supervise your nonsense. Please don't post unless you can do so respectfully.
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nonsense
I apologize, as what you have to say isn't necessarily nonsense, but it lacked substance. What is it that you've seen that disproves the accusations being made by others? (not by Matthew, btw, he's never been to Boston, KY) What we have is a he said - she said and the only details put forth from first-hand accounts here haven't been very pretty.
We all know Frs. Hewko and Pfeiffer and most of us have given them substantial amounts of support. Most here think they are good priests who are capable of great things with only a few exceptions that are unfortunately very serious issues.
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This whole situation is very saddening to say the least as we all know. This may sound very silly and foolish but I wonder if Pablo has "something" on Father Pfeiffer? A secret of some sorts perhaps? It just really boggles my mind that after all that is taking place, Father Pfeiffer hasn't applied any fraternal correction to Pablo on any level...to say the least.
Does anyone know the history of their relationship? We're they childhood friends and Father Pfeiffer feels compelled to keep Pablo around? I know that Father Timothy Pfeiffer is all the way across the world, but it would be interesting if he had any insight on all this because this is truly becoming some sort of twilight zone.
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This whole situation is very saddening to say the least as we all know. This may sound very silly and foolish but I wonder if Pablo has "something" on Father Pfeiffer? A secret of some sorts perhaps? It just really boggles my mind that after all that is taking place, Father Pfeiffer hasn't applied any fraternal correction to Pablo on any level...to say the least.
I have wondered the same thing. Earlier, I wondered what kind of a similar hold Max Krah might have on Bp. Fellay. It occurred to me then that Krah and his tribal associates might know something damaging about the Superior General of SSPX, which the latter would not care to have revealed. It's all speculation, of course, and I make no specific accusations. But it is rather puzzling.
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In Fr. Pfeiffer's case, I think it's just an emotional promise (vow?) he made to try to convert Pablo before he dies. Hence his epic and common-sense defying amounts of patience with him. That's all it would take.
But Father's common sense isn't very common. You don't allow an evil associate to LITERALLY show pornography to your seminarians, and work all sorts of evil, causing damage to souls and your apostolate, while you fulfill some emotional vow you made to "do my utmost to convert him".
That's foolish behavior. Might not be malicious, but it's certainly foolish.
It's not about losing patience with a soul (like Pablo) or leaving him to the devil -- it's about taking care of the souls God entrusted to you. If someone is causing spiritual harm, you MUST cut them off and out of your life. It's not a choice.
It's about doing God's will rather than one's own. And I assure you, it's God's will that Fr. Pfeiffer throw Pablo out on the street, cold-turkey.
Pablo has free will. If he wants to be damned, that is his choice. But you can't have "infinite" patience with him, regardless of how he destroys your important Catholic apostolate and/or countless souls.
Does Fr. Pfeiffer have ANY reason, or is he ALL emotion?
Our Lord even spoke about this -- if your eye or your hand scandalize thee, CUT IT OFF and cast it from thee.
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Matthew:
In Fr. Pfeiffer's case, I think it's just an emotional promise (vow?) he made to try to convert Pablo before he dies. Hence his epic and common-sense defying amounts of patience with him. That's all it would take.
Well, whatever "emotional promise" Father might have made to Pablo, this speculative "promise," while, perhaps, protecting Pablo against the day of his death, severely damages and hurts a lot of other souls in the meantime. I read Psalm 57:4 today:
"The wicked are alienated from the womb, they have gone astray from the womb: they have spoken false things."
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The house in Phoenix has been sold.
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Montfort: This whole situation is very saddening to say the least as we all know. This may sound very silly and foolish but I wonder if Pablo has "something" on Father Pfeiffer? A secret of some sorts perhaps? It just really boggles my mind that after all that is taking place, Father Pfeiffer hasn't applied any fraternal correction to Pablo on any level...to say the least.
I have wondered the same thing. Earlier, I wondered what kind of a similar hold Max Krah might have on Bp. Fellay. It occurred to me then that Krah and his tribal associates might know something damaging about the Superior General of SSPX, which the latter would not care to have revealed. It's all speculation, of course, and I make no specific accusations. But it is rather puzzling.
