Author Topic: Outstanding Sermon on Sedevacantism by Fr. Pfeiffer (Read 48258 times)

curioustrad · « **Reply #85 on:** May 06, 2014, 05:37:52 PM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

The SSPX has valid priests. The FSSP does not. All of their priests today have been ordained bu Novus Ordo Bishops. They are NOT the same as the SSPX, who have validly ordained priests, for the most part, except the Novus Ordo priests that have joined them and have not been reordained.

SSPX priests are forbidden to say mass in the Novus Ordo churches.

Armchair theology in action ?

curioustrad · « **Reply #86 on:** May 06, 2014, 05:39:24 PM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

Quote from: eddiearent
So, Father denies that the notorious public heretic losses all jurisdiction. My question to Father is if you are TRUELY "una cuм," why don't you really become one with the local heretical "bishop" and princess "pope" and submit to him like Bishop Fellay wants to? Because you want you're cardboard pope and eat him too.

Father, do you really believe you are one with Francis'
*Doctrines
*Disciplines
*Liturgies
*Morals

How can you be one with Francis when you don't recognize his canon law, his bad shepherd saints in Roncalli and Wojtyla, etc.

The true answer is that WE ARE NOT ONE WITH UNA cuм these heretics. We are rationally of a different religion. At this point, we can pray for their conversion as we should. But standing in front of the altar of God and claiming that we are of the same faith as these apostates is the true lie coming from hell, Father.

:applause: :applause:

Perfectly said. The resistence priests speak more against the sedevacantists than about the Novus Ordo. They must keep their people in line, and prevent them from coming to the logical conclusion that the sedevacantist position is the only valid conclusion to tthe crisis. Many are coming to that conclusion, and will go to the sede masses as well as the resistence. Less funds will result.
If the resistence has the same beliefs as the Neo SSPX, what are they accomplishing?

What are the sedes accomplishing ? Garage chapels - cowboy priests - pseudo theologians ?

Mabel · « **Reply #87 on:** May 06, 2014, 06:55:03 PM »

Quote from: curioustrad

Quote from: Emerentiana
The SSPX has valid priests. The FSSP does not. All of their priests today have been ordained bu Novus Ordo Bishops. They are NOT the same as the SSPX, who have validly ordained priests, for the most part, except the Novus Ordo priests that have joined them and have not been reordained.

SSPX priests are forbidden to say mass in the Novus Ordo churches.

Armchair theology in action ?

Emerentiana may have given you the Reader's Digest version of the situation but she isn't making any claims of being a theologian.

Can you tell me how one becomes a legitimate theologian and who is a living theologian that you would recommend we approach?

Ambrose · « **Reply #88 on:** May 06, 2014, 07:40:26 PM »

Quote from: curioustrad

Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: eddiearent
So, Father denies that the notorious public heretic losses all jurisdiction. My question to Father is if you are TRUELY "una cuм," why don't you really become one with the local heretical "bishop" and princess "pope" and submit to him like Bishop Fellay wants to? Because you want you're cardboard pope and eat him too.

Father, do you really believe you are one with Francis'
*Doctrines
*Disciplines
*Liturgies
*Morals

How can you be one with Francis when you don't recognize his canon law, his bad shepherd saints in Roncalli and Wojtyla, etc.

The true answer is that WE ARE NOT ONE WITH UNA cuм these heretics. We are rationally of a different religion. At this point, we can pray for their conversion as we should. But standing in front of the altar of God and claiming that we are of the same faith as these apostates is the true lie coming from hell, Father.

:applause: :applause:

Perfectly said. The resistence priests speak more against the sedevacantists than about the Novus Ordo. They must keep their people in line, and prevent them from coming to the logical conclusion that the sedevacantist position is the only valid conclusion to tthe crisis. Many are coming to that conclusion, and will go to the sede masses as well as the resistence. Less funds will result.
If the resistence has the same beliefs as the Neo SSPX, what are they accomplishing?

What are the sedes accomplishing ? Garage chapels - cowboy priests - pseudo theologians ?

It's strange that you have that image? Are you familiar with CMRI? I have witnessed:

A mix of big beautiful churches and smaller chapels.

60 mass centers in the United States alone, with new chapels opening constantly.

Churches and chapels run by CMRI or who work with CMRI all across the world, Australia, Philippines, New Zealand, South America, Russia, Europe, etc.

2 seminaries, a major and a minor.

3 different orders of nuns, operating numerous grade schools and high schools.

Priests who sacrifice themselves for God by traveling all over to say Mass, hear confessions and visit the sick.

I could go on....

Emitte Lucem Tuam · « **Reply #89 on:** May 06, 2014, 07:47:01 PM »

Quote from: curioustrad

Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: eddiearent
So, Father denies that the notorious public heretic losses all jurisdiction. My question to Father is if you are TRUELY "una cuм," why don't you really become one with the local heretical "bishop" and princess "pope" and submit to him like Bishop Fellay wants to? Because you want you're cardboard pope and eat him too.

Father, do you really believe you are one with Francis'
*Doctrines
*Disciplines
*Liturgies
*Morals

How can you be one with Francis when you don't recognize his canon law, his bad shepherd saints in Roncalli and Wojtyla, etc.

The true answer is that WE ARE NOT ONE WITH UNA cuм these heretics. We are rationally of a different religion. At this point, we can pray for their conversion as we should. But standing in front of the altar of God and claiming that we are of the same faith as these apostates is the true lie coming from hell, Father.

:applause: :applause:

Perfectly said. The resistence priests speak more against the sedevacantists than about the Novus Ordo. They must keep their people in line, and prevent them from coming to the logical conclusion that the sedevacantist position is the only valid conclusion to tthe crisis. Many are coming to that conclusion, and will go to the sede masses as well as the resistence. Less funds will result.
If the resistence has the same beliefs as the Neo SSPX, what are they accomplishing?

What are the sedes accomplishing ? Garage chapels - cowboy priests - pseudo theologians ?

As a "sede" ie: A CATHOLIC, I would kneel in the mud while Holy Mass is offered by a true CATHOLIC priest on the hood of a jeep rather than commit sacrilege by attending a "mass" in union with a heretic in a bejeweled and golden gilt chapel:

So much for your "garage chapel" theory/slam.