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we find in this movement the same convictions and invocation of the intellectual infidelities which have plagued the traditional movement since the white smoke turned into black on that fateful evening in 1958 when Satan took control of the Vatican.

Very interesting development.  

ETA: Sorry for the mis-spelling in the title.  Maybe someone (Matthew?) can fix it?

What's the development?

Who owns 'http://ourladysresistance.org/'

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The group has severed ties with Fr. Pfeiffer and gone sedevacantist.

I've been pretty busy the last week, so maybe it's not "news" in the sense that everyone already knows?  It was news to me, that's for sure.

I really try not to keep up with the 'characters' who try to make themselves a part of the Resistance. Are they priests, or simply more uneducated laymen?

That's what I've been trying to figure out.

IIRC, it is the St. Mary's Resistance.  I seem to remember reading on these forums that it was at least alleged that a priest was (partially?) involved in the writing of some of the material, but I really don't know.  And I don't live in St Mary's so I don't know if the site represents the group down there as such, or maybe just a handful?  I really don't.  Those who do should post to clarify!

Always a problem if Fr. P and the 'resistance' is saying different things to different audiences. Hopefully. this 'loose' movement does not find itself in the 'recognise and resist' hole that the SSPX found so comfortable since its inception. We have to be thankful that individual Catholics are alert to the dangers and do not carried away again with personalities and the false authority of self-appointed messiahs.  

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They have a noteworthy quote from Timothy Cardinal Manning there:


    Cardinal Manning explains the denial of the supremacy of the Pope as a denial of the Incarnation in this way:

     "The office of the Vicar of Jesus Christ contains, in fullness, the Divine prerogatives of the Church:  for as much as being the special, representative of the Divine Head, He bears all his communicable powers in the government of the Church on earth solely and alone.  The other bishops and pastors, who are united with him, and act in subordination to him, cannot act without him;  but he may act alone, possessing a plenitude of power in himself. And further, the endowments of the body are the prerogatives of the head;  and, therefore, the endowments which descend from the Divine Head of the Church on the whole mystical body are centered on the head of that body upon earth;  for as much as he stands in the place of the Incarnate Word.  As the minister and witness of the Kingdom of God among men.  Now, it is against that person eminently and emphatically, as I said before, that the spirit of evil and of falsehood directs it's assault;  for if the head of the  body be smitten the body itself must die."




This reminds me, a friend recently told me that there is a schedule on the Vatican website that lists upcoming projects, and one of them coming up in March or April of this year promises to take on the question of splitting up the powers of the Pope.   He said that Francis doesn't think that the pope should have all this power (such as Cardinal Manning describes above) and so, a Consilium of appointees will engage in a discussion to find ways of delegating various powers to other clerics in the Vatican, so there isn't so much authority in just one man anymore.  

This has already taken place under JPII, insofar as the pope is no longer present in the monthly meeting with all the dicastries, when the various bishops report to the pope of news and situations in their particular office.  Now, the pope stays in another room, and the Vatican Secretary of State runs the meeting, then he makes a report that he submits to the pope later.  This puts a lot of power in the hands of the Secretary of State because he can change the order of facts, or he can emphasize certain aspects or he can even neglect to mention certain details.  All of that presumes he would not be outright lying, that is.  


Sound like fun?

Oh, BTW, my friend also thinks that this pope could be the one who is martyred, or, that is, at least forcibly dies, as it were.  I told him he should be careful talking like that because if it ever really happens, he might be hearing a loud knock on the door when the CIA or the FBI show up to ask one or twenty questions.  

My reason for questioning whether Pope Francis could ever be "martyred" is, he seems to have an aversion to the principle that suffering is meritorious.  He seems to prefer the idea that penance is evil and pain is evil and suffering is evil.  So how could he have the fundamental outlook and disposition upon which martyrdom is predicated, from the very beginning?  

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Better get used to it.

As I've said repeatedly on this forum.  The Resistance is always going to suffer from this splitting off over one objection or another.  It's in the nature of the people and personalities who have gathered to disagree and nitpick over things.

Leading The Resistance is going to be like herding cats.

Yes it will suffer as long as it lives in contradiction. Eventually some come to see this and cannot reconcile their consciences to it. Wessex has it right again,

We have to be thankful that individual Catholics are alert to the dangers and do not carried away again with personalities and the false authority of self-appointed messiahs

They are not sedevacantists.  They say so:

True Pope in Portugal?

"In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved." - This is known to be a small part of the third secret of Fatima. It implies that the dogma of the Faith will not be preserved in other places. Living in the time we live in now we can safely say the dogma of the Faith is not preserved ANYWHERE. On April 10, 2010 abortion became legal in Portugal. Does this suggest the preservation of the Catholic Faith? On May 17, 2013 the Portugal parliament approved gαys and lesbians adopting children. Is this a sign of the preservation of the Catholic Faith? . Since June 5, 2010, the country became the eighth in the world to recognize same-sex marriage. Is this a sign of the preservation of the Catholic dogma? Clearly, the promise for Portugal
is completely spiritual, not temporal.

Our Lady is no liar. So what is the explanation to this seeming contradiction? What could it mean?

"In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved." Our Impression is that these words are for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. Those words are telling us where the Catholic Pope, who diligently preserves the Catholic dogmas, is being kept and nourished as the Apocalypse tells us. Yes, in Portugal.

"And he stood upon the sand of the sea." So ends the 12th chapter of the Apocalypse. Is Portugal's western end not completely along the ocean? Could Satan be limited to the sands of Portugal, unable to penetrate the Divine protection of what's left of the Catholic Church despite perhaps knowing where it is?

The Apocalypse must be fulfilled!

It is clear there is no APOSTASY IN THE CHURCH. Those words are an impossible situation yet we have used it before out of ignorance. What exists today is the APOSTATE CHURCH. APOSTASY IN THE CHURCH is not possible. The Catholic Church is pure and holy and will never defile herself with the world. "During the lapse of centuries, the mystical Spouse of Christ has never been contaminated, nor can she ever in the future be contaminated, as Cyprian bears witness: 'The Bride of Christ cannot be made false to her Spouse: she is incorrupt and modest. She knows but one dwelling, she guards the sanctity of the nuptial chamber chastely and modestly.'" - - Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos.  She can never become Apostate; since she is always preserved. In Rome today we see an Apostate ("Pope Francis")and an  adulterating church. What we had in the summer of 2012 was the desire of Bishop Fellay to have a closer relationship with the beast he admits recognizing as the Church despite it's Apostate qualities. The SSPX has been having "dialogue" with these Apostates from it's beginning! Have we been fighting for the Catholic Faith or have we been feeling good about ourselves for standing up with a group of people for a cause, being ignorant of the truth?

So are we Sedevacantists? No, we believe the Church has her Pope according to the words of holy scripture in the book of the Apocalypse cited above. Could we be wrong? Yes. We are not eschatologists. However, we do frequent holy scripture and find these verses of the Apocalypse fit with the words of Our Lady of Fatima and the time we are living in like pieces of a puzzle fit one into the other. Could there be another explanation, yes, we are open to that. God can solve this Apostasy in a million different ways. However,the words of the Gospel of Saint Matthew tell us: "But John stayed him, saying: I ought to be baptized by you, and cometh you to me?  And Jesus answering, said to him: "Suffer it to be so now. For so it becomes us to fulfill all justice. Then he suffered him." Some scriptures have yet to be fulfilled. The Apocalypse being unfulfilled. Hence, certain things need be; including the desolation of the Catholic Church in the "wilderness".