A perfectly reasonable speculation at that, considering that blackmail and extortion of that sort is the stock and trade of the tribal associates since time immemorial.
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This may sound very silly and foolish but I wonder if Pablo has "something" on Father Pfeiffer?
Not silly at all; I've long wondered about this. If it isn't some information with which to blackmail him, it could be some other form of control (related to the black arts he's known to dabble in).
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You don't allow an evil associate to LITERALLY show pornography to your seminarians, and work all sorts of evil, causing damage to souls and your apostolate, while you fulfill some emotional vow you made to "do my utmost to convert him".
Absolutely. If Father Pfeiffer wanted to absorb some harm personally in the interests of converting Pablo, that's his choice. But when he's allowing spiritual harm to OTHERS over whom he has charge, then he's crossed the line. He's under strict obligation to dismiss Pablo.
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1. He has somehow managed to get himself placed in charge of operations in Boston, KY
My Response: He is only in charge in the sense that others have dropped the ball. There are so many who want to be in charge in name only, yet do little or nothing to actually help out the seminary. I have seen those who come to assist the seminary complain that they have to work.
Pablo butts heads with those who show up, expecting everything handed to them on silver platters.
He does occasionally have a temper, which has infuriated some, and he has butted heads when it wasn't entirely necessary. However, he does work, and has helped out very much, in many ways.
2. He owns all the website properties, and is the main contact point for Fr. Pfeiffer's group. He receives all the e-mails.
My response: He maintains them, and would rather receive the flak associated with the sites than have the Fathers take the heat. He receives those emails which are sent to certain email address, but he does not receive all emails.
3. He, along with one older woman, takes care of the finances of Fr. Pfeiffer's operation.
My response: Father is too busy taking the Mass and the sacraments to have daily maintenance over the finances. This is not a problem, nor should it be a source of contention, as long as the seminary is running, and the missions are receiving the sacraments.
4. He has a very bad reputation in many circles: he is known as "Pablo the devil" and "Pablo the witch" in Spanish.
My response: He is know that by those who have little concern for charity. These nicknames are slanderous, and do not accurately portray Pablo.
Matthew 5:44
But I say to you, Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you.
5. He has told us personally that he practices Omerta, which is normally associated with the Mafia.
My response: I will not deal with hearsay or rumors, and neither should anyone else.
6. In his many Internet posts, one could discern he had a boastful and proud bearing. His posts were filled with drama and braggadocio. He seeks fame and power.
My response: So what? This is a ridiculous complaint, which speaks more of the one making the complaint.
Matthew 27:18
For he knew that for envy they had delivered him.
7. He has bragged in the past about doing "hand to hand combat" with the devil.
My response: This is not a problem. Believe his stories or not. It might be nothing more than "fish tales".
8. He publicly admitted on CathInfo to all his "Ghostbuster" style lay-exorcist activities, as covered in a local newspaper. At that point, he was banned here.
My response: There are certain things that lay-people can do, such as distribute holy medals, and encourage others to pray and use the sacramentals that the church has deemed worthy for our use.
9. These activities included "waiting up" for the devil, with a boom box and a deck of playing cards.
My response: Some of his stories may be exaggerated, which would explain some of the elements therein. He does have a sense of humor, which is often lost on his enemies.
10. His Sensus Catholicus (Catholic sense) seems to be broken or non-existent.
My response: I do not care to comment on this.
11. But this superstitious fascination with the devil or imprudent dabbling in things demonic happened YEARS AGO. But where did that take him today?
My response: That is between God and himself, and no one else.
12. Pablo doesn't attend Mass anymore, and hasn't for years -- even though he lives on the Boston, KY property itself.
My response: Pray for him, that he returns to the attendance of daily Mass. As for Sunday Masses, I cannot say he does not, or that he has not gone in years. This is mere guesswork and more rumor meant to cause harm to his reputation.
