Author Topic: Pablo - Paul Hernandez - the Crisis in Kentucky (Read 36488 times)

wallflower · « **Reply #15 on:** September 27, 2015, 07:51:08 PM »

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"420" is a pretty much part of pop culture. Unless you were lucky enough to grow up super sheltered in the 80s/90s, you heard this joke.

Count me lucky :P My husband had to tell me about this just a couple of years ago.

To be fair, in young adulthood I knew a fair share of pot smokers at work/around town. Still never heard it.

confederate catholic · « **Reply #16 on:** September 27, 2015, 08:34:11 PM »

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Let's just say that I'll never be one of those people who wears ignorance like a badge of honor. I don't mind filling my brain with information at all times

Amen, this is the attitude of anyone who loves Our Lord

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Matthew · « **Reply #17 on:** September 27, 2015, 11:20:11 PM »

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Let's just say that I'll never be one of those people who wears ignorance like a badge of honor. I don't mind filling my brain with information at all times

Amen, this is the attitude of anyone who loves Our Lord

..or of a proud rooster, in which case all this worldly knowledge is like foolishness in God's eyes.

Maybe so.

But I believe God gave me my brain for a reason: to be used. At any rate, I can't seem to find the off switch. I never just sit there and "exist". I'm always thinking ferociously about something, whatever it is I'm doing. And I also have a hard time forgetting things.

Nobody · « **Reply #18 on:** September 28, 2015, 12:24:28 AM »

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Let's just say that I'll never be one of those people who wears ignorance like a badge of honor. I don't mind filling my brain with information at all times

Amen, this is the attitude of anyone who loves Our Lord

..or of a proud rooster, in which case all this worldly knowledge is like foolishness in God's eyes.

Maybe so.

But I believe God gave me my brain for a reason: to be used. At any rate, I can't seem to find the off switch. I never just sit there and "exist". I'm always thinking ferociously about something, whatever it is I'm doing. And I also have a hard time forgetting things.

Then you surely have not forgotten that we are all ashes and to ashes we shall all return.

You have taken a grave responsibility on your shoulders by posting such a long laundry list of serious accusations. I hope for your own sake that you have sufficient proof of each one of them.

If proven true though, you may want to set your brain to work on the following question : If Frs Hewko/Pfeiffer are really under the influence of this devil incarnate, where is that showing in their teachings, or if not, why not ? I am having a hard time understanding how someone who is under a spell by the devil can still preach what seems to me like excellent sermons.

MariaAngelaGrow · « **Reply #19 on:** September 28, 2015, 01:31:25 AM »

I can completely relate to what you are saying Matthew. Somehow my mother never told me to stop when I was always asking questions as a child. I once put my fingers in an old fashioned bar soap grinder in a lady's room, and started to grind my fingers to find out how it worked. I was about 4, and thankfully, I only cut my fingers; I did not lose them. I later proceeded to see what sliding down the steeper hill on the school playground would be like and broke my arm in two places. One of my earliest sins was lying to my mother when I was seven. I never lied to her for other reasons, but I so much wanted to read articles in the encyclopedias we had and they were a bit above my reading level, so I started making up fake school assignments. Poor Mama! She raised me with only grandma to help her and had to work 3 jobs, about 100 hours a week to raise me, or she would have gladly read me everything I wanted. She finally figured out this was too much work for my grade level and I confessed. I always wanted to know and learn everything that I could, at least until high school, when I realized higher math was beyond me. I just could not get calculus and trigonometry. But I still try to learn a lot of things, and before fibromyalgia, I used be be considered a walking encyclopedia and dictionary by those who knew me. My ability to learn and remember may be greatly below Matthew's, but I never stopped trying. While I focus more on Catholic topics now, I still see what is happening in the world and research health, history and so on. God gave us minds for a reason. They are to be subordinated to God, but they were given to be used. Not that everyone has to be as avid, not to mention foolhardy, as I have been.

rum · « **Reply #20 on:** September 28, 2015, 08:05:32 AM »

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6. In his many Internet posts, one could discern he had a boastful and proud bearing. His posts were filled with drama and braggadocio. He seeks fame and power.

