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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: sspxbvm on August 19, 2012, 09:17:47 AM
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Friends,
Please take out your book "Open letter to confused Catholics" by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and read page 146. Actually pages 129 to the end directly apply to us today but page 146 is particular to what we wish to express.
There are two semi valid reasons for not making a stand. Reasons that really shouldn't exist for too long. The first being the question how. How do I go about a public resistance? Do I stand on a rock and start preaching? Of course not. This is one of our problems currently. Stand up and walk out when a priest praises Bishop Fellay's errors or his "grace of state" in a sermon? That we will do next time it happens. But is it enough? We want to fight for Our Lady. Her time of victory is very soon. Wouldn't it be great to KNOW we have fought for her?
The second reason for not standing up is the loneliness of standing up by yourself. We are from a very large parish. This parish, this town is lethargicly (if there is such a word!) quiet. There is no talk of it. It is like a ghost town spiritually with NOBODY willing to be put in the spotlight as a whipping boy. My family and I wouldn't mind but those two things are pulling us back. That along with the fact the devil will single us out for horrible things. But with Our Lady on our side that doesn't bother as much as the first two reasons.
We live about 5 hours from an "independent" priest. We use to travel exactly that long in our early days of being Traditional. We can do it again. There are ways around unjust censures and expulsions but if it were just us being expelled it wouldn't make as much thunder and it would wake up so few people. As Archbishop Lefebvre said "The truth does not depend on numbers and numbers do not make the Truth." The day and time will come when we finally figure out a way to make our resistance known publicly and then maybe the others will gain courage too. This is what happens when the sheep are without a shepherd.
We MUST resist! We MUST fight for our Lady! My wife heard a sermon by a priest who refuses to fight because he needs to "obey" his superiors. In the sermon he said he is glad there was no agreement with Rome because of the new Archbishop that doesnt beleive in the virginity of Our Lady. He made it sound like this: "I am glad there was no agreement with Rome because if there was I would have to accept that the virgin Mary is not a perpetual virgin and I really believe the opposite." ..... WHERE IS COMMON SENSE? You Priests need to read "Open Letter to Confused Catholics" Pages 129-136. Page 133: "For it is a master-stroke of Satan to get Catholics to disobey the whole of Tradition in the name of obedience." This poor priest is rather strong on a great many things but he is weak. Very weak indeed when he faces "obedience" Remember, it was this "obedience" that greatly contributed to the success of the infamous "vatican II" (soon to be wiped out by our blessed Mother) and the devil is simply replaying the same trick now. Shouldn't we know better?
We have written much here. If you are still reading please do let yourselves be known as we will do shortly. I told my wife perhaps we should wait a couple of months as we plan on moving next spring. She looked at me and said "What if it is too late?" What if our Lady will already have claimed the victory by then? We will be left out in the cold. If we still get to heaven we will not be part of that great company that stood up for God and our Lady in the darkest crisis of the Church!
The only thing we are wary of is being called in to a priest's office. We must refuse to have anything to do with modernist conversations or debates about the current situation because satan is very active with this illusion and we wouldn't want to be infected. Part of a battle is not just the offensive but also the defensive.
Hence our thoughts we now display on the internet hoping that one day soon we will no longer have to "hide" on the internet feeling like we are accomplishing something of value. Let's all of us who wish to follow our Lady make a stand. You will find there will be no more time for internet opinions. Sure, now we use it because now we are trying to gather the "troops" together. Fight with us for God and His Mother.
Have suggestions on how to go about eliminating the two "reasons" for not coming out? Post them! Want to fight with us? Let us know! Send a "personal" message. This website is probably being watched but thankfully prayer and sacrifice and standing up for a good cause is not reproachable. At least not in God's "eyes".
It can still get worse. What will tomorrow's religion be if we do not resist?
VIVA CHRISTO REY!!
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If you don't move, could you start up an independent chapel with a group of like-minded people?
If you do move you might face the same attitude at the new chapel. I don't think you are describing a local problem. It's systemic throughout the Church.
As for being watched, count on it, including by non-Catholics. We are not only the resistance to modernism within the Church but the NWO at large.
