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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2014, 01:30:02 PM »
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  • In case anyone hasn't read this yet -- this will give you a better idea about Pablo.

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/
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    « Reply #16 on: November 15, 2014, 01:43:56 PM »
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  • Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
    !!!!!!!!

    "hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics.   There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.  

    Someone, please help me understand.  
    How does this man have authority?  Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
    Why does Father P permit him to assist him?  
    Does he travel with Father P?
    Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

    I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  


    I know he does often travel with Fr. Pfeiffer, or at least to the same events. Fr. Pfeiffer certainly knows that Pablo claims to exercise. Here's the link again to the Phoenix New Times article about Paul Hernandez' (aka pablo the Mexican) exploits as a lay exorcist:
    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2001-02-08/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez/full/

    As to "Why does Father P permit him to assist him?": That's been the great mystery to many people for a number of years now.


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    « Reply #17 on: November 15, 2014, 02:09:28 PM »
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    Pablo has responded with a video clip --

    http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/dedicated-to-those-people/

    A blue-eyed Jesus (?) addressing the Pharisees.

    As a side rant, I hate it when they go so far as to give Our Lord blue eyes and/or "dirty dish blond" hair. He was a real man who walked the earth from 0 - 33 AD. He was ethnically Jєωιѕн. Jєωs don't have blue eyes, or light hair for that matter.

    He isn't Santa Claus, or a fairy tale that can and must be "interpreted" by each culture.

    Also, Our Lord was the perfect man. Blue eyes is actually a defect -- insufficient melanin in the eye, which happens to signify insufficient melanin in the skin as well. Those with blue eyes get sunburn more easily, and can't absorb as much UV light without getting a headache.

    I don't know what movie that was from, but let's just say the actor that portrayed Our Blessed Lord was no Jim Caviezel!


    We have no way to know with absolute certainty what color Our Lord's eyes were. There are many depictions of Him with blue eyes in literature and art, including ancient icons. Also, Our Lord had non-Jєωιѕн ancestors as well. But aside from that, the grey and blue eye color has long been endemic in all white peoples. From dna studies, scientists have concluded that blue eyes have been around for about 6,000 to 10,000 years. So, Adam or Eve probably had them. Blue eyes have never been considered, historically,  a fault, but a trait that was prized. It still is today. These facts hold for blonde hair as well.

    As an aside, I am pretty sure that there are and have been countless men with all shades of blonde hair who are/were very manly.

    The Description of Publius Lentullus

    The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus.

       "There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jєωιѕн Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men"

    3. Other Data.

    The Problem of the life passion of St. C? us, and the external appearance of Jesus possessed but minor interest for the Church Fathers, although the Catholic Acts of the Holy Apostles ascribe to him an olive complexion, a beautiful beard, and flashing eyes. Further details are first found in a letter to the Emperor Theophilus attributed to John of Damascus (in MPG, xcv. 349), which speaks of the brows which grew together, the beautiful eyes, the prominent nose, the curling hair, the look of health, the black beard, the wheat-colored complexion, and the long fingers, a picture which almost coincides with a hand-book on painting from Mt. Athos not earlier than the sixteenth century. In like manner, Nicephorus Callistus, who introduced his description of the picture of Christ (MPG, cxlv. 748) with the words, "as we have received it from the ancients," was impressed with the healthful appearance, with the stature, the brown hair which was not very thick but somewhat curling, the black brows which were not fully arched, the sea-blue eyes shading into brown, the beautiful glance, the prominent nose, but brown beard of moderate length, and the long hair which had not been cut since childhood, the neck slightly bent, and the olive and somewhat ruddy complexion of the oval face. A slight divergence from both these accounts is shown by the so-called letter of Lentulus, the ostensible predecessor of Pontius Pilate, who is said to have prepared a report to the Roman Senate concerning Jesus and containing a description of him. According to this docuмent Christ possessed a tall and handsome figure, a countenance which inspired reverence and awakened love and fear together, dark, shining, curling hair, parted in the center in Nazarene fashion and flowing over the shoulders, an open and serene forehead, a face without wrinkle or blemish and rendered more beautiful by its delicate ruddiness, a perfect nose and mouth, a full red beard of the same color as the hair and worn in two points and piercing eyes of a grayish-blue.


