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Owner of Schismatic Orthodox website - Ambrose Moran!
« on: January 23, 2016, 11:17:19 AM »
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  • UPDATE: There is a thread containing links to ALL the threads about so-called Bishop Ambrose Moran:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-Mr-Ambrose-Moran-the-Orthodox



    Owner of Schismatic Orthodox Website Confirmed to Be Ambrose Moran
    Jan 21, 2016

    In a post titled “Ambrose Moran:  Is He Really a Catholic Bishop?“, I wrote the following in regards to a schismatic Orthodox website that is no longer available:
     
    “The picture below (ignore the yellow and orange highlighted areas) is a screenshot that I took on October 5, 2015 of a website under the url ‘www.theuoac.com’.  On October 14, 2015 I called Bryan Jordan, website registrant contact as indicated in the second screenshot below, to find out why the website contained information that was contrary to Bishop Ambrose Moran’s claim of being a Catholic bishop.  A lady, who worked at the website hosting company called “VistaWorks“, answered the phone and told me that Bryan Jordan worked for VistaWorks.  He was not the owner of the website.  She also told me that someone had called that same morning and the website was taken down.  At that time, I did not know who owned the website, but I had a suspicion that it was owned by Bishop Ambrose Moran himself.  This suspicion was based on the information contained on the website and the registrant mailing address, Buena Vista, Colorado.  Bishop Ambrose Moran lives in the area.  A couple of weeks later I found out, from a very reliable source, that Bishop Ambrose Moran did indeed own the website and that he took it down.“
     
    That Ambrose Moran (real name “William Edward Moran” – see pg. 28 of Fr. Ortiz’s study) did indeed own the website has been confirmed by the good investigation work of Fr. Juan Ortiz.  Here is the address that was indicated on the screenshot of the website mentioned above:
     
    Fr. Ortiz found the owner of P.O. Box 5215 on a Colorado voters list website (not run by the State of Colorado) along with the rest of the address; it is none other than William Edward Moran!

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    Owner of Schismatic Orthodox website - Ambrose Moran!
    « Reply #1 on: January 23, 2016, 01:35:10 PM »
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    Ambrose Moran (real name “William Edward Moran” – see pg. 28 of Fr. Ortiz’s study)

    If his real name is William Edward, isn't that what we ought to be calling him, you know, to avoid the confusion of using pseudonyms?  (Especially "Archbishop" and "Metropolitan")
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    Owner of Schismatic Orthodox website - Ambrose Moran!
    « Reply #2 on: January 23, 2016, 10:08:50 PM »
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  • Isn't ManuelChavez late getting to this thread with his post about misunderstandings, confusion, lack of evidence, everybody being partially to blame, and about how we should simply ask Ambrose to get the real facts?

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    « Reply #3 on: January 24, 2016, 12:34:24 AM »
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    Isn't ManuelChavez late getting to this thread with his post about misunderstandings, confusion, lack of evidence, everybody being partially to blame, and about how we should simply ask Ambrose to get the real facts?

    When Manuel Chavez shows up, we ought to teach him to use the REAL name, William Edward, and to drop the "Archbishop" and "Metropolitan" nonsense.
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    Owner of Schismatic Orthodox website - Ambrose Moran!
    « Reply #4 on: January 24, 2016, 12:42:15 AM »
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  • Of all the Ambrose nonsense, I *think* the most overlooked (least criticized) element was the whole "Archbishop" thing.

    I mean, you can have bishops consecrated in this state of necessity and we Trads are familiar with that. But once you go above a simple bishop, you're talking hierarchy and jurisdiction -- something NO Trad has (aside from supplied jurisdiction, of course).

    So the red lights start flashing when a "Trad" bishop claims to be an archbishop, a cardinal, or a pope. This should be common sense.

    I know, the SSPX had an Archbishop founder and Fr. Pfeiffer would REALLY love to re-create the SSPX. Nevertheless, it still doesn't work that way. Sorry, Fr. Pfeiffer. History only rhymes, it doesn't literally repeat.

    Fr. Pfeiffer got all freaked out when Ambrose said he considered the (Boston) seminary canonically erected? What was he expecting? As soon as he heard "Archbishop" he should have known Ambrose would try to claim some kind of jurisdiction over the seminary. Because Ambrose was already claiming jurisdiction by his self-appointed title of Archbishop. An archbishop isn't just a super-strong bishop. It's something fundamentally different than any of the Trad bishops alive today.
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