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Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Matthew on June 20, 2013, 05:26:38 PM
I wonder what kind of propaganda, damage control, and attacks against the Resistance we will see tomorrow morning.

This isn't 2012. Remember a full year ago? The Resistance barely existed. Fr. Hewko was still a member of the SSPX. Today, they can't afford to just ignore the Resistance. The situation is different today.

How many people among the Faithful -- or even among the priests -- will be canvassing the crowd spreading the "Good News" about resisting the new Vatican II orientation within the SSPX?

Like I said, the SSPX authorities can't afford to be passive any more. And indeed they aren't -- just look at Fr. Rutledge's sermon 2 weeks ago in Minnesota. It would seem that the heat is being turned up, and there it will stay until something "happens".

The SSPX will have all their best and brightest propagandists on hand to deliver their own message.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Matto on June 20, 2013, 05:51:59 PM
From an SSPX email:
Quote

Pray for Friday's priestly ordinands
June 20, 2013
District of the US

Prayers are requested for the seminarians being ordained to the priesthood and diaconate tomorrow, Friday, June 21st.


Tomorrow at 9:00am (Friday, June 21) the ceremonies of priestly ordinations will begin at St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary in Winona, Minnesota.
12 new priests for the Church!

Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta will confer the Priesthood of Our Lord Jesus Christ on 12 deacons, 11 from the SSPX and 1 from the Dominican house in Avrille, France:
Rev. Lawrence Barret (Post Falls, ID)    Rev. Luke DeMeyer (Durham, CA)
Rev. John Hattrup (Mead, WA)    Rev. William Kimball (Syracuse, NY)
Rev. Marc Potvin (Strathmore, Alberta, Canada)    Rev. James Carlisle (Nicholville, NY)
Rev. David Gillilan (Post Falls, ID)    Rev. Otto Keiser (Dickinson, TX)
Rev. Christopher Pedersen (St. Mary's, KS)    Rev. Jonathan Prescott (Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada)
Rev. Alexander Wiseman (Post Falls, ID)    Br. Terence Boyle, OP (Avrille, France)

A listing of their First Masses can be found on the seminary's website.
Deacons too!

Demonstrating the steady and continual growth of priestly vocations in the SSPX, Bishop de Galerreta will also ordain 6 subdeacons to the diaconate.
Prayers requested

Please pray for all of these ordinands, that they will utilize the abundant graces received through the Sacrament of Holy Orders and continue to grow in holiness, thus fulfilling the goal of Archbishop Lefebvre: to form true and holy priests.



That's a lot of new priests. I wonder if any of them are sympathetic to the resistance.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: magdalena on June 20, 2013, 05:59:12 PM
I suspect the turn out will be smaller than usual.  Here is the weather forecast for Winona on Friday , courtesy of weathercity.com



 Thursday Evening Temperature: 72°F
A mix of cloudy and clear skies with a chance of showers or thundershowers.  
 
 
Friday, June 21st, 2013

 Overnight Temperature: 63°F
A mix of cloudy and clear skies with a few showers. Chance of a thunderstorm. 0.12 to 0.28 inches of rain. Windy at times.  
 
 

 Friday Morning Temperature: 70°F
Cloudy with a few showers. Chance of a thunderstorm. 0.16 to 0.28 inches of rain. Windy at times.  
 
 

 Friday Afternoon Temperature: 86°F
Cloudy. Chance of a thunderstorm. Windy at times.  
 
 

 Friday Evening Temperature: 79°F
A mix of cloudy and clear skies. Chance of a thunderstorm.  
 



If you opt to go, bring your umbrella.

 
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Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on June 20, 2013, 06:00:42 PM
Quote
Demonstrating the steady and continual growth of priestly vocations in the SSPX


It almost seems like they're trying to rub this into the faces of the Resistance. I'm not saying that's what they're doing, but I can't help but get the impression.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Zeitun on June 20, 2013, 06:02:11 PM
We should pray that they always stay true to the Faith handed down from Our Lord and never compromise.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Quo Vadis Petre on June 20, 2013, 06:10:40 PM
From what I've heard, some of the ordinands here should have been ordained 1 or 2 years ago, but there was suspicion concerning their sympathy to the "hardliners" expelled by the SSPX.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: sspxbvm on June 20, 2013, 06:29:07 PM
Pray for these new priests. God  bless them.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Zeitun on June 20, 2013, 07:00:26 PM
There's been rumors Rev Mr Kimball was denied ordination as a punishment but I can't verify.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Sienna629 on June 20, 2013, 07:12:39 PM
Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
Quote
Demonstrating the steady and continual growth of priestly vocations in the SSPX


It almost seems like they're trying to rub this into the faces of the Resistance. I'm not saying that's what they're doing, but I can't help but get the impression.


Keep in mind though, that their journeys began years before the crisis in the SSPX surfaced, so it is coincidence more than any affinity for the Accordistas.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Machabees on June 20, 2013, 07:41:33 PM
Quote from: Zeitun
There's been rumors Rev Mr Kimball was denied ordination as a punishment but I can't verify.


