Author Topic: Our Lady of Sorrows, Phoenix AZ (Read 10898 times)

Marlelar · « **on:** October 03, 2015, 12:16:56 AM »

I just noticed on their website that Our Lady of Sorrows calls itself a South Phoenix Catholic Community.

Funny, I thought we were a TRADITIONAL Catholic Church. I've only seen NO parishes refer to themselves as a "Catholic Community", never traditional churches.

It also says: "Our Lady of Sorrows is a Catholic community that offers a complete life centered around the Latin Mass and the traditions of the Faith."

I think "traditions OF the faith" is different from "THE traditional faith", which is actually what we do, well we used to anyway. :cry:

link

ilpadrino · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2015, 05:34:32 AM »

Do not be surprised by the actions and words used in connection to the Phoenix Church. It's a "smile for the camera" operation, and the "community" mentioned in the description got ample representation on screen. It should be noticed that only 2 of the 5 priests stationed there were used for speaking purposes(the 2 youngest ones), and only 1 other for "stock footage" while offering Mass. To be sure, the building is very nice, but do not over-look the den of vipers that lies hidden in the threshold.

Stubborn · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2015, 05:55:38 AM »

Thank you for this post Marlelar as it certainly does sound just like NO speak.

This is a good example of 99% of the sermons at my chapel over the last three years or so. It's not like what they are saying is wrong, but what they are saying and the way they say it is perfectly acceptable to all NOers every where. All but the most tepid of condemnations of the NO have all but vanished.

It's as if they are trying to fool NOers into joining or something, I don't know how to explain it exactly but they are going about this in a way that demonstrates their true desire is for union with the conciliar church.

hugeman · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2015, 10:07:16 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Thank you for this post Marlelar as it certainly does sound just like NO speak.

This is a good example of 99% of the sermons at my chapel over the last three years or so. It's not like what they are saying is wrong, but what they are saying and the way they say it is perfectly acceptable to all NOers every where. All but the most tepid of condemnations of the NO have all but vanished.

It's as if they are trying to fool NOers into joining or something, I don't know how to explain it exactly but they are going about this in a way that demonstrates their true desire is for union with the conciliar church.

It's all part of the re-branding program. the whole aim is to trick N.O.'s catholics (little c) into thinking the SSPX is their place (which it, now, really is); while at the same time holding onto the Roman Catholics (aka traditionalists), making them think the SSPX is their place. the SSPX now has just what the Archbishop observed that the New Church had: a false religion, a false worship. false sacraments-- only the appearances of Catholicism.

buddy · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2015, 06:37:50 PM »

I live one mile away from the chapel and no longer attend.

The reason for they are being so appealing to the public is that they have put themselves into a $5 million hole that they are trying desperately get themselves out of. They started building when they had just over a half million promised but in cash. They justified it by saying the codes were about to change which would've made the cost prohibitive (as if it wasn't already). It reminded me of Luke 11:35.

Approximately half of the congregation that was attending in Sept 2012 when they started the new building either left or were expelled from the chapel.