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Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
« on: April 27, 2019, 01:48:36 AM »
During the Priest retreat this week it seems the guest of honor was local Novus Ordo Bishop Thomas Olmsted. He even joined the Priests and SSPX Bishop for the mid-day divine office. He was also there for the social hour with drinks and appetizers. He was treated like a celebrity, all handshakes and smiles
I am surprised he didn't pose for selfies and sign autographs

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Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2019, 05:39:34 AM »
These measures are now transpiring worldwide by design.

The conciliar bishops understand the game that is being played, while Menzingen does not (or doesn’t care):

The more Rome gets them to interact with conciliarists, the more conciliar residue adheres to the SSPX clergy, while the collaboration becomes the new normal, with the faithful and clergy accustomed to it.

"But we must be patient.  What is important is that there no longer be rejection in their hearts."

First, no more combat against modernism and the modernists.

Next, collaboration.

Finally, incorporation.

It is the conversion of the SSPX to conciliarism by praxis, and the process -which is primarily psychological- is all but complete.

The proof of the Society’s conversion?

That these bishops can waltz into SSPX venues as heroes, unchallenged by clergy or faithful:

Afterwards, it is not the conciliar bishop who rejoices within himself that he has been accepted as Catholic by Catholics, but the SSPX which rejoices to have been accepted as Catholic by the conciliarists.

Modernist Rome has won the war, and converted the SSPX after 25 years of subversive leadership has steered the whole ship away from Archbishop Lefebvre (who is nothing more to the SSPX now than an embarrassing mascot, and a disturbing reminder of what they used to be):

Soon, despite the sanitized docuмentary, and the "man of the Church" rebranding in the interim/transitional phase, the faithful and clergy will feel, in places they don't talk about at parties, that +Lefebvre deserved to be excommunicated.


Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 05:57:49 AM »
Please, please let a conciliar bishop visit the St. Paul, MN SSPX chapel.

I would single handedly set relations back ten years.

It would be worth him coming, just so I could do that.

Meanwhile, everything is transpiring according to the long-established plan.

Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2019, 06:14:03 AM »

and the process -which is primarily psychological- is all but complete.

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Afterwards, it is not the conciliar bishop who rejoices within himself that he has been accepted as Catholic by Catholics, but the SSPX which rejoices to have been accepted as Catholic by the conciliarists.


Very painful to watch. And so many faithful are following right along. Arguing with the SSPX these days is what arguing with NO was 20+ years ago. The SSPX now uses the exact same arguments they used to teach us to rebut. And you are right, so much is based in psychological warfare. The NO has always used psychological arguments which the SSPX met with doctrine and Church teaching. Now the SSPX has descended into the psychological zone themselves. First step is familiarity, getting everyone to think the NO are all nice, misguided people who mean well. (and aren't dangerous at all! Or even if they are dangerous, we know better and we are special and we won't fall.) Next step, hype up what good we could do if only we would come into the Conciliar fold. The NO have been following this script forever, it's surreal to see it adopted by the SSPX.

We've been praying for the priests on retreat this week. This is a little stab in the heart. But why wouldn't Bishop Fellay take advantage of having a few dozen captive priests meet the local bishop? It's brilliant strategy and ought to be predictable by now.

Re: Our Lady Of Sorrows Phoenix and guest Bishop Olmsted
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2019, 06:58:50 AM »
The Bishop was at a priests’ retreat; not at a school.   That’s better. This bishop excommunicated a nun for allowing an abortion to take place at Catholic hospital.  I don’t know if he ever worshipped with false religions.  The SSPX priests should be able to correct any errors.  After all we are to spread the gospel of Jesus.