Fr. Paul Kimball (SSPX), stationed in England, is the Uncle of Rev. Mr. Kimball.  He is the one who had heroically "leaked" the April 2012 letters of the Bishops; in turn, began the "Resistance".

Fr. Paul Kimball is now being transferred to Africa.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Zeitun on June 20, 2013, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: Machabees
Fr. Paul Kimball is now being transferred to Africa.


What an honor to serve where Archbishop Lefebvre did.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: sea leopard on June 20, 2013, 09:12:16 PM
GOOD NEWS

Fr. Hewko is in Winona NOW with his extended family and will be on the grounds tomorrow.  (Friday)

Observing the Ordination of his nephew, one of a couple dozen young people in which he has been KEY in their joining the religious life.

Will enough real trad cats ask him for a conference friday evening downtown Winona??

He will be leaving Sat AM for other areas with more well read and informed trad cats.

PM me with good ID for his phone number.

GBA
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Matthew on June 21, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
Anyone know where Fr. Pfeiffer is this evening?
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Incredulous on June 21, 2013, 12:38:06 AM


Will Raymond Arroyo and the EWTN camera crews report it live?


(http://www.scepterpublishers.org/news/pictures/569.jpg)


Just asking...
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Zeitun on June 21, 2013, 12:38:07 AM
Quote from: sea leopard
GOOD NEWS

Fr. Hewko is in Winona NOW with his extended family and will be on the grounds tomorrow.  (Friday)

Observing the Ordination of his nephew, one of a couple dozen young people in which he has been KEY in their joining the religious life.


But Fr. Haynos COULDN'T make it?  Pity.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Zeitun on June 21, 2013, 12:41:53 AM
Quote from: Matthew
Anyone know where Fr. Pfeiffer is this evening?


Beating up satan.

Don't forget to give this post a thumbs down!  

Thank you.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Neil Obstat on June 21, 2013, 01:47:34 AM
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Quote from: Zeitun
We should pray that they always stay true to the Faith handed down from Our Lord and never compromise.


Someone needs to real quick compose a prayer for the new
priests that can be distributed around the premises tomorrow.

It's encouraging to see that Fr. Hewko will be there.  He won't
even have to say anything to make a statement!  



Quote from: Zeitun
Quote from: Matthew
Anyone know where Fr. Pfeiffer is this evening?


Beating up satan.  Don't forget to give this post a thumbs down!  Thank you.


You're welcome.
You know, Zeitun, if you want to make an impression you could
say that he doesn't have to do things himself that he can sub out.

But that doesn't belong in the prayer for the new priests!  



Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Neil Obstat on June 21, 2013, 01:59:39 AM
.

O God, Who by Thy most beneficent providence hath seen
fit to grant these new and faithful priests Thy signal grace
of Holy Orders, deign to likewise grant that they may stand
firm in the tradition that has been handed down to them
from our venerable founder, Archbishop Lefebvre - whose
doctrine, like that of Holy Mother Church, is under the effect
of an ever-increasing torrent of vice and deception - such
that they may withstand that pernicious effect that surely
will assault them in their practice of Thy holy ministry.



Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Ekim on June 21, 2013, 10:05:32 AM
Just a reminder, Fr. Hewko has never received an expulsion letter, or was any ever pronounced, from the SSPX.  He did receive a warning but nothing more. It is right and proper for him to be at the ordination.

 Father said that after the Ordination last year, Fr.Rostand immediately "corrected" the Bishop as he sat down, telling him his sermon was inappropriate and divisive.  I wonder if the sermon this year was approved by a review committee???  Perhaps it is broadcast on 2 minute delay to give them time to edit it Ha!

I would love to see the response that Fr. Hewko, still a priest of the SSPX, gets at the ordination.


Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: hugeman on June 21, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
Quote from: Matto
From an SSPX email:
Quote

Pray for Friday's priestly ordinands
June 20, 2013
District of the US

Prayers are requested for the seminarians being ordained to the priesthood and diaconate tomorrow, Friday, June 21st.


Tomorrow at 9:00am (Friday, June 21) the ceremonies of priestly ordinations will begin at St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary in Winona, Minnesota.
12 new priests for the Church!

Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta will confer the Priesthood of Our Lord Jesus Christ on 12 deacons, 11 from the SSPX and 1 from the Dominican house in Avrille, France:
Rev. Lawrence Barret (Post Falls, ID)    Rev. Luke DeMeyer (Durham, CA)
Rev. John Hattrup (Mead, WA)    Rev. William Kimball (Syracuse, NY)
Rev. Marc Potvin (Strathmore, Alberta, Canada)    Rev. James Carlisle (Nicholville, NY)
Rev. David Gillilan (Post Falls, ID)    Rev. Otto Keiser (####inson, TX)
Rev. Christopher Pedersen (St. Mary's, KS)    Rev. Jonathan Prescott (Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada)
Rev. Alexander Wiseman (Post Falls, ID)    Br. Terence Boyle, OP (Avrille, France)

A listing of their First Masses can be found on the seminary's website.
Deacons too!

Demonstrating the steady and continual growth of priestly vocations in the SSPX, Bishop de Galerreta will also ordain 6 subdeacons to the diaconate.