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    « Reply #18 on: November 15, 2014, 02:20:50 PM »
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  • I am new here. Someone told me to get on here and read about Pablo. I attend the mess center in Boston, KY and I have somewhat to say to everyone.
    I have kept much to myself for fear of detraction or some other sin. But, as I read here and at ALF, I see that many, many, if not all are having problems and questions regarding Pablo.
    I wish I could tell you everything I know, but prudence tells me not to.
    I will say,
    1) Please pray for Pablo. I have every reason to believe he is involved in something demonic and I believe he has the priest's, if not, under a spell, than under fear of consequences.
      a) Because it is a public sin, and because of what has occurred recently, I think it is safe to say, publicly, that Pablo does not attend Mass and he has done other things that are not only sinful, but criminal. I believe he has opened the door of his heart to the workings of the devil; to the devil that intends to destroy the Resistance from the inside out.
    2)Things are very sad and stressful in Boston right now. But I do believe that Pablo is on his way out. Things are happening.
    3) Please pray that Fr. P does the right thing. He himself said in a sermon, that "God sometimes puts us in situations to test us, not revealing to us the right thing to do until afterwards. And then, if we chose unwisely, He hardens out hearts. God alone decides to whom and when and why He softens and hardens hearts" (Not verbatim) Please pray that God does not harden Fr. P's heart. At this point in time, as can be observed, Fr. is turning a deaf ear and blind eyes to the actions of Pablo. But, no one, save God, knows what is going on in his mind and heart. Please pray he receives the grace to do the right thing.
    4) Please pray that the scales fall from Fr. Hewko's eyes, for he is not the most observant individual I have ever known. He continues to say, "Pablo is harmless", which makes me wonder just how blind he can be, with things happening right under his nose.
    5)I don't believe that Fr. P is completely guilt of neglect. Pablo does many things without permission, and against the permission of Fr. P. Sometimes Fr finds out about it, sometimes not.
    Just pray, pray, pray and do some penance. Some devils cannot be dispelled by prayer alone.

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    « Reply #19 on: November 15, 2014, 02:46:18 PM »
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  • Thank you Matthew, Brianhope and Bostonfog for helping me understand better.

    Bostonfog, you are very charitable in your repeated requests for prayer.

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    Just pray, pray, pray and do some penance. Some devils cannot be dispelled by prayer alone.


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    « Reply #20 on: November 15, 2014, 02:53:12 PM »
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    « Reply #21 on: November 15, 2014, 02:53:24 PM »
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  • BostonFog, that was an excellent post!

    First-hand information, Catholic attitude, understanding the situation, calls for prayer...

    You really brought up a good point about hardening of the heart.

    When things blow up like this, people tend to "dig in". Let us pray that Fr. Pfeiffer receives the grace to do the right thing -- for the good of the Church and the Resistance.
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    « Reply #22 on: November 15, 2014, 03:11:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: holysoulsacademy
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    Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent.


    Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

    As much as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" could have been so much better without the Jєωs' meddling, it's still head and shoulders above any other "Christ" film I've ever heard about or seen pictures of.




    Albeit falling along stereotypical typefacing, this 1977 version was done quite well as it chronicles the life of our Lord.  I believe this is the movie that had Olivia Hussy playing Our Lady and her performance was the best I have seen. I particularly like the cinematic aspects, attention to camera shots, and editing, they really did a good job of bringing you into the film.






    Olivia Hussey's portayal was an affront to The Blessed Virgin in at least two ways. Firstly, she portrayed Her in agony during childbirth, contradicting the Churches teaching, esp. in regards to Our Lady's perpetual virginity. Secondly, at the foot of the cross, after Our Lord is taken down, She is shown as a madwoman, insane with grief and bereft of Her senses, also contradicting Church teaching. Whereas the Magdalene, who was, in fact, totally bereft of her senses is portrayed as very calm.

    There are good things about the film, but I don't think Hussey's performance was one of them. Franco Zefferelli was not constrained by truth in this production.


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    « Reply #23 on: November 15, 2014, 03:29:03 PM »
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  • Not to exonerate Fr. P--it was quite foolish to let what is "Pablo" fester and get so big.  But at this point, I don't doubt that fear of criminal/violent retaliation plays a part in Father's decisions.  I was already thinking this.  BostonFog's post makes me think this even more.  It's as evident as anything to me that Pablo is a nutcase of the highest order.

    I suspect that the "prudence" dictating BostonFog's holding back a little is more fear of Pablo than anything else, and smartly so.

    The man is off the hook and off his rocker--he is incorrigible and uncontrollable and nothing but a liability.

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    « Reply #24 on: November 15, 2014, 05:00:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pilar
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    Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent.


    Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

    As much as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" could have been so much better without the Jєωs' meddling, it's still head and shoulders above any other "Christ" film I've ever heard about or seen pictures of.




    Albeit falling along stereotypical typefacing, this 1977 version was done quite well as it chronicles the life of our Lord.  I believe this is the movie that had Olivia Hussy playing Our Lady and her performance was the best I have seen. I particularly like the cinematic aspects, attention to camera shots, and editing, they really did a good job of bringing you into the film.