13. Apparently Pablo has a wife and children living somewhere, who he is no longer with. Why?
My response: This is also a matter best left out of our hands.
14. He has a reputation for bullying and harassing innocent Traditional Catholics, and has been banned from many SSPX chapels.
My response: Many of those who were supposedly bullied are the guilty ones, and I have seen this in person. They act like self-centered, greedy children with over-inflated egos. When two strong, opposing egos clash, stuff happens. Pablo could handle himself better in some of these cases, however. Such is the nature of human frailty. We rise and we fall.
15. Pablo doesn't hold back when his intended victim is a woman or elderly (or both!)
My response: This is not entirely true. He has spoken down to some women, and used words which may not be the best in a given situation. However, he does hold back often, depending on the circuмstances. One must not give into generalizations such as this.
16. He has harassed Mrs. Pfeiffer, Fr. Pfeiffer's mother, on several occasions. She has cast him out of the property -- or tried to -- several times.
My response: I have not seen any such harassment during my times on the property.
17. Pablo has found an Orthodox bishop with very dubious stories which don't check out or add up.
My response: That is a work in progress. Give it time, and do not rush to judgment.
18. He has a very nice house in Phoenix, AZ, which he apparently doesn't even live in. How does he afford the property taxes, even if it's paid off?
My response: I am beginning to understand the term “whited sepulcher Pharisees” more clearly with each complaint.
[1] Judge not, that you may not be judged, [2] For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why seest thou the mote that is in thy brother' s eye; and seest not the beam that is in thy own eye? [4] Or how sayest thou to thy brother: Let me cast the mote out of thy eye; and behold a beam is in thy own eye? [5] Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam in thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother' s eye.
19. He used to be a pipefitter "CathInfo". Do they pay so well that he can retire early?
My response: This is a non-issue, and it is being used to attack his character.
20. I will pass over the innuendo about his screen name "469". Is that "for 69" or "pro 69"? 69 is a vulgar slang expression. Of all the 3 numbers he could have chosen!
My response: Its part of his phone number.
21. The "fitter" part of his screen name could also bear an innuendo, especially when taken together with the first part.
My response: God help us.
22. NOTE: Hiding dirty things, or tributes to the devil, in plain sight is the modus operandi of Freemasons and bad guys all over the world.
My response: There are many signs of the demonic. The methods of the Pharisees are a prime example. Libel, slander and rumor are demonic.
23. Apparently there are lots of unnatural and preternatural incidents that have happened around Pablo.
My response: Rumor and hearsay.
24. Pablo has talked about witches in his neighborhood sending the cats to do unnatural things (like defecate on his roof -- cats don't naturally do this)
My response: See above.
25. "[Pablo] may leave objects that can cause spiritual trouble as happened to a friend of mine. She had to get rid of everything that had passed through Pablo's hands before things were ok." Another sign that Pablo is mixed up in some dark arts.
My response: See above.
26. Pablo has "big televisions in the rooms" at his house in Phoenix, AZ. This is the same house where Fr. Pfeiffer says Mass when he's in Phoenix. See #10.
My response: This has gone far enough.
27. Fr. Voigt, a good priest, recently left Fr. Pfeiffer's group partly because of Pablo.
My response: This is a complex situation, one that cannot be summed up so easily. I am in a terrible bind on this situation, as I am friends with both Father Voigt and Pablo. I hope that this unfortunate situation can be resolved. I pray for this daily.
There is much I know of this situation, and I feel that not all of it should ever be repeated, for it would do much harm to both parties. I pray, too, for Pablo's son, Santiago, who was unfortunately caught up in this battle between Father and Pablo.
28. Pablo has certainly not discouraged, but actively encouraged, Fr. Pfeiffer into an isolated cult mentality, sectarianism, and in-fighting with fellow Resistance priests.
29. Pablo has done various things calculated to harm the Resistance and start trouble, like posting the personal addresses (not the Mass center locations) of all the Resistance Mass center coordinators. And attacking Fr. Zendejas and Bishop Williamson.