Prayers requeste

Please pray for all of these ordinands, that they will utilize the abundant graces received through the Sacrament of Holy Orders and continue to grow in holiness, thus fulfilling the goal of Archbishop Lefebvre: to form true and holy priests.


That's a lot of new priests. I wonder if any of them are sympathetic to the

resistance.


Sadly, that's a lot of souls that are being deceived. Bishop Bernard Fellay, along with Fr Schmidberger,Rostand, LeRoux and their clan, have all said officially and formally, in a well docuмented letter to the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, that they accept the Novus Ordo Mess, that they accept the heretical teachings of the occupants of the chair of peter since 1958, that they accept the New Code of Canon Law, and that , amongst other promises and vows, the mission of SSPX priests NOW COMES from the local Novus Ordo Ordinary.

  As Archbishop Mueller stated very clearly, the SSPX Bishops (now ) have no mission in the Catholic Church.They were consecrated illicitly, against the strict orders of Rome, and they remain disobedient to a pope and a Roman Dicastery they have pledged loyalty and obedience to. This crop of leaders ( in the SSPX) is significantly different in orientation and thinking than was the Archbishop Lefebvre.

   So, from where are the Holy Orders coming for these men ? From leaders in the SSPX who protest their love of the Novus Ordo and the sodomite presbyters, "bishops", and "cardinals" of the new church of the new advent? Are their orders coming from the local ordinaries-- who have moved heaven and earth to bury the true Mass, to bury the true sacrifice, to destroy all vocations and to merge the "c"atholic church into a one-world religion?
  The Holy Orders for these men are certainly not coming from Archbishop Lefebvre, nor are they coming from the Society of Saint Pius X that he founded. The orders are not coming from the Bishops he consecrated-- for those bishops, except one, have seemingly all accepted the church of ratzinger and brogoglio, a church humanistic and marxist at its core, as their new religion. This religion of "pragmatism", of "prudent" capitulation of principles to achieve some nebulous objective, has sold its soul to join up with the conciliar church, a church woth which Archbishop Lefebvre stated he "had no desire" to join.

   So, we pray for these souls. They have a chance , now, to escape the clutches of the enemy which has crawled within the SSPX. They can stand like men and request ordination from a true follower of Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church, or theycan forever compromise themselves and accept the meal ticket from Fellay's brainwashed minions.
  The evidence is so plane to see. The lies and distortions of truth Fellay and his comrades have strewn the past ten years constitute a towering indictment of his mismanagement of the SSPX, and his herding of faithful souls into the Novus ordo.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Matthew on June 21, 2013, 10:37:44 AM
Any update on Winona? What was said in the sermons? Who was there from the Resistance? Any disturbances? Etc.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Neil Obstat on June 21, 2013, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: Ekim
Just a reminder, Fr. Hewko has never received an expulsion letter, or was any ever pronounced, from the SSPX.  He did receive a warning but nothing more. It is right and proper for him to be at the ordination.

 Father said that after the Ordination last year, Fr.Rostand immediately "corrected" the Bishop as he sat down, telling him his sermon was inappropriate and divisive.  I wonder if the sermon this year was approved by a review committee???  Perhaps it is broadcast on 2 minute delay to give them time to edit it Ha!

I would love to see the response that Fr. Hewko, still a priest of the SSPX, gets at the ordination.





When I first read this, I thought you were saying you'd like to see
what Fr. Hewko's response will be after seeing the ordinations.


Now I see you're saying the response he gets (from others) -

- I have two things:

1)  I hope he has a friend with him at all times, perhaps two or
three others who can trade places, but he should not go around
alone, because then there will be no witness to the treatment he
receives from others.  There may be some who are just waiting
for the opportunity to "get him alone" so they can pull some kind
of tactic without being observed, and later they can deny it as
though Fr. Hewko would be making up a story.  If he has a friend
with him, they can't do that, and so therefore, they won't.

2)  If they are true to their new Moderninst leanings, what they
are likely to do is to ignore Fr. Hewko, that is, pay no attention to
anything he says, as if he is not there.  If he approaches someone
in a situation where that someone is receiving others in turn, for
example, in the most extreme case, the one receiving would turn
away and leave Fr. Hewko's presence.



His purpose in being there is primarily to offer positive encouragement
to the ordinands, to congratulate them, and to greet the men he has
influenced in years past toward the pursuit of their own vocations.

He doesn't need to go on the "offensive" regarding the sell-out of +F,
and he doesn't need to ask anyone pointed questions, even though
he could, obviously.  If anyone there doesn't know what he stands
for, it's their own fault.  His mere presence, wearing a cassock, is
his statement for it speaks for itself.  

Of course, there might be someone who sets up a situation, where
for example, two might have a prepared script they will perform in
front of Fr. Hewko, under the pretense of having a conversation with
him.  They could do this after several times they, or others more
likely, have 'snubbed' him, such that they would have evoked a sense
of tension in him or a desire to be recognized.  At that point, saying
their script they had prepared in advance, they could turn to Fr.
Hewko, whose attention they have, and ask him a question designed
to trap him, or to evoke from him a response (like the +W interview)
that would be incriminating, or could be used in that way.  

