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Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2019, 03:34:14 PM »
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  • Now if we can return to the original subject

    I learned today after first saturday Mass that last week some Priests quietly left the dining hall when Bishop Olmsted arrived and either went to their rooms or in the case of at least two went to the retreat chapel I have no idea which Priests did what but it does show us that not all the clergy of the SSPX are sheep  Or wolves in sheeps clothing  
    This is good news. I know of a few are still solid and good. 

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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #46 on: May 04, 2019, 07:05:24 PM »
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  • That is good to hear.  :pray:


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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #47 on: May 06, 2019, 01:28:20 AM »
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  • Source of the info is from Fr. Kenneth Walker's mother.  Fr. Walker was never buried in Phoenix but his body was given to Mom, sister of Kathleen.

    Why is it Hun? that you wish to call the episode bizarre, accusations?  Why do I get a feeling  that you are trying to blow the info away?  Do you have a truer story?  Let's here it.

    Kathleen Plumb is the Aunt of Fr. Kenneth Walker.  Do you not think that sisters communicate after a son/nephew has died?  Kathleen Plumb does not wish to have people like yourself to harm a traditional newspaper.  She is to smart for you Hun!  She too has been through death and pain in her family.

    I have a birds view of this issue of Fr. Walker, and you a Hun's view.  As for Fr. Terre, he was beaten to a pulp as one might say.  Both his hands were wrapped so much, could he say Mass, no.  His head so beaten, that he could not figure math and he left this area.  Where he is I do not know.

    We here in Phoenix, know of this subject and we know of at least 2 other new order priests over the years that had mysterious deaths.  This is not news, this is not just here, it  has happened to other priest, like Fr. Kutz.

    We here on this forum go beyond propaganda newspapers.  

    IMO, I see you Hun, as a troll.
    Dear songbird:

    I cant' help but wonder about of your state of mind and intention.

    First bizarre thing was trying to connect Fr. Walker death to the bishop visit at OLOS Phoenix.
    Second even more bizarre thing was from you to accuse FSSP of Fr. Walker's assassination by 11 shots what would be a criminal case even today and should be investigated by law enforcement authorities.

    When I asked for supporting information you never gave one.
    You posted once: "Source: The Four Marks newspaper, editor Kathleen Plumb Box 58, Ballantine, MT 59006 www.FourMarks.com"
    Later you posted: "Source of the info is form Fr. Kenneth Walker's mother."
    So which one?

    I contacted directly Kathleen Plum, editor of The Four Marks newspaper and on May 2, 2019 she replied to me as follows:
    "Cathinfo is a blog, and blogs are only as good as the rules they use for their comments. It is my experience that cathinfo is particularly disreputable. It is no surprise if they may give my name and my paper as the source, and try to smear me. ButThe Four Marks is obviously not the source of the statement below."
    In my last comment I wrote you that one of you is lying. And that's not good.

    Finally, I want to disclose that I disagree with FSSP.

    (As a side note: After you were corrected several times, would you learn the pastor's correct name as Father Terra?)

    You say: "We here in Phoenix, know of this subject ..." 
    BTW, I've been living in Phoenix for long and I know more than you think but this is not the subject.

    You say: "IMO, I see you Hun, as a troll."
    Dear songbird. I don't want to label you anyway because it's done by your actions, however you shouldn't post on Cathinfo.

    This was my last comment on this issue.
    "It's not enough to do good; it is necessary to fight evil." Saint Augustine

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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #48 on: May 06, 2019, 12:36:41 PM »
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  • No more replies.  I just thought you might like some truth.  There was no intention on my side to smear a traditional newspaper, and that is very understood in my posts.  I have very high regards for Kathleen Plumb, but there are doubts to Hun's intentions.

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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #49 on: May 06, 2019, 09:18:41 PM »
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  • Well, Hun, Birds of a feather stick together.  Kathleen and I had a nice chat, like girls do.  Kathleen is such a wise lady, she says, oh, I think I know this person.  Oh, he likes to answer his own letters.  So, in this case, Hun like to answer his own posts.  How clever!

    Well, Hun, sure is nice knowing people.  And there's nothing like the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  For those wo think the info about Fr. Kenneth Walker with 11 shots is probable, fine and for those who want to follow the AZ Repugnent fine.

    I just know the truth and I do think that it is to make note of.  Besides, FSSP is of the dioceses and we know what to expect of them, Marxism.  It sure is good to be in the know, to know your foe. Tweet, Tweet.