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Our Lady stood by the Cross! Stand up and leave and keep your Sundays Holy. We will have to go through tribulation as Chapter 12 of Daniel states. Do what your soul says to do. Why do you think what others think? Do what is right! It takes one to encourages others? So,may it start with You!
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I came out of an independent chapel and when the priest died, the people split 5 different directions, one being home. Keep the FAith, not the building and don't get close to people to think you are leaving a family. The point is to keep the FAith. What did the people of Japan do, when they had no sacraments and clergy for over 300years! Our Lady said, Rosary and penance! They did, and when clergy did arrive, they found 65% of the Faith intact. Wow! It will hurt to leave. We had to do it. Don't be surprised, those you thought were friends, may never call on you again. The confusion is so thick! Take care of yourself, for now. It is your Faith that is at stake. When you disagree with what you hear and your stomach tells you, this is not right, go! If you don't, you may find yourself regretting your decision to stay. Do whats your soul tells you to do.
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Listen to your stomach? Listen to your soul?
Sounds overly sentimental. I don't expect God to whisper in my ear, but I'll aim for that and leave my stomach to matters of food and drink.
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Ha! That's okay, you know what I mean. I am an emotional do-do bird!
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Listen to your stomach? Listen to your soul?
Sounds overly sentimental. I don't expect God to whisper in my ear, but I'll aim for that and leave my stomach to matters of food and drink.
It doesn't take too much of an imagination to know at least what this person was talking about.
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Listen to your stomach? Listen to your soul?
Sounds overly sentimental. I don't expect God to whisper in my ear, but I'll aim for that and leave my stomach to matters of food and drink.
It doesn't take too much of an imagination to know at least what this person was talking about.
Maybe not for you, but our emotions aren't a proper gauge of right and wrong, or of what we should and shouldn't do.
Ever see videos of clown masses and the like? People get into it. I'd say they feel like it's awesome. But it ain't.
And look at the average joe. Most people don't feel that there's much wrong with abortion or sodomite marriage or whatever other thing. I think Bishop Williamson has a few things to say about feelings. They can only do so much. They shouldn't usually be a motivating factor in decision making.
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Point is, Keep the Faith!
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Absolutely.
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The only thing we are wary of is being called in to a priest's office. ... . Part of a battle is not just the offensive but also the defensive.
Have suggestions on how to go about eliminating the two "reasons" for not coming out?
I would say, don't sweat it. Considering "under obedience" is one of the favorite (and crudest) weapons of the accordistas against individuals, better we remain anonymous. Thus, attempts to silence people are mostly blind shots, and it makes the disingenuity behind all this even more obvious to anyone paying attention.
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I don't mean to sound naive, but just what can a priest do to us who do not agree with the changing landscape or resist such changes? Can a priest refuse the sacraments to us for standing on truth publicly? If my priest calls me into his office, I will tell the truth and let the grace of our Lady take its course.
If our priests and district superiors do not hear from us personally, will they believe that everyone is just ok with everything? I do not know, but I have been pretty open with the US district office in my communications (lletters) and I have heard no word from them.
What we are all feeling I presume are the same thoughts those who experience the debacle in the church after the Vat II modernisms were first introduced? Perhaps some more, some less. Many then kept quiet and look what happened?
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MY ancestors were persecuted here in America because of their Catholic Faith.
We've been persecuted. The last time I was pulled into novus ordo priest's office, I was cussed out by priest who used the f word and referred to me as "babe". There were many other times of persecution and of course we were also ostacized...
Yes, the term obedience has been abused to justify sin.
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It is hard and frustrating at times. Why is there such lukewarmness?
I have to straighten myself out and examine my own conscience and sins but I have to look out for my husband and even other family too because I would love to go to Heaven and be with God and our Blessed Mother.
We can't remain silent because then we are an accomplice to sin.
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Yes, the term obedience has been abused to justify sin.
As Catholics we have a moral duty to practice the virtue of obedience but there are limitations to that which we cannot be commanded to obey any contraindications of a higher authority. Namely in denying the dogmas of our faith.
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MY ancestors were persecuted here in America because of their Catholic Faith.
in the North? or in former Mexican territory?
