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Offline apollo

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Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2019, 07:11:19 PM »
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  • The children, here in Saint Marys, think the SSPX was founded by St. Pius X.
    And Pope Pius X named it himself, "Society of SAINT Pius X". 


    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #16 on: June 08, 2019, 09:30:26 PM »
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  • St. Pope Pius X as the Order's patron is appropriate but Bp. Fellay betrayed what this Saint stood for.




    While surrounded by the Church's enemies, St. Pope Pius X courageously stood his ground to defend her.



    It's likely his premature death was by poison from a German, freemasonic spy who acted as his Jesuit medical aide.


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #17 on: June 09, 2019, 07:13:00 AM »
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  • It's likely his premature death was by poison from a German, freemasonic spy who acted as his Jesuit medical aide.
    Any proof of this?
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #18 on: June 09, 2019, 03:29:47 PM »
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  • Any proof of this?

    Thanks for the question QVD.

    Conclusive research proving that St. Pope Pius X was murdered doesn't appear to exist... yet?
    But here's some evidence extracted from related publications at the time.


    The magazine La Critique du Liberalisme [The Critique of Liberalism] published an article about the death of St Pius X. The author sustains the thesis that St. Pius X was murdered on the order of Masonry. He affirms that St. Pius X caught a simple cold, but suddenly and inexplicably that cold would cause his death. One morning when he awakened, he could no longer speak, which was not proportional to that cold; he tried to write in order to communicate something, but also found himself unable to write. Soon afterward he died.

     The author also tells about a young, brilliant naval officer in Prussia who became a Jesuit. After being ordained, he became a nurse and was named to take care of the Pope during that cold. On that final night of the life of St. Pius X, he was closely attending the Pope. After the Pope died, the Jesuit returned to Prussia, left the Order, and returned to a brilliant career as a naval officer. During the war he became a submarine commander.


    The author affirms that St. Pius X was killed on the order of the German Masonry, and therefore, would be a martyr. I repeat the thesis of this article without having formed my own opinion on it.

     In his memoirs Cardinal Merry del Val confirms that St. Pius X could not speak or write, and he adds: “No one will ever know what happened that night.” It is a mysterious phrase.


    TIA Link Honoring St. Pope Pius X

    Top 37 Most Successful WWI German U-Boat Commanders


    Assassination makes sense, considering that the German Lodges were notorious for putting out "hit' contracts on Catholic leaders.
    Ecuador's Catholic President, Gabriel Garcia Moreno's blatant murder in 1875 is one example:

    Consider too, that for the ʝʊdɛօ-masonics, St. Pope Pius X had to go.
    He would have definitely interfered with the 5-year destruction of Europe's Holy Roman Empire.

    (Note; Jєω-wiki says St. Pius X died of failing health from a heart attack and melancholy :jester:)

    I included a list of German U-Boat Commanders because these men's military accomplishments are well docuмented.  
    No doubt, a German Jesuit spy turned naval commander would have been an "over-achiever".

    Perhaps our Saint's assassin is in those files?

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #19 on: June 09, 2019, 04:08:43 PM »
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  • Thanks for the question QVD.

    Conclusive research proving that St. Pope Pius X was murdered doesn't appear to exist... yet?
    But here's some evidence extracted from related publications at the time.


    The magazine La Critique du Liberalisme [The Critique of Liberalism] published an article about the death of St Pius X. The author sustains the thesis that St. Pius X was murdered on the order of Masonry. He affirms that St. Pius X caught a simple cold, but suddenly and inexplicably that cold would cause his death. One morning when he awakened, he could no longer speak, which was not proportional to that cold; he tried to write in order to communicate something, but also found himself unable to write. Soon afterward he died.

     The author also tells about a young, brilliant naval officer in Prussia who became a Jesuit. After being ordained, he became a nurse and was named to take care of the Pope during that cold. On that final night of the life of St. Pius X, he was closely attending the Pope. After the Pope died, the Jesuit returned to Prussia, left the Order, and returned to a brilliant career as a naval officer. During the war he became a submarine commander.


    The author affirms that St. Pius X was killed on the order of the German Masonry, and therefore, would be a martyr. I repeat the thesis of this article without having formed my own opinion on it.

     In his memoirs Cardinal Merry del Val confirms that St. Pius X could not speak or write, and he adds: “No one will ever know what happened that night.” It is a mysterious phrase.


    TIA Link Honoring St. Pope Pius X

    Top 37 Most Successful WWI German U-Boat Commanders


    Assassination makes sense, considering that the German Lodges were notorious for putting out "hit' contracts on Catholic leaders.
    Ecuador's Catholic President, Gabriel Garcia Moreno's blatant murder in 1875 is one example:

    Consider too, that for the ʝʊdɛօ-masonics, St. Pope Pius X had to go.
    He would have definitely interfered with the 5-year destruction of Europe's Holy Roman Empire.

    (Note; Jєω-wiki says St. Pius X died of failing health from a heart attack and melancholy :jester:)

    I included a list of German U-Boat Commanders because these men's military accomplishments are well docuмented.  
    No doubt, a German Jesuit spy turned naval commander would have been an "over-achiever".

    Perhaps our Saint's assassin is in those files?
    Very interesting, I will keep an open mind on this. Thanks!
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #20 on: June 09, 2019, 11:34:09 PM »
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  • Fr. Pfeiffer has said he has met third generation Trad youngsters at St. Mary's who do not even know who +Abp. LeFevbre is.