30. Pablo has often exaggerated and caused confusion: For example, one time he posted "The only thing left [of the Pfeiffer ranch] is the mailbox."
My response: This list and its promulgation is a fine example of exaggerations and spreading confusion among the faithful, and this work ought to be condemned by both Father Pfeiffer and Father Voigt.
31. Pablo has successfully helped divide at least the American Resistance, and caused countless chaos and spiritual harm.
My response: It was more than just Pablo. What we have here is every example of the seven deadly sins, and it is not all on Pablo.
I have spoken to many coordinators, faithful, seminarians and priests. These rumors have caused so much damage, and it is sad, because these rumors are mostly exaggerated from the truth or falsified entirely.
32. Catholic doctrine/common sense dictate that one doesn't get involved with the devil, or... very bad things can happen.
My response: That is true. This is why this list was not a good idea, and why I needed to respond to it.
33. The Boston, KY seminary has emptied out and might close soon. Apparently the remaining seminarians recently begged Fr. Voigt to stay there more often, since things were better when he was around.
My response: The devil has worked his ways, and it should not fall entirely on Pablo. We all had a hand in this, and we all need to beg God for His forgiveness.
Pablo can be a hard-headed, machismo Mexican with a temper. That much is certain. The rumors, however, do not accurately depict the truth of the situation in Boston. We must, in these situations, remember to show, above all, charity.
[43] You have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thy enemy. [44] But I say to you, Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you:[45] That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven, who maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust.
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Nice attempt to whitewash this Pablo scandal, but 2 points in particular stand out as ridiculous:
My responses are in bold.
5. He has told us personally that he practices Omerta, which is normally associated with the Mafia.
My response: I will not deal with hearsay or rumors, and neither should anyone else.
What part of PABLO POSTED IT can't you understand? It's not hearsay or rumor when Pablo posts it with his own account! When you read something a person posts -- that's called FIRST HAND. Some people are stubbornly blind about things -- that's a big part of why the Resistance is in this mess.
Second post on this thread:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Fr-Pfeiffer-attempts-to-defuse-the-situation
I'm sorry, but this is very frustrating.
8. He publicly admitted on CathInfo to all his "Ghostbuster" style lay-exorcist activities, as covered in a local newspaper. At that point, he was banned here.
My response: There are certain things that lay-people can do, such as distribute holy medals, and encourage others to pray and use the sacramentals that the church has deemed worthy for our use.
This was also posted with pablo's own account. The article from the local Phoenix newspaper came to light, it was posted here, and Pablo owned up to all of it. It was quite scandalous, and went well beyond St. Benedict medals, holy water, and the St. Michael prayer.
It's not just wit and rhetoric to say he was offering himself out as a Ghostbuster. He was literally acting as a priest might -- offering his devil-fighting services to third parties. This is NOT something any sane Catholic would do. Catholic common sense is that we should not seek out the devil, dabble with him, or try to "fight him" out of some kind of misplaced zeal. Leave exorcism to the priests.
Especially troubling was how Pablo was waiting up at night, in a vigil, for the devil to manifest himself. That shows a superstitious, curious and/or occult-dabbling mindset. That's why I say his Sensus Catholicus is broken.
Your response is what countless Pfeiffer-fanatics responded back when I banned pablo. I had to ban quite a few others in his wake, because they defended pablo to the death (mostly for Fr. Pfeiffer's sake). I guess you can't force anyone to see the truth, once their mind is stubbornly made up about something.
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And I notice you pass over all the points, responding to them, but not really offering a rebuttal.
16. He has harassed Mrs. Pfeiffer, Fr. Pfeiffer's mother, on several occasions. She has cast him out of the property -- or tried to -- several times.
My response: I have not seen any such harassment during my times on the property.
Matthew's response:
That's great, but it doesn't prove it wrong. Others who were there witnessed it, and gave testimony to Pablo's shameful treatment of Fr. Pfeiffer's own mother.
I have to weigh several conflicting testimonies here.
You claim you didn't see anything, but you're also a continuing, committed fan of the group. So I have to conclude that you might be biased.