I noticed this too on ABLF 1.0, but I naively thought he was being tongue-in-cheek. Before he was banned from ABLF I thought he was a relatively harmless eccentric. I had no idea he was actually taken seriously by important figures in the trad movement. I posted this photoshop mockup spoofing his penchant to start ridiculous threads instructing trads how to be manly:

He got a kick out it, which suggested to me that he didn't take himself all that seriously, but maybe I was wrong.

It's astonishing to me that such a goofball could rise to a position of influence in trad-dom.

Stubborn · « **Reply #21 on:** September 28, 2015, 09:24:43 AM »

I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?

There is definitely something wrong there.

Matthew · « **Reply #22 on:** September 28, 2015, 09:46:12 AM »

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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?

There is definitely something wrong there.

Actually I have heard of Trads leaving green scapulars around people they are trying to convert -- those on their deathbed, fallen away Catholics, and so forth.

I even heard about one zealous Trad visiting the local Masonic lodge and leaving green scapulars whenever they weren't looking.

The real question is, who could leave something secretly at the house of a TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING for any kind of non-evil purpose? We're already on God's side. So if someone's trying to convert us, or do something we wouldn't approve, it MUST be evil.

Stubborn · « **Reply #23 on:** September 28, 2015, 09:51:38 AM »

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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?

There is definitely something wrong there.

Actually I have heard of Trads leaving green scapulars around people they are trying to convert -- those on their deathbed, fallen away Catholics, and so forth.

I even heard about one zealous Trad visiting the local Masonic lodge and leaving green scapulars whenever they weren't looking.

The real question is, who could leave something secretly at the house of a TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING for any kind of non-evil purpose? We're already on God's side. So if someone's trying to convert us, or do something we wouldn't approve, it MUST be evil.

Yes, the leaving of a rosary or scapular behind, usually someone at the home knows about it, and is from good intentions, but just the opposite with pablo. To do such a thing as he does shows malicious intent, or intent to bring evil or curse the house. That is diabolical.

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #24 on:** September 28, 2015, 10:20:06 AM »

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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?

There is definitely something wrong there.

Actually I have heard of Trads leaving green scapulars around people they are trying to convert -- those on their deathbed, fallen away Catholics, and so forth.

I even heard about one zealous Trad visiting the local Masonic lodge and leaving green scapulars whenever they weren't looking.

The real question is, who could leave something secretly at the house of a TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC IN GOOD STANDING for any kind of non-evil purpose? We're already on God's side. So if someone's trying to convert us, or do something we wouldn't approve, it MUST be evil.

Yes, the leaving of a rosary or scapular behind, usually someone at the home knows about it, and is from good intentions, but just the opposite with pablo. To do such a thing as he does shows malicious intent, or intent to bring evil or curse the house. That is diabolical.

How could a curse or witchcraft be attached to a sacramental item? Would God allow such a thing? Leaving rosaries or scapulars behind could be an act of charity, hoping they will be a reminder to someone in the home to use them more frequently. I have seen it attested by many that Pablo is uncouth and intimidating, a svengali, pushy, and worse. I think such testimony from so many (those in Kentucky especially) probably has basis in fact. Is it really necessary to make this a witch-hunt too?

Matthew · « **Reply #25 on:** September 28, 2015, 10:31:02 AM »

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How could a curse or witchcraft be attached to a sacramental item? Would God allow such a thing? Leaving rosaries or scapulars behind could be an act of charity, hoping they will be a reminder to someone in the home to use them more frequently. I have seen it attested by many that Pablo is uncouth and intimidating, a svengali, pushy, and worse. I think such testimony from so many (those in Kentucky especially) probably has basis in fact. Is it really necessary to make this a witch-hunt too?

1. Who said he's leaving sacramentals? I doubt he's hiding rosaries or scapulars in the homes of Trad Catholics, if these reports of witchcraft are true. Probably other objects.

2. No, it wasn't theoretically necessary that Pablo be into witchcraft. But if he IS practicing the dark arts, then yes, it is quite necessary. Just like the saying, "You're not paranoid if someone IS trying to kill you." Likewise, it's not a proverbial witch hunt if you're exposing a real case of witchcraft.