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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #21 on: June 10, 2019, 01:50:18 PM »
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  • Fr. Pfeiffer has said he has met third generation Trad youngsters at St. Mary's who do not even know who +Abp. LeFevbre [sic] is.

    So what? Is there reason to think that the pious archbishop would have wanted the situation to be otherwise?*

    Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (to do him the courtesy of spelling his name correctly) was plainly a man who would have regarded the posthumous bestowal upon him of celebrity status as morally inappropriate, if not repellent. As his epitaph declares, his life's aim was to pass on what he had been bequeathed—namely, the Faith, whole and entire—no more, no less. While he would have looked forward to receiving the prayerful remembrance owed to the founder of any Church-approved clerical order by its present-day members, it is hardly imaginable that he would have succuмbed to the grandiosity of expecting or desiring that children think of him alongside Our Lady or Saint Joseph—or even their favorite baseball team's star slugger or pitcher.

    That Father Pfeiffer might say something as foolish as this is unsurprising—the extent to which his spirituality is disordered has been thoroughly docuмented here at CI—but it is very distasteful to see commenters striving to match Father Pfeiffer's witlessness.
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    *For the information of CI's equivalent of third-gen youngsters, that's an example of a rhetorical question whose answer is no.

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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #22 on: June 10, 2019, 05:47:58 PM »
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  • So what? Is there reason to think that the pious archbishop would have wanted the situation to be otherwise?*
    I think the point is ... if they don't know who A. Lefebvre is, then they won't have interest in reading his
    books or listening to what he said (in videos).  They also will not care if B. Fellay supresses his videos and
    writings.  Then, they won't know that the SSPX is going in the wrong direction.

    Many SSPXers are being told that A. Lefebvre was always willing to make an agreement with Rome.
    He was until May 5th, but then he realized they were playing games with him.

    It's a way of saying that the youngsters don't know what SSPX is all about.  They think it's all about Latin
    and not much else.


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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #23 on: June 10, 2019, 05:52:46 PM »
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  • I think the point is ... if they don't know who A. Lefebvre is, then they won't have interest in reading his
    books or listening to what he said (in videos).  They also will not care if B. Fellay supresses his videos and
    writings.  Then, they won't know that the SSPX is going in the wrong direction.

    Many SSPXers are being told that A. Lefebvre was always willing to make an agreement with Rome.
    He was until May 5th, but then he realized they were playing games with him.

    It's a way of saying that the youngsters don't know what SSPX is all about.  They think it's all about Latin
    and not much else.
    Good points.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #24 on: June 10, 2019, 09:12:06 PM »
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  • So what? Is there reason to think that the pious archbishop would have wanted the situation to be otherwise?*

    Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (to do him the courtesy of spelling his name correctly) was plainly a man who would have regarded the posthumous bestowal upon him of celebrity status as morally inappropriate, if not repellent. As his epitaph declares, his life's aim was to pass on what he had been bequeathed—namely, the Faith, whole and entire—no more, no less. While he would have looked forward to receiving the prayerful remembrance owed to the founder of any Church-approved clerical order by its present-day members, it is hardly imaginable that he would have succuмbed to the grandiosity of expecting or desiring that children think of him alongside Our Lady or Saint Joseph—or even their favorite baseball team's star slugger or pitcher.

    That Father Pfeiffer might say something as foolish as this is unsurprising—the extent to which his spirituality is disordered has been thoroughly docuмented here at CI—but it is very distasteful to see commenters striving to match Father Pfeiffer's witlessness.
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    *For the information of CI's equivalent of third-gen youngsters, that's an example of a rhetorical question whose answer is no.
    You seem to have a screw loose.

    His observation is no doubt both correct and disturbing, not foolish. If you cannot comprehend why, nobody here can help you.

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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #25 on: July 01, 2019, 03:14:36 PM »
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  • Beyond being the biggest Catholic church in Kansas, this will be the biggest Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) church in the world. With a seating capacity of over 1,500,
    I can't wait . I hope the news of this spreads through the Phx. chapel like a wildfire . To think they have the utter gall to start a new church as OLOS in Phx. stands half built . A glaring reminder to all as to how the SSPX really operates and where their priorities lay


    "beautiful stained-glass windows which will bring the catechism of the church to life.":SSPX St Mary's KA. Window as they see fit Fund


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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #26 on: July 01, 2019, 03:51:10 PM »
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  • Is it true SSPX might be building a new Church in Southern New Jersey near Swedesboro, NJ ?

    (The above plans for new Church at St Mary’s in Kansas are beautiful.  Let’s pray it works out.) 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #27 on: July 01, 2019, 03:56:35 PM »
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  • More information can be found here:
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    https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/designs-budget-and-timeline-released-unveiling-new-immaculata-project-48917
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    And even more here:
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    http://immaculata.sspx.online/en_US/14463/204659/for_the_love_of_our_lady.html
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    "For the Love of Our Lady" it says.
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    What's missing is:
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    "For merging with the "Visible" Church in Rome",
    "The only thing wrong with Vatican II is people's misunderstanding of it", and
    "Archbishop Lefebvre was always willing to make an agreement with Rome".


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    Re: A New Church in Saint Marys, KS
    « Reply #28 on: July 01, 2019, 05:35:25 PM »
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