On the other hand, several other devout Catholics tell another story. And they don't have reason to lie. We're talking about people who were IN BOSTON, so they obviously aren't some kind of anti-Pfeiffer enemies, not disposed to give the group a chance. In fact, most of the evidence comes from those who were there, involved with the group for a length of time.
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12. Pablo doesn't attend Mass anymore, and hasn't for years -- even though he lives on the Boston, KY property itself.
My response: Pray for him, that he returns to the attendance of daily Mass. As for Sunday Masses, I cannot say he does not, or that he has not gone in years. This is mere guesswork and more rumor meant to cause harm to his reputation.
This is not rumor.
I have spoken to many coordinators, faithful, seminarians and priests. These rumors have caused so much damage, and it is sad, because these rumors are mostly exaggerated from the truth or falsified entirely.
Did you speak to coordinators by phone, email, or in person? I'm curious because Fr Pfeiffer has a very strict rule that NOBODY but him, Fr Hewko, or Pablo is allowed to contact coordinators. You might have violated his rule which would be very bad considering your position.
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Dear Real McCoy ... I have been contacted by my fellow coordinators, and I have met some in person. I did not reach out to them, but they reached out to me.
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They are libelous at best and scandalous at worst. Any past and present comments will be submitted to interested parties if any future litigation is pursued.
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Well we know what to expect from threats like these... nothing (as always).
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I pray, too, for Pablo's son, Santiago, who was unfortunately caught up in this battle between Father and Pablo.
Is this the same person who recently was shown here to be in the hospital dying?
I'm presuming that his hospitalization and this comment aren't related. But, just so you know, to the random person knowing nothing about Santiago except that he's in the hospital, this comment just doesn't sound good.
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I am headed back to the seminary to help them out more, as I have done on many occasions. I go because I know that, despite the personality conflicts and the many problems, that it is worth the suffering to see more traditional priests, and to encourage more vocations.
It is my desire to see these missions grow and flourish, such as the fine missions we have here in Texas. Matthew, I want your Mass site to continue growing, and your website to continue informing people about the graces we have available in the Mass and the Sacraments.
Please pray for the priests, seminarians and lay workers at the seminary in Boston. Pray especially for Pablo. Our Lord will not abandon us in our hour of need.
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Mod note: The comment was retracted by the author.
I talked yesterday to a person from Boston, KY who tells me that Santiago is not at the point of death, nor is he in danger of dying. And, if I understood this person correctly, he never was in danger of dying, though he was ill.
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I am headed back to the seminary to help them out more, as I have done on many occasions. I go because I know that, despite the personality conflicts and the many problems, that it is worth the suffering to see more traditional priests, and to encourage more vocations.
It is my desire to see these missions grow and flourish, such as the fine missions we have here in Texas. Matthew, I want your Mass site to continue growing, and your website to continue informing people about the graces we have available in the Mass and the Sacraments.
Please pray for the priests, seminarians and lay workers at the seminary in Boston. Pray especially for Pablo. Our Lord will not abandon us in our hour of need.
:pray: :pray: :pray:
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I haven't posted in a long time because I've been extraordinarily busy, between my dad being quite completely incapacitated, getting a house ready for sale, taking care of my family, and unfortunately finding myself back at work temporarily. I come to check Cathinfo every once in a while to be edified or to find some encouragement, and this time, I find this...
There is just one thing that I feel I must interject into this thread.
Fr. Pfeiffer had Holy Mass right in my dad's hospital room just a couple of weeks ago, and guess what? Pablo was there. So, to say he hasn't attended Mass is a falsehood. I refuse to participate anymore in this thread other than to interject this FACT, because I was a witness and was THERE when Pablo attended Mass.
:facepalm:
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I talked yesterday to a person from Boston, KY who tells me that Santiago is not at the point of death, nor is he in danger of dying. And, if I understood this person correctly, he never was in danger of dying, though he was ill.
What on earth is going on here?