Let's face it -- who else am I accusing of witchcraft? No one. Do I really have a tendency to cry wolf about witches? When in the past have I (and others here) been wrong about this? How can you say this is a "witch hunt" as if it's always a witch hunt every time you investigate or expose a case of witchcraft? That's ridiculous.

These reports have recently surfaced, and a lot of serious stuff is going on in Boston, KY. "Violations of the moral law", Fr. Voigt leaving after an argument that escalated to "more than words", the seminary emptying out, etc. And let's not forget the uncovering "from nowhere" of an Orthodox con man pretending to be a bishop who might still be Orthodox, an imposter, a plant, a Freemason, etc.

I don't think this can all be attributed to a "pablo the m exican" as I originally knew him (quirky, eccentric, but harmless). All these reports aside, we already knew he had a fascination with the devil over 12 years ago. Who knows where such activity could lead? We know as Catholics that such activity is bad news. Why? Think about that one. If there's no concrete, real danger in dabbling in superstition and the devil, then how can we claim it's dangerous? What concrete evil happens to that foolhardy person who ignores the dangers and plays with that Ouija board, has that seance, or tries to talk/struggle with the devil unnecessarily? What if a foolish person goes ahead and cultivates an unhealthy curiosity and fascination with the devil -- will anything bad come of it? Nothing? Then how can we say such behavior is dangerous and to be avoided? See my point?

If the danger in such activities is real -- if the Catholic Faith is correct in its doctrine -- then some REAL HARM/EVIL might have come to Pablo by following this path. It's only logical and realistic, like water flowing downhill.

Pilar · « **Reply #26 on:** September 28, 2015, 02:50:42 PM »

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I'd like to know why he leaves things at people's houses if not for dubious purposes. That is scary imo. I mean, would anyone here visit some non-trad and without saying anything, leave behind a scapular on purpose?

There is definitely something wrong there.

I am defending no one, but for the sake of accuracy, there is very good reason to leave a scapular behind without telling the person you are trying to help. That is especially true of the Green Scapular that may be left under a mattress, in a bureau drawer, under a lamp or anywhere else that won't be disturbed. Countless conversions happen this way. It is not a spell or magic, it is a constant prayer to Our Lady for that person's conversion.
I don't know how it happens, but there is always someone like Pablo around. I have known Fr. Hewko for decades and love him dearly, but he is not the best judge of character. He always seems to err, when he does err, on the side of charity. He is a very good priest and a real innocent. It seems those are the kind that cannot see the harm in a Pablo type who seems so anxious to help and is in need of conversion.

Matthew · « **Reply #27 on:** September 28, 2015, 10:12:10 PM »

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This web-site sure reminds me of the National Enquirer.

And here you are, reading the filthy gossip rag that is CathInfo.

As they say, "BUSTED!"

MariaAngelaGrow · « **Reply #28 on:** September 29, 2015, 01:11:40 AM »

H E Bishop Williamson knows most of what I have related and more. However, he does not see himself as a bishop with jurisdiction. He has admonished Fr Pfeiffer to send Pablo away, but he can not enforce this. So he is sending people to Fr. Zendejas.I imagine his disassociation from Boston is his statement of position.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #29 on:** September 29, 2015, 10:24:37 AM »

MA Grow:

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H E Bishop Williamson knows most of what I have related and more. However, he does not see himself as a bishop with jurisdiction. He has admonished Fr Pfeiffer to send Pablo away, but he can not enforce this. So he is sending people to Fr. Zendejas.I imagine his disassociation from Boston is his statement of position.

Yes, true. He has admonished Fr. Pfeiffer to send Pablo packing. That is true! But Father seems to have the 'Frank Sinatra' complex. He does it his way. Meanwhile, he expresses his total lack of confidence in the bishop, and expects that same bishop to come to Boston in order to ordain his poor formed "seminarians."
I got a call from a woman yesterday, who, thank God, has seen the light. Although she and her large family attend a "resistance" chapel under Fr. Pfeiffer's 'pastorship,' she is steering her oldest son, who may have a vocation, away from Pfeifferville. We've been praying a lot for this family. It may be that some of our prayers are now being answered.