This is why he should have an informed friend with him at all times, so
that a witness can see this kind of thing in action.  Also, the friend
should be extra vigilant not to be distracted by someone, for one of
their tactics could be to draw the attention of Fr's. friend away for
a moment, while someone else does the scheme, above.  

Fr. Hewko is coming in to a situation that the Menzingen-denizens
have had several weeks to prepare for, and there could easily be a
team of rehearsed players whose task it will be to endeavor just such
a scenario as that described above.  In fact, it is the kind of thing
that +F could be using to test the effectiveness of particular men,
to see if they are capable of handling planned encounters, and to
test if they are willing to embark on such a thing in order to show
their allegiance to him, in hopes of 'moving up the ladder' to a
position of higher authority in the Society, such as a capitulant for
the chapters.

The test would be to see if they can pull off a favorable result, that
is, to obtain something useful from Fr. Hewko that can be used
against him, so as to, for example, expel him (they might not have
expelled him yet because they don't have enough of such things).
Also, it would be a test to see if they can be trusted to keep a
secret, and not divulge the fact that this planned scheme had been
rehearsed in advance.  It would be quite a story if one such a man
would break away and offer his testimony to all the dark secrets are
being hidden in the closets of Menzingen.

I would not put it past these people to try such things.  It's the
sort of thing that Freemasons and Zionists use all the time, and the
new leanings of the ExSPX are right down that alley.

But this is all speculation, and I have no specific evidence that any
such thing is really going on.  I'm just offering it as a real possibility
considering all the recent stories to come down the pike -- how could
+F have pulled off the Chapter last year without applying some kind
of clandestine pressure on individuals?  And it is not reported because
the ones to whom it happened have been formed gradually over years
of practice, to keep secrets and to be 'obedient' and follow orders
without too much thinking about what they're doing - blind loyalty -
and you cannot deny that such blind loyalty is being demanded of the
members of the ExSPX.

Blind obedience never has been and never will be Catholic.  



Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Ekim on June 21, 2013, 11:55:58 AM
The idea of a friend with him reminds me of my ol' Boy Scout days...the "Buddy System", or my time in the military..."leave no man behind".  In lieu of this however, a pair of Dick Tracy Video spy glasses would be nice.  This way, Father can record everyone and everything in secret so peoples true reactions can be captured.

I'm glad he's there and looking forward to an update.  I'm surprised with the new SSPX Website, they didn't stream in live.  Even the Fraternity of St. Peter did that.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Neil Obstat on June 21, 2013, 01:17:27 PM
.

I had begun with this prayer,

Quote from: Neil Obstat
.

O God, who by thy most beneficent providence hath seen
fit to grant these new and faithful priests thy signal grace
of Holy Orders, deign to likewise grant that they may stand
firm in the tradition that has been handed down to them
from our venerable founder, Archbishop Lefebvre - whose
doctrine, like that of Holy Mother Church, is under the effect
of an ever-increasing torrent of vice and deception - such
that they may withstand that pernicious effect that surely
will assault them in their practice of thy holy ministry.







And now, I see there is the making here for more versions..........

(BTW, I'm impressed to see the ExSPX has taken notice to correct the
incipient misspelling of Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta's name -- it appears
as "Alphonso De Gallaretta" in the flyer from two months ago.)



Quote from: hugeman
Quote from: Matto
From an SSPX email:
Quote

Pray for Friday's priestly ordinands
June 20, 2013
District of the US

Prayers are requested for the seminarians being ordained to the priesthood and diaconate tomorrow, Friday, June 21st.


Tomorrow at 9:00am (Friday, June 21) the ceremonies of priestly ordinations will begin at St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary in Winona, Minnesota.
12 new priests for the Church!

Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta will confer the Priesthood of Our Lord Jesus Christ on 12 deacons, 11 from the SSPX and 1 from the Dominican house in Avrille, France:
Rev. Lawrence Barret (Post Falls, ID)    Rev. Luke DeMeyer (Durham, CA)
Rev. John Hattrup (Mead, WA)    Rev. William Kimball (Syracuse, NY)
Rev. Marc Potvin (Strathmore, Alberta, Canada)    Rev. James Carlisle (Nicholville, NY)
Rev. David Gillilan (Post Falls, ID)    Rev. Otto Keiser (Dic~kinson, TX)
Rev. Christopher Pedersen (St. Mary's, KS)    Rev. Jonathan Prescott (Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada)
Rev. Alexander Wiseman (Post Falls, ID)    Br. Terence Boyle, OP (Avrille, France)

A listing of their First Masses can be found on the seminary's website.
Deacons too!

Demonstrating the steady and continual growth of priestly vocations in the SSPX, Bishop de Galerreta will also ordain 6 subdeacons to the diaconate.

Prayers requeste

Please pray for all of these ordinands, that they will utilize the abundant graces received through the Sacrament of Holy Orders and continue to grow in holiness, thus fulfilling the goal of Archbishop Lefebvre: to form true and holy priests.


That's a lot of new priests. I wonder if any of them are sympathetic to the

resistance.