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Fr. Pfeiffer had Holy Mass right in my dad's hospital room just a couple of weeks ago, and guess what? Pablo was there. So, to say he hasn't attended Mass is a falsehood. I refuse to participate anymore in this thread other than to interject this FACT, because I was a witness and was THERE when Pablo attended Mass.
:facepalm:
I appreciate that you are grateful for Fr. Pfeiffer saying Mass for your father. That is bound to evoke many feelings of admiration, gratitude, love...
No one said Fr. Pfeiffer is good-for-nothing.
There is a difference between being there in the room when Mass is said, and devoutly assisting.
There is also a difference between "being there" at a Mass said in a hospital room (what does a non-Catholic or lapsed Catholic do, leave? That would be a bit tacky) and regularly assisting at Mass every Sunday to fulfill one's obligation.
I believe you, but unfortunately (for you) I see no reason to dismiss the testimony of those who say Pablo doesn't attend Mass in Boston, KY.
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I know I said that I would not add anything else to this, but I am going to add one more thing.
I'm not speaking for Pablo, but keep this in mind:
NO ONE can look into someone else's conscience. What if he feels that his presence is a distraction and might cause someone to commit a sin during Mass? No one really knows why. Has anyone ever asked him? I haven't. Also, he knelt during the Mass in my dad's room. (not that it was something I was focusing on whatsoever, but I do remember it.) Who is anyone to say he was not participating? I'm not going to presume he wasn't and neither should anyone else.
So sad... All of us knew the devil was going to try to sabotage the resistance in any way he could. Why let him win? Keep your faith! There is a ton of wisdom that Father Bolduc left us in his last recorded sermon. I would advise that people here look it up and really listen to what he's saying. :pray:
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I spoke with probably the same person who has been visiting Pablo, and told me precisely the same thing. She is a devout prayerful woman, and I know she reads most of my many posts of Mass, Divine Office, saints, novenas, and other prayers for over a period of time. I am completely boring to people who are not praying consistently, as that is most of what I post. So I trust what she said to me.
Perhaps knowing that many were upset by his actions, Pablo wished to seem more sympathetic by having a very ill son, when the son was moderately ill. I do know the illness has been of long duration. And Santiago and Pablo still do need our prayers for many reasons.
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I guess all those implying that the son was not really sick are "eating crow" as he is now dead.
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The young man had the right to Catholics having genuine concern for his soul and well being. This was denied him in some cases due to suspicion of his Father and his associates.
This was clearly wrong, morally and as a matter of Christian charity.
One may gain merit from believing that another is mortally ill when told so, and then praying for their recovery or their eternity, but Heaven's opprobrium falls upon he who doubted and caused others to doubt, when that soul passed from this life due to that same illness.
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The whole Hernandez family requires our prayers and our sacrifices. This has no doubt been a difficult time, and their difficulties are far from over.
Santiago was a good young man, and he struggled to survive with every breath. He clung to life, and stayed as close to God as possible. He was given the sacraments, and offered his suffering for those who are in most need of mercy.
Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord.
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Good post!
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I am curious as to why this is being bumped? Is there more to add to what has already been said previously?
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I am curious as to why this is being bumped? Is there more to add to what has already been said previously?
Someone contacted me and wanted this information about Pablo. I figured once I found it, I should bump it in case anyone else is looking for it.
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Then you surely have not forgotten that we are all ashes and to ashes we shall all return.
You have taken a grave responsibility on your shoulders by posting such a long laundry list of serious accusations. I hope for your own sake that you have sufficient proof of each one of them.
If proven true though, you may want to set your brain to work on the following question : If Frs Hewko/Pfeiffer are really under the influence of this devil incarnate, where is that showing in their teachings, or if not, why not ? I am having a hard time understanding how someone who is under a spell by the devil can still preach what seems to me like excellent sermons.
I think this argument tends to exonerate me.
Exactly -- look at Fr. Pfeiffer's sermons. He slams fellow Traditional, Resistant priests by name, tells people to stay at home rather than go to Mass and receive Our Blessed Lord in Holy Communion, because the only priest available is Fr. Zendejas, Fr. Voigt, or another "enemy" of Fr. Pfeiffer.
