So my remarks are redundant are they ? Well I think they need repeating over and over until something is done , until the situation is addressed by those who caused it and rectify it. You say it is something that should not be forgotten and yet that is exactly what you are doing by telling me and others to move on to other issues. This is impossible to do when the district it its endeavor to raise money for its new church in St, Marys Kansas has embarked on a plan almost identical to the one they used in Phoenix just a bit more polished .As we see here in just one small example.
Windowmakers Guild
100 donors at $10,000 to $24,000
($167 to $400 monthly)
Help purchase the beautiful stained-glass windows which will bring the catechism of the church to life.
Recommended for young singles with established jobs and couples with grown children
Recognition:
-Receive a special commemorative Windowmakers Guild item
-A Mass for your intentions offered on the Immaculata’s altar for 30 days
-Have name displayed in special recognition in the Immaculata
That bears repeating I think
"beautiful stained-glass windows which will bring the catechism of the church to life."
What about bringing the Catechism to life in OUR church Lunatic ?
$167 to $400 per month? For young singles with “established” jobs and couples with grown children? Does the SSPX think these two groups of people are likely to have $10,000 to $24,000 to donate in one year’s time? I’m not sure what planet they’re on or what was in their drink while coming up with this sum!
I do not know of anybody in either category well off enough to make such a donation. The young people making large sums are surely paying off college loans, and the couples with adult children are easing onto a fixed income or are still working full-time to pay off the mortgage and probably helping out the adult children who'd otherwise not be married and having children. Young adults working at jobs that don’t require post high school education are unlikely to live on their own, much less be able to donate $10 to $24 K. Recent empty nesters are unlikely not to be helping their adult kids. If they’re single in the US, they’re paying for their medical insurance until age 27!
I’m 60, a “spinster!”🧵 working 60+ hours a week, and just making ends meet in an established job.
$167 week would mean I’d be sleeping in the chapel with the lovely windows.
The people most likely to be able to make large donations are those who came into adulthood from right after WWII through about 1971 or 1972. If you graduated from college during the recessions of the 70s or 80s, you’re likely making substantially less in 2019 than those just a little before or after. Those who came of age in the mid 1990s to early 2000s are the young adults, the infamous millennials. After that came the housing crisis which, despite what government officials say about availability of jobs, those of this generation are forced to work multiple low-paying jobs or work at year’s long unpaid internships by day and earn what they can at night.
When I think of the regular Mass goers at my old chapel, I come up with not one young working single with a secure, well-paying job. Most were living at home while going to school and working for minimum wage or a little above. Many of these stopped coming to Mass after finishing high school. Two couples with grown children come to mind as potential donors. They both had two children apiece having come late to tradition, and were from long-time wealthy families in the area. Both were in their early 70s and retired.
There was a similar program at the chapel for a massive capital improvement project. People made pledges in the hundreds of thousands, but when seven years went by with only one repair made, the money stopped flowing. Answers were demanded and not given. Where did the money go? God knows. The priory cut back to Sunday Masses only, then one Sunday Mass from three, no more HDO Masses, no more First Fridays or Saturdays, Retreats were cut by a third despite there being more priests, then the priests limited sick calls and last rites to official members. People voted with their pocketbooks and then with their feet. The chapel sold half its land and is a shadow of its former self. It’s populated by Indult types, those who sometimes like the old-fashioned Mass, either from early childhood or as a novelty. I’m not judging these people, for we’re all at different stages on our way, hopefully, to Heaven. There’s no more sense of a Catholic community. You go to Mass with your family, maybe have coffee and a roll with your family, and you leave. Those who come alone are left alone, even when trying to be friendly and getting to know others. Most of the people don’t want to get involved. Example, there used to be a very large and active Rosary group. Now, there’s nothing! Same thing for the Soc. of Christ the King...no longer exists. Those available and with the ability to lead are deceased or too old. The middle aged and young with families are working long hours to exist. They’re now the working class or working poor, the latter especially if they have many children. Formerly, the majority of the families were solidly middle, upper middle, and even well-to-do. The demographics of the area has changed radically over the last 20 years, not only financially, but ethnically and racially. Catholics are more likely to be Spanish or Filipino than White. The surrounding neighborhood is Spanish, Filipino, Jamaican, and to the north, Muslim. Whites drive in for Mass and drive out. Few neighborhood Catholics attend. In fact, they are definitely unwanted. Many chapel people cannot distinguish between Spanish and Filipino and presume everyone is illegal and on welfare. Not exactly conducive to building tradition! Those who welcome them become victims of gossip, detraction, slander, and worse.
The building looks dumpy, the work that was done is already falling apart. There’s cracked masonry, broken slate on the stairs, mildew on the north facing side, and the rug is unraveling, creating a fall hazard for elderly or handicapped. My mother who, if she goes to Mass, attends the novus ordo, agreed once to try The TLM. When she saw the broken slate and unsteady handrail, she told me to take her home. I notified the priory on Monday, was promised a call from a coordinator which never came. I took a picture and mailed it to the priory with a letter to the prior, but received no reply. By then, I’d already stopped attending due to other more serious issues.
My gut tells me that there was something spiritually amiss way back at the beginning of the SSPX in the United States, maybe other places as well. Why does every US chapel suffer from the same problems? Lack of financial transparency and cliques? (Cliques are called factions in Scripture.)
Does anyone care to comment upon why or where those two sins gained entry? (Please, no names of persons, places unless it is widely known to the trad. public.)