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If you don't move, could you start up an independent chapel with a group of like-minded people?
If you do move you might face the same attitude at the new chapel. I don't think you are describing a local problem. It's systemic throughout the Church.
As for being watched, count on it, including by non-Catholics. We are not only the resistance to modernism within the Church but the NWO at large.
Some have upbraided me for being on FB, as it is watched.....my response-then let them watch and perhaps, learn.......esp as I have started or become members of various Catholic groups....
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Listen to your stomach? Listen to your soul?
Sounds overly sentimental. I don't expect God to whisper in my ear, but I'll aim for that and leave my stomach to matters of food and drink.
It doesn't take too much of an imagination to know at least what this person was talking about.
Maybe what is meant is intuition, formed by Grace,etc.....
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Father Joseph Pfieffer will be saying mass in Saint Marys, Kansas on Sunday August 26th, 2012 at 5:30p.m. Come if you have questions regarding the present crisis and the SSPX. Come if you desire to stand for Our Lady and the Church. For more info call: 785-304-1805.
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"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot. I would thou wert cold or hot. But because thou art lukewarm and neither cold no hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth."--- We cannot stand to be lukewarm AKA being against the satanic plot of B. Fellay and yet not say anything. We have a promise from our Mother at La Sallette: “I make an urgent appeal to the earth. I call on the true disciples of the living God who reigns in Heaven; I call on the true followers of Christ made man, the only true Saviour of men; I call on my children, the true faithful, those who have given themselves to me so that I may lead them to my divine Son, those whom I carry in my arms, so to speak, those who have lived on my spirit. Finally, I call on the Apostles of the Last Days, the faithful disciples of Jesus Christ who have lived in scorn for the world and for themselves, in poverty and in humility, in scorn and in silence, in prayer and in mortification, in chastity and in union with God, in suffering and unknown to the world. It is time they came out and filled the world with light. Go and reveal yourselves to be my cherished children. I am at your side and within you, provided that your faith is the light which shines upon you in these unhappy days. May your zeal make you famished for the glory and the honour of Jesus Christ. Fight, children of light, you, the few who can see. For now is the time of all times, the end of all ends.
Our Lady's time is very near. She will CRUSH the head of the devil. Fight on her side!
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If our priests and district superiors do not hear from us personally, will they believe that everyone is just ok with everything? I do not know, but I have been pretty open with the US district office in my communications (lletters) and I have heard no word from them.
See -- it's always silence. No rebuttal, no refuting of errors -- just silence.
Silence that speaks a thousand words.
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"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot. I would thou wert cold or hot. But because thou art lukewarm and neither cold no hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth."--- We cannot stand to be lukewarm AKA being against the satanic plot of B. Fellay and yet not say anything. We have a promise from our Mother at La Sallette: “I make an urgent appeal to the earth. I call on the true disciples of the living God who reigns in Heaven; I call on the true followers of Christ made man, the only true Saviour of men; I call on my children, the true faithful, those who have given themselves to me so that I may lead them to my divine Son, those whom I carry in my arms, so to speak, those who have lived on my spirit. Finally, I call on the Apostles of the Last Days, the faithful disciples of Jesus Christ who have lived in scorn for the world and for themselves, in poverty and in humility, in scorn and in silence, in prayer and in mortification, in chastity and in union with God, in suffering and unknown to the world. It is time they came out and filled the world with light. Go and reveal yourselves to be my cherished children. I am at your side and within you, provided that your faith is the light which shines upon you in these unhappy days. May your zeal make you famished for the glory and the honour of Jesus Christ. Fight, children of light, you, the few who can see. For now is the time of all times, the end of all ends.
Our Lady's time is very near. She will CRUSH the head of the devil. Fight on her side!
If the men of the SSPX could only tear themselves away from the television, the bar and/or the Tuesday night adult catechism/indoctrination sessions, they might recognize the Menzingen perfidy and begin to "come out and fill the world with light" as Our Lady requests.
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Father Joseph Pfeiffer will be coming to Saint Mary's Kansas for Mass at 5:30 p.m. at the Saint Marys Senior center. Travel if you must! It is a good opportunity.