He is thrilled to point his faithful followers to Fr. Tetherow, a convicted pedophile, because he knows they won't be going to Fr. Zendejas now.
And Fr. Pfeiffer opposes all the Resistant bishops God has sent us, because none of them like his decrepit seminary, or will associate with his group (with Pablo at the helm, and attacks on Resistant priests being the order of the day).
He has also slandered Fr. Voigt, as well as Fr. Zendejas, +Williamson, +Faure, and others. And he hasn't apologized for any of it.
Yes, by their fruits I judge them.
Fr. Pfeiffer has become very activist, ignoring the spiritual life, and his sermons have become bitter, angry, and sterile. Fr. Voigt testifies that Fr. Pfeiffer doesn't pray much anymore.
Don't ever forget: a person's rhetoric, oratorial skills, and intelligence are not instantly lost if they went into a state of mortal sin. Those natural virtues would still be with them: just look at the Jews! They are highly intelligent people. They could preach a mean sermon, especially with their people skills.
But it would be sterile. It wouldn't have the sweet unction of Christ, because it wouldn't be the fruits of prayer and meditation.
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I am curious as to why this is being bumped? Is there more to add to what has already been said previously?
Someone contacted me and wanted this information about Pablo. I figured once I found it, I should bump it in case anyone else is looking for it.
Shouldn't you be in Wimbledon and not here lurking?
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I am curious as to why this is being bumped? Is there more to add to what has already been said previously?
Someone contacted me and wanted this information about Pablo. I figured once I found it, I should bump it in case anyone else is looking for it.
pieces of this thread are not true. Caution is advised when reading the thread.
You mean like when you accused Matthew of slander for claiming that Pablo says to practice Omerta and then he threw the link at you silencing you? You that part was pretty untrue that you wrote. Got it...
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I am curious as to why this is being bumped? Is there more to add to what has already been said previously?
Someone contacted me and wanted this information about Pablo. I figured once I found it, I should bump it in case anyone else is looking for it.
pieces of this thread are not true. Caution is advised when reading the thread.
You mean like when you accused Matthew of slander for claiming that Pablo says to practice Omerta and then he threw the link at you silencing you? You that part was pretty untrue that you wrote. Got it...
Libel, not slander. Slander is spoken, libel is written. People make mistakes. I don't recall accusing Matthew of libel, though, on this one issue.
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I am curious as to why this is being bumped? Is there more to add to what has already been said previously?
Someone contacted me and wanted this information about Pablo. I figured once I found it, I should bump it in case anyone else is looking for it.
pieces of this thread are not true. Caution is advised when reading the thread.
You mean like when you accused Matthew of slander for claiming that Pablo says to practice Omerta and then he threw the link at you silencing you? You that part was pretty untrue that you wrote. Got it...
Libel, not slander. Slander is spoken, libel is written. People make mistakes. I don't recall accusing Matthew of libel, though, on this one issue.
This is from my old post...
From Matthew... He has told us personally that he practices Omerta, which is normally associated with the Mafia.
My response: I will not deal with hearsay or rumors, and neither should anyone else.
That is what I said about that. I stand corrected, but I didn't accuse Matthew of libel or slander.
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Manuel, you can't make generic "poison the well" statements. If there's something inaccurate, please address it specifically.
The original post has been modified and updated, and several response posts have been deleted.
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Manuel, you can't make generic "poison the well" statements. If there's something inaccurate, please address it specifically.
The original post has been modified and updated, and several response posts have been deleted.
I needed to make it clear that biases and incomplete information can distort the truth of any situation, and that it is best to seek verification of any presented information.
Pablo was accused of animal sacrifices, for one, in at least a few posts on this site. That is mainly inaccurate. While a dog was burned, it was not a sacrifice, nor was Pablo involved in that decision.
I did not seek to poison the well, but just to caution against forming a judgement against the seminary or Pablo based solely on the writing in this thread.
Take my post like the food warning labels. The food may be fine, but it is always best to take care.
This thread may contain trace amounts of Peanuts...