Author Topic: Pablo - Paul Hernandez - the Crisis in Kentucky (Read 36637 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #45 on:** October 02, 2015, 05:59:25 PM »

Quote from: Ann

They are libelous at best and scandalous at worst. Any past and present comments will be submitted to interested parties if any future litigation is pursued.

:roll-laugh1:

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #46 on:** October 02, 2015, 06:21:48 PM »

Well we know what to expect from threats like these... nothing (as always).

MaterDominici · « **Reply #47 on:** October 02, 2015, 06:29:16 PM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez

I pray, too, for Pablo's son, Santiago, who was unfortunately caught up in this battle between Father and Pablo.

Is this the same person who recently was shown here to be in the hospital dying?

I'm presuming that his hospitalization and this comment aren't related. But, just so you know, to the random person knowing nothing about Santiago except that he's in the hospital, this comment just doesn't sound good.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #48 on:** October 02, 2015, 06:52:46 PM »

I am headed back to the seminary to help them out more, as I have done on many occasions. I go because I know that, despite the personality conflicts and the many problems, that it is worth the suffering to see more traditional priests, and to encourage more vocations.

It is my desire to see these missions grow and flourish, such as the fine missions we have here in Texas. Matthew, I want your Mass site to continue growing, and your website to continue informing people about the graces we have available in the Mass and the Sacraments.

Please pray for the priests, seminarians and lay workers at the seminary in Boston. Pray especially for Pablo. Our Lord will not abandon us in our hour of need.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #49 on:** October 02, 2015, 08:39:23 PM »

Mod note: The comment was retracted by the author.

I talked yesterday to a person from Boston, KY who tells me that Santiago is not at the point of death, nor is he in danger of dying. And, if I understood this person correctly, he never was in danger of dying, though he was ill.

Franciscan Solitary · « **Reply #50 on:** October 02, 2015, 11:29:50 PM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez

I am headed back to the seminary to help them out more, as I have done on many occasions. I go because I know that, despite the personality conflicts and the many problems, that it is worth the suffering to see more traditional priests, and to encourage more vocations.

It is my desire to see these missions grow and flourish, such as the fine missions we have here in Texas. Matthew, I want your Mass site to continue growing, and your website to continue informing people about the graces we have available in the Mass and the Sacraments.

Please pray for the priests, seminarians and lay workers at the seminary in Boston. Pray especially for Pablo. Our Lord will not abandon us in our hour of need.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #51 on:** October 02, 2015, 11:52:26 PM »

I haven't posted in a long time because I've been extraordinarily busy, between my dad being quite completely incapacitated, getting a house ready for sale, taking care of my family, and unfortunately finding myself back at work temporarily. I come to check Cathinfo every once in a while to be edified or to find some encouragement, and this time, I find this...

There is just one thing that I feel I must interject into this thread.

Fr. Pfeiffer had Holy Mass right in my dad's hospital room just a couple of weeks ago, and guess what? Pablo was there. So, to say he hasn't attended Mass is a falsehood. I refuse to participate anymore in this thread other than to interject this FACT, because I was a witness and was THERE when Pablo attended Mass.

JPaul · « **Reply #52 on:** October 03, 2015, 09:07:23 AM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

I talked yesterday to a person from Boston, KY who tells me that Santiago is not at the point of death, nor is he in danger of dying. And, if I understood this person correctly, he never was in danger of dying, though he was ill.

What on earth is going on here?

Matthew · « **Reply #53 on:** October 03, 2015, 09:46:07 AM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Fr. Pfeiffer had Holy Mass right in my dad's hospital room just a couple of weeks ago, and guess what? Pablo was there. So, to say he hasn't attended Mass is a falsehood. I refuse to participate anymore in this thread other than to interject this FACT, because I was a witness and was THERE when Pablo attended Mass.

I appreciate that you are grateful for Fr. Pfeiffer saying Mass for your father. That is bound to evoke many feelings of admiration, gratitude, love...

No one said Fr. Pfeiffer is good-for-nothing.

There is a difference between being there in the room when Mass is said, and devoutly assisting.

There is also a difference between "being there" at a Mass said in a hospital room (what does a non-Catholic or lapsed Catholic do, leave? That would be a bit tacky) and regularly assisting at Mass every Sunday to fulfill one's obligation.

I believe you, but unfortunately (for you) I see no reason to dismiss the testimony of those who say Pablo doesn't attend Mass in Boston, KY.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #54 on:** October 03, 2015, 09:47:25 PM »

I know I said that I would not add anything else to this, but I am going to add one more thing.

I'm not speaking for Pablo, but keep this in mind:

NO ONE can look into someone else's conscience. What if he feels that his presence is a distraction and might cause someone to commit a sin during Mass? No one really knows why. Has anyone ever asked him? I haven't. Also, he knelt during the Mass in my dad's room. (not that it was something I was focusing on whatsoever, but I do remember it.) Who is anyone to say he was not participating? I'm not going to presume he wasn't and neither should anyone else.

So sad... All of us knew the devil was going to try to sabotage the resistance in any way he could. Why let him win? Keep your faith! There is a ton of wisdom that Father Bolduc left us in his last recorded sermon. I would advise that people here look it up and really listen to what he's saying.

MariaAngelaGrow · « **Reply #55 on:** October 05, 2015, 10:05:37 AM »

I spoke with probably the same person who has been visiting Pablo, and told me precisely the same thing. She is a devout prayerful woman, and I know she reads most of my many posts of Mass, Divine Office, saints, novenas, and other prayers for over a period of time. I am completely boring to people who are not praying consistently, as that is most of what I post. So I trust what she said to me.

Perhaps knowing that many were upset by his actions, Pablo wished to seem more sympathetic by having a very ill son, when the son was moderately ill. I do know the illness has been of long duration. And Santiago and Pablo still do need our prayers for many reasons.

antibostonken · « **Reply #56 on:** November 28, 2015, 07:59:24 AM »

I guess all those implying that the son was not really sick are "eating crow" as he is now dead.

JPaul · « **Reply #57 on:** November 28, 2015, 11:56:46 AM »

The young man had the right to Catholics having genuine concern for his soul and well being. This was denied him in some cases due to suspicion of his Father and his associates.
This was clearly wrong, morally and as a matter of Christian charity.
One may gain merit from believing that another is mortally ill when told so, and then praying for their recovery or their eternity, but Heaven's opprobrium falls upon he who doubted and caused others to doubt, when that soul passed from this life due to that same illness.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #58 on:** November 28, 2015, 02:01:47 PM »

The whole Hernandez family requires our prayers and our sacrifices. This has no doubt been a difficult time, and their difficulties are far from over.

Santiago was a good young man, and he struggled to survive with every breath. He clung to life, and stayed as close to God as possible. He was given the sacraments, and offered his suffering for those who are in most need of mercy.

Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #59 on:** March 31, 2016, 12:10:42 PM »

Good post!