  Sadly, that's a lot of souls that are being deceived. Bishop Bernard Fellay, along with Fr Schmidberger, Rostand, LeRoux and their clan, have all said officially and formally in a well-docuмented letter to the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, that they accept the Novus Ordo Mess, that they accept the heretical teachings of the occupants of the chair of peter since 1958, that they accept the New Code of Canon Law, and that, amongst other promises and vows, the mission of SSPX priests NOW COMES from the local Novus Ordo Ordinary.

  As Archbishop Mueller stated very clearly, the SSPX Bishops (now ) have no mission in the Catholic Church.They were consecrated illicitly, against the strict orders of Rome, and they remain disobedient to a pope and a Roman Dicastery they have pledged loyalty and obedience to. This crop of leaders ( in the SSPX) is significantly different in orientation and thinking than was the Archbishop Lefebvre.

   So, from where are the Holy Orders coming for these men ? From leaders in the SSPX who protest their love of the Novus Ordo and the sodomite pres~byters, "bishops", and "cardinals" of the new church of the new advent? Are their orders coming from the local ordinaries-- who have moved heaven and earth to bury the true Mass, to bury the true sacrifice, to destroy all vocations and to merge the "c"atholic church into a one-world religion?

  The Holy Orders for these men are certainly not coming from Archbishop Lefebvre, nor are they coming from the Society of Saint Pius X that he founded. The orders are not coming from the Bishops he consecrated-- for those bishops, except one, have seemingly all accepted the church of ratzinger and brogoglio, a church humanistic and marxist at its core, as their new religion. This religion of "pragmatism", of "prudent" capitulation of principles to achieve some nebulous objective, has sold its soul to join up with the conciliar church, a church with which Archbishop Lefebvre stated he "had no desire" to join.

   So, we pray for these souls. They have a chance, now, to escape the clutches of the enemy which has crawled within the SSPX. They can stand like men and request ordination from a true follower of Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church, or they can forever compromise themselves and accept the meal ticket from Fellay's brainwashed minions.

  The evidence is so plain to see. The lies and distortions of truth Fellay and his comrades have strewn the past ten years constitute a towering indictment of his mismanagement of the SSPX, and his herding of faithful souls into the Novus Ordo.





With 5 Additional prayers:



O God, who by thy most beneficent providence hath seen
fit to grant these new and faithful priests thy signal grace
of Holy Orders, deign to likewise grant that they may stand
firm in the tradition that has been handed down to them
from our venerable founder, Archbishop Lefebvre - whose
doctrine, like that of Holy Mother Church, is under the effect
of an ever-increasing torrent of vice and deception - such
that they may withstand that pernicious effect that surely
will assault them in their practice of thy holy ministry.
Through our Lord.





O God, by whose most propitious providence hast deigned
to bestow upon these ordinands the infinite blessing of Holy
Orders, do not neglect to likewise protect them from the
deceptions of Bishop B. Fellay and his denizens who have
officially proclaimed their acceptance of the abominable Novus
Ordo Newmass, the heretical teachings of the recent occupants
of the Chair of Peter, the 'New Code' of Canon Law,and that
the mission of SSPX priests comes from the Newchurch Ordinary
inasmuch as it is in open defiance of thy Sacred Tradition.
Through our Lord.




Most providential and eternal God, Who hast seen it right in all
justice to proffer to the world this conspicuous blessing of the
Society that the venerable Archbishop Lefebvre, thy servant,
founded, we come to Thee in all humility and lowness to beg your
continued providence in protecting these new ordinands from the
malicious lie that would have their orders come to them from the
very enemies of thy Church who now occupy her highest offices.
We beseech Thee to aid them in their understanding, that theirs
is a mission directly from Thee, and not via the sifting screen of
these mercenaries in the faith, these hirelings laden with every
unclean vice and unspeakable foulness, these imposters who are
presently local ordinaries who have moved heaven and earth to
bury the true Mass and the true Sacrifice of thy Son, so as to
destroy all vocations and merge thy Church into the abominable
desolation of a one-world religion. Through our Lord.




O God, who dost correct what has gone astray and gatherest
together what is scattered, and keepest what Thou hast
gathered together, we beseech Thee in thy mercy to pour down
upon Christian people the grace of union with Thee that putting
aside disunion and attaching themselves to the true shepherd of
Thy Church they may be able to render Thee due service.
Through our Lord.




O God, who hast given us in this time of severe trial in the
Faith of Catholics, the marvelous if not fading heritage of thy
one true Church in the four Bishops, consecrated in 1988 by thy
venerable servants Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de
Castro Mayer according to thy will, and as of old one in twelve
was not clean now it seems the one who leads departs from the
other three, we beseech Thee to find it also in thy infinite
goodness and mercy to likewise give these newly ordained
priests the knowledge that their Holy Orders, not coming under
the express approval of the current leaders of the false conciliar
church of pragmatism and capitulation of Catholic principles
"toward the unknown region" of their subjective fantasy with
which thy venerable servants would have no truck, are Holy
Orders for a holy and pure purpose to serve thine own will and
not the will of fallen man. Through our Lord.