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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #50 on: May 07, 2019, 12:11:22 AM »
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  • Kathleen is such a wise lady, ...

    Kathleen the "wise lady" e-mailed:

    "It is my experience that cathinfo is particularly disreputable."

    "Since your reference is cathinfo, which I know to be at the very least irresponsible  ..."
    "It's not enough to do good; it is necessary to fight evil." Saint Augustine

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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #51 on: May 07, 2019, 12:18:01 AM »
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  • I have very high regards for Kathleen Plumb, ...

    Kathleen Plumb, editor of The Four Marks e-mailed: "The Four Marks is obviously not the source ..."
    "It's not enough to do good; it is necessary to fight evil." Saint Augustine

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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #52 on: May 07, 2019, 02:39:49 AM »
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  • Well, Hun, Birds of a feather stick together.  Kathleen and I had a nice chat, like girls do.  Kathleen is such a wise lady, she says, oh, I think I know this person.  Oh, he likes to answer his own letters.  So, in this case, Hun like to answer his own posts.  How clever!

    Well, Hun, sure is nice knowing people.  And there's nothing like the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  For those wo think the info about Fr. Kenneth Walker with 11 shots is probable, fine and for those who want to follow the AZ Repugnent fine.

    I just know the truth and I do think that it is to make note of.  Besides, FSSP is of the dioceses and we know what to expect of them, Marxism.  It sure is good to be in the know, to know your foe. Tweet, Tweet.
    Songbird, Are you saying that the FSSP arranged for Fr Kenneth Walker to be assassinated. How many shots were inflicted is not the major question. But whether or not you are accusing FSSP or not?  
    Or is just a matter of poor expression, and now you're upset at being challenged. You certainly need to be challenged over your statement that FSSP had Father shot. This is made worse by your saying that

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    Besides, FSSP is of the dioceses and we know what to expect of them, Marxism. 
    You really need to be more careful as to how you express yourself.


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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #53 on: May 07, 2019, 09:03:03 AM »
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  • Kathleen the "wise lady" e-mailed:

    "It is my experience that cathinfo is particularly disreputable."

    "Since your reference is cathinfo, which I know to be at the very least irresponsible  ..."

    Why do you emphasize the above information? It doesn't seem relevant, if the lady in question actually wrote it. It's only one person on Cath Info who is making the accusation, so why condemn the whole forum? I looked up the Four Marks website, and it appears to be sedevacantist. Some sedevacantists have a huge problem with Cath Info.

    That being said, I don't believe that the FSSP had Fr. Walker shot. It doesn't seem plausible. The forum member Songbird says that Fr. Walker's mother believes this, but no proof is given at all.

    I do recall that Fr. Walker was shot multiple times, and the official story seemed odd. I followed the story closely at the time, and the reported shooter, Gary Moran, was in a wheelchair when he made his first court appearance after his arrest. I couldn't figure out how he managed to overpower two priests. 

    It would be good if Songbird could give more evidence, but none has actually been given so far. Therefore, it's easy to dismiss. 

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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #54 on: May 07, 2019, 09:51:46 AM »
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  • Perhaps, there are still some at OLS who remember many years ago when Father Finnegan was the pastor there.  (That was before he left and started his own independent chapel in Phoenix.)  The son of the chapel's secretary had mental problems and led the police on a long wild police chase that ended up in the parking lot of OLS.  The young man went into the priory and got the 22 rifle of an assistant priest.  When he came back outside the authorities shot him dead.

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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #55 on: May 08, 2019, 09:16:25 AM »
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  • 2019.  

    2019? ;)
    We hear about it regularly.  In fact, we had an entire several hour session ("Adult Catechism") about the errors of Vatican II just last weekend.  They even posted follow up information on it in the bulletin. 


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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #56 on: May 09, 2019, 07:11:28 AM »
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  • They have 5:45am daily Mass?  That is cool. 
    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

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    Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
    « Reply #57 on: May 09, 2019, 07:27:45 AM »
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  • As Catholics we are to spread the gospel of Jesus.   Even to bishops.  We can be charitable without watering down our faith.  

    I thank God for the SSPX for making my faith stronger.  Yes, adult catechism and the St Ignatius Silent retreat really has helped me with my faith.

    And maybe the SSPX Priest retreat helped Bishop Olmsted. 





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