    Olivia Hussey's portayal was an affront to The Blessed Virgin in at least two ways. Firstly, she portrayed Her in agony during childbirth, contradicting the Churches teaching, esp. in regards to Our Lady's perpetual virginity. Secondly, at the foot of the cross, after Our Lord is taken down, She is shown as a madwoman, insane with grief and bereft of Her senses, also contradicting Church teaching. Whereas the Magdalene, who was, in fact, totally bereft of her senses is portrayed as very calm.

    There are good things about the film, but I don't think Hussey's performance was one of them. Franco Zefferelli was not constrained by truth in this production.


    Yes, they call it creative license.  
    Just like in the Passion, they chose an aging woman as the Blessed Mother.
    And Gibson was also constrained by accusations of anti-semitism if he would proceed with the implications of Deicide.

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    « Reply #25 on: November 15, 2014, 06:03:59 PM »
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  • Fr. P. offered Mass after which he gave a conference in Toronto (Mississauga) Ontario Canada this afternoon.  
    He is presently offering Mass In St. Catharines.

    Has anyone heard what was said at his conference this afternoon?  I'm sure questions were asked about Pablo.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    « Reply #26 on: November 15, 2014, 06:29:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: holysoulsacademy
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    Jesus of Nazareth a made-for-television film around 1977. Robert Powell plays Jesus. It was quite a landmark when made. I try to watch the whole thing every Lent.


    Yeah, I think I heard of that one.

    As much as Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" could have been so much better without the Jєωs' meddling, it's still head and shoulders above any other "Christ" film I've ever heard about or seen pictures of.




    Albeit falling along stereotypical typefacing, this 1977 version was done quite well as it chronicles the life of our Lord.  I believe this is the movie that had Olivia Hussy playing Our Lady and her performance was the best I have seen. I particularly like the cinematic aspects, attention to camera shots, and editing, they really did a good job of bringing you into the film.






    Olivia Hussey's portayal was an affront to The Blessed Virgin in at least two ways. Firstly, she portrayed Her in agony during childbirth, contradicting the Churches teaching, esp. in regards to Our Lady's perpetual virginity. Secondly, at the foot of the cross, after Our Lord is taken down, She is shown as a madwoman, insane with grief and bereft of Her senses, also contradicting Church teaching. Whereas the Magdalene, who was, in fact, totally bereft of her senses is portrayed as very calm.

    There are good things about the film, but I don't think Hussey's performance was one of them. Franco Zefferelli was not constrained by truth in this production.


    Yes, they call it creative license.  
    Just like in the Passion, they chose an aging woman as the Blessed Mother.
    And Gibson was also constrained by accusations of anti-semitism if he would proceed with the implications of Deicide.


    It is beyond artistic license when it diminishes dogma. Not sure what you are saying regarding the age of Maia Morgenstern. She was about the age Our Lady would have been, she was 42 and pregnant. In art, She has always been shown as mature at the time of Our Lord's death.

    Sorry to have veered away from the main topic, regarding Pablo, the two main priests involved with him need to get rid of him. He is bad for them and their work of saving souls. I believe they were safer with the Society by far. They are babes in the woods. If they fear criminal action, they should get a restraining order.

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    « Reply #27 on: November 15, 2014, 10:33:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
    !!!!!!!!

    "hate", "hatred", "evil", "wicked" - just a few of the emotions and adjectives that a <self appointed?> representative of the good Father applies to his fellow traditional Catholics.   There is major dysfunction crying from the mountaintops in that letter.  

    Someone, please help me understand.  
    How does this man have authority?  Or does he not have authority, but presumes it?
    Why does Father P permit him to assist him?  
    Does he travel with Father P?
    Do the clergy know that he claims to exorcise?

    I'm perplexed as to why someone this volatile is permitted to represent or assist any traditional Catholic clergy, Resistance or not.  


    The priest permitting it, spoke of Cardinal Ratzinger's involvement in Satanic child abuse/murder, in a videotaped sermon, without a shred of evidence.  That shows a profound lack of good sense, prudence and justice.

    There is nothing perplexing about it.  Birds of a feather.

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    « Reply #28 on: November 15, 2014, 11:33:19 PM »
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  • Oh no, the neoSSPX will have a field day with this info.

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    « Reply #29 on: November 15, 2014, 11:46:52 PM »
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  • Quote from: pbax
    Oh no, the neoSSPX will have a field day with this info.


    Actually--and I cannot blame them--the SSPX is staying as far away as possible from these latest controversies internal to the Resistance. So are most sedevacantists with who I have spoken. It goes back to an old Roman proverb: Never interfere with your enemy when he is self-destructing.