O God, with thy most august blessing and truly gracious
benevolence having bestowed upon us the inestimable bounty
of these new priests ordained to thy service, we pray that
Thou dost not cease here in thy mercy, but that Thou may
find it in thine infinite goodness one small additional grace,
which is, that these new priests may discover the fortitude to
escape the clutches of the enemy that has crawled withing
the SSPX, and stand like men requesting ordination from a true
follower of thy Son our Lord Jesus Christ, lest they would
submit themselves to the meal ticket from +Fellay's
brainwashed minions.  For the pernicious lies and distortions
that +Fellay and his clan have over the past ten years
perpetrated upon the Faithful of thy Church constitute a
towering indictment of his mismanagement of thy SSPX, and his
herding of faithful souls into the Novus Ordo Saeclorum, an act
which we deplore and for which we seek hereby to beg thy
pardon and absolution.  Through our Lord.






Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Machabees on June 21, 2013, 02:09:00 PM
Unfortunately, I do not see that there would be any such ABL type sermons anymore the way we had known it to be at the ordinations, and at the Seminary in general.  The leadership had made sure that no one will be “ordained” who does not accept the new course of the yellow brick road.  The compromise has been set in stone in the new official SSPX Doctrine sent to conciliar Rome within the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration of “adopted modernism”.

Doctrine had left the “city on the hill”…in substitute for the spirituality of the “city of Vatican II”.

This is the new teaching to be "handed down".  It happened to the 9-other Traditional groups.  It also happened to the present proud-leaders of the SSPX.  The stage of CPR has passed; they are in emergency critical stage within a COMA of Vatican II.  The disease has infected them, and has spread like wild fire throughout their priests, through apathy, silence, and complicity; including their “zombie” faithful.

Modernism is like a mosquito.  If you imprudently “open the front door” to the world without a “screen door” of Wisdom, council, and discernment to guard the entry, the “modernist mosquitos” come in.  Once in, the “enemies”  go about “humming their irritating noises”.  If you do not pay attention to be on guard and get those “parasites” out, they inject you with its “numbing fluid”; then they suck the blood of Faith out of you.

So much of being “prudent”, eh “leaders”…?

What remains for your "prudence" is to go in the corner and wilt...the Faith has been sucked out.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Neil Obstat on June 21, 2013, 03:39:32 PM
.

I do hope someone brought their recorder -- maybe Fr. Hewko did!!

But then again, +de Galarreta is sometimes difficult to understand.




(BTW they did misspell his name once in the e-mail:  "de Galerreta"
re: the 6 deacons.)




Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Chiara on June 21, 2013, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: Matthew
Any update on Winona? What was said in the sermons? Who was there from the Resistance? Any disturbances? Etc.


Any news yet? Anyone see or speak with Fr. Hewko?
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: cath4ever on June 21, 2013, 05:59:36 PM
Quote from: Chiara
Quote from: Matthew
Any update on Winona? What was said in the sermons? Who was there from the Resistance? Any disturbances? Etc.


Any news yet? Anyone see or speak with Fr. Hewko?


Ordinations went fine. The weather was terrible for hours before Mass up through the first half hour or so of the Mass itself. This necessitated the sacred ministers (including the Bishop himself) vesting in the ordinations tent, which made for a VERY short procession. There was some trouble with the audio too several times.
The Bishop's sermon was very suitable for the occasion. The Bishop preached in Spanish and Fr. Iscara translated.
I did not see Fr. Hewko myself. However, I really don't know what he looks like all that well so I could have seen him and didn't know it.
I didn't sense any tension and didn't see any open conflict. Twelve young men received the sacerdotal powers today. I'm very happy for them and I hope you all are too. Please keep all of them in your prayers, as I will surely do.

Reverend Father Jonathan Prescott
Reverend Father Marc Potvin
Reverend Father David Gillilan
Reverend Father Luke DeMeyer
Reverend Father John Hattrup
Reverend Father Alexander Wiseman
Reverend Father Lawrence Barrett
Reverend Father William Kimball
Reverend Father Otto Keiser
Reverend Father Christopher Pedersen
Reverend Father James Carlisle
Reverend Father Terrence, O.P.

Sacerdotes in aeternum. Deo gratias!
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Chiara on June 21, 2013, 06:23:03 PM
Thanks, Cath4ever, for the update.

Regarding prayers for the new priests, I have and will continue to pray for them.

O Jesus, Savior of the World, sanctify Thy priests and sacred ministers!
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Chiara on June 21, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
Any further updates, news, pictures?
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Zeitun on June 21, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Fr. Hewko is 6ft 4in tall.  He's very hard to miss.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Kelley on June 21, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
Quote from: cath4ever
I did not see Fr. Hewko myself. However, I really don't know what he looks like all that well so I could have seen him and didn't know it.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Md3JTPc3sc0/UWR63FOX6MI/AAAAAAAAAjw/-nnKv_iIs-0/s1600/27+bis+-+Copie.jpg)

God bless Fr David Hewko.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: eddiearent on June 21, 2013, 07:22:36 PM
12 new priests for the SSPX but 1 defection.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Marlelar on June 21, 2013, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: cath4ever
Twelve young men received the sacerdotal powers today. I'm very happy for them and I hope you all are too. Please keep all of them in your prayers, as I will surely do.


I wish the seminary page would list the names with the pictures so we would know one from another.

Marsha
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Marlelar on June 21, 2013, 08:00:58 PM
Quote from: eddiearent
12 new priests for the SSPX but 1 defection.


Defection?

Marsha
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Beatifico on June 21, 2013, 09:45:50 PM
Quote from: eddiearent
12 new priests for the SSPX but 1 defection.


Who defected?  

I thought Matthew Stafki, the brother of Father Mark Stafki was supposed to be ordained too.  Anyone know why he wasn't?
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: cathman7 on June 21, 2013, 09:50:44 PM
Quote from: eddiearent
12 new priests for the SSPX but 1 defection.


Was this meant tongue and cheek? If not, what is the point of posting this rather vague message?

1 defection? Who? Why?
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Neil Obstat on June 22, 2013, 01:54:02 AM
Quote from: obscurus
Quote from: eddiearent
12 new priests for the SSPX but 1 defection.


Was this meant tongue-in-cheek? If not, what is the point of posting this rather vague message?

1 defection? Who? Why?



Maybe it was a retarded joke, because the post itself is the "defection."



                                                :rolleyes:

Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: sea leopard on June 22, 2013, 04:11:30 AM
            ________FACT_________

Fr. Hewko flew in from Our Lady of Mount Carmel, and came to Winona, to be with his family,           NOT          to confront anyone.

He is a Catholic Priest, par excellence.

He stayed by himself at a "low profile" motel on the east end of town.

At Thursday night dinner, with his family, he was told "he should NOT be on the cemetery (seminary) grounds.  (Editorial License - I play with words.)

The source is the  '"BOSS"' and the ramifications for a new Priest are obvious to all who have been aware of the    SSPX  rebranding,    change of direction.

Therefore, the BEST Fr. could do, was pray his Breviary, parked on a PUBLIC road at the same elevation (actually higher) a very short distance away, (feet, not miles) during the ordination of his nephew.

Catholic charity at its' finest!!!!! (my pejorative  comment to this otherwise factual reporting)


___________Was the parking of a Winona County Sheriffs' car at the entrance to the cemetery, I mean seminary, supposed to imply something. No Tradcats among Winona's Finest. _________


I believe this was the largest turnout in the past 10 years at least. Over 200 tent/campers, main tent full, north side outside of tent chairs at 90%, south side garage full, car parking in north cow pasture full, (some mud, 2 inches of rain during thursday night, and very wet previous couple weeks) and the south hay field was full.

A tall Priest was observed assisting an inexperienced young driver who was "buried" in the mud. His "old SSPX" prayers were soon rewarded by a tractor and 40 ft. of chain.      Novus Order catholic charity in action. Friendly people in Minnesota.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Infiguris on June 22, 2013, 06:04:13 AM
These huge crowds of people during ordinations it was "a manifestation of strength in numbers". :boxer:

 In Ontario for the first time SSPX has organized a bus trip to Winona. The faithful were happy to go for ordinations because we have three new priests ordained from Canada. Unfortunately, only one remains in the country. Once again, the question  must be asked: why here govern the priests from abroad, and our are shipped to countries where the number of years it will take them to acclimatize and sometimes learn a new and "exotic" language FROM THE BEGINNING ( for ex.Lithuanian)
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: hugeman on June 22, 2013, 08:28:57 AM
 :guitar:
Quote from: Kelley
Quote from: cath4ever
I did not see Fr. Hewko myself. However, I really don't know what he looks like all that well so I could have seen him and didn't know it.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Md3JTPc3sc0/UWR63FOX6MI/AAAAAAAAAjw/-nnKv_iIs-0/s1600/27+bis+-+Copie.jpg)

God bless Fr David Hewko.


All twelve new priests put together would have a tough time
standing head to head with this man. When the boys were at LaSalette Academy, Fr. Hewko
( the incomparable) came for a mission retreat for the students. During the week, he (fr. Hewko)
Related to the boys of a young fella in California who was having terrible
attacks by Satan; who was very sick and was viciferously denying his faith. Father
asked the LaSalette boys if they would not offer up all their prayers, works, studies, and
Sacrifices that week for this young man.

  The boys agreed. You can imagine, with Father Hewko intent on turning these
boys into Catholic men, they had plenty to offer up that week!
   Father soon left to return to his missions. A short time later. He wrote the boys,
giving them the good news: the young man's heart was converted, he asked for his priest
( of course traditional), received the sacraments of Holy Mother
The Church, and passed away. Deo Gratias! That's Father Hewko!
When you see him-- you'll know him. And then you'll know you have seen a true priest of
Jesus Christ

Ps: you can meet Fr. Hewko at the 25 th Anniversary Celebration
For Bishop Williamson this week in Vienna, Va. ( see www..com)
Website.Save the Catholic Faith! (http://Http://www..com)
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: JPaul on June 22, 2013, 09:15:24 AM
Quote from: Infiguris
These huge crowds of people during ordinations it was "a manifestation of strength in numbers". :boxer:

 In Ontario for the first time SSPX has organized a bus trip to Winona. The faithful were happy to go for ordinations because we have three new priests ordained from Canada. Unfortunately, only one remains in the country. Once again, the question  must be asked: why here govern the priests from abroad, and our are shipped to countries where the number of years it will take them to acclimatize and sometimes learn a new and "exotic" language FROM THE BEGINNING ( for ex.Lithuanian)


When they start busing them in to boost the numbers.............
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: magdalena on June 22, 2013, 09:43:59 AM
Quote from: sea leopard
 

At Thursday night dinner, with his family, he was told "he should NOT be on the cemetery (seminary) grounds.  (Editorial License - I play with words.)




 :sad:  Cemetery sounds pretty accurate.  
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: eddiearent on June 22, 2013, 09:45:25 AM
I received a letter that Fr. de Chambord has left the SSPX. I always thought of him as being on "Bishop Fellay's side" and the letter really said much but not a lot if you get my drift. Fr. de Chambord was stationed in America since December 2012.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Sienna629 on June 22, 2013, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: Infiguris
These huge crowds of people during ordinations it was "a manifestation of strength in numbers". :boxer:

 In Ontario for the first time SSPX has organized a bus trip to Winona. The faithful were happy to go for ordinations because we have three new priests ordained from Canada. Unfortunately, only one remains in the country. Once again, the question  must be asked: why here govern the priests from abroad, and our are shipped to countries where the number of years it will take them to acclimatize and sometimes learn a new and "exotic" language FROM THE BEGINNING ( for ex.Lithuanian)


To paraphrase the quote from St. Athanasius, "They have the buildings, but we have the Faith" one could also say "They have the numbers, but we have the Faith"

It reminds me of how the Liberals in the US bring bus loads of people in for some voting issue to get the numbers they want.
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Sienna629 on June 22, 2013, 10:05:34 AM
Quote from: sea leopard
           ________FACT_________

Fr. Hewko flew in from Our Lady of Mount Carmel, and came to Winona, to be with his family,           NOT          to confront anyone.

He is a Catholic Priest, par excellence.

He stayed by himself at a "low profile" motel on the east end of town.

At Thursday night dinner, with his family, he was told "he should NOT be on the cemetery (seminary) grounds.  (Editorial License - I play with words.)

The source is the  '"BOSS"' and the ramifications for a new Priest are obvious to all who have been aware of the    SSPX  rebranding,    change of direction.

Therefore, the BEST Fr. could do, was pray his Breviary, parked on a PUBLIC road at the same elevation (actually higher) a very short distance away, (feet, not miles) during the ordination of his nephew.

Catholic charity at its' finest!!!!! (my pejorative  comment to this otherwise factual reporting)


___________Was the parking of a Winona County Sheriffs' car at the entrance to the cemetery, I mean seminary, supposed to imply something. No Tradcats among Winona's Finest. _________


I believe this was the largest turnout in the past 10 years at least. Over 200 tent/campers, main tent full, north side outside of tent chairs at 90%, south side garage full, car parking in north cow pasture full, (some mud, 2 inches of rain during thursday night, and very wet previous couple weeks) and the south hay field was full.

A tall Priest was observed assisting an inexperienced young driver who was "buried" in the mud. His "old SSPX" prayers were soon rewarded by a tractor and 40 ft. of chain.      Novus Order catholic charity in action. Friendly people in Minnesota.


I'm thinking all the rain at a rather inconvenient time was a comment from Our Lord!
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Sienna629 on June 22, 2013, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: hugeman
:guitar:
Quote from: Kelley
Quote from: cath4ever
I did not see Fr. Hewko myself. However, I really don't know what he looks like all that well so I could have seen him and didn't know it.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Md3JTPc3sc0/UWR63FOX6MI/AAAAAAAAAjw/-nnKv_iIs-0/s1600/27+bis+-+Copie.jpg)

God bless Fr David Hewko.


All twelve new priests put together would have a tough time
standing head to head with this man. When the boys were at LaSalette Academy, Fr. Hewko
( the incomparable) came for a mission retreat for the students. During the week, he (fr. Hewko)
Related to the boys of a young fella in California who was having terrible
attacks by Satan; who was very sick and was vociferously denying his faith. Father
asked the LaSalette boys if they would not offer up all their prayers, works, studies, and
Sacrifices that week for this young man.

  The boys agreed. You can imagine, with Father Hewko intent on turning these
boys into Catholic men, they had plenty to offer up that week!
   Father soon left to return to his missions. A short time later. He wrote the boys,
giving them the good news: the young man's heart was converted, he asked for his priest
( of course traditional), received the sacraments of Holy Mother
The Church, and passed away. Deo Gratias! That's Father Hewko!
When you see him-- you'll know him. And then you'll know you have seen a true priest of
Jesus Christ

Ps: you can meet Fr. Hewko at the 25 th Anniversary Celebration
For Bishop Williamson this week in Vienna, Va. ( see www..com)
Website.Save the Catholic Faith! (http://Http://www..com)


GOD BLESS FR. HEWKO!!  

A few good priests like this are worth so much more than a whole congregation of the "others".
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Sienna629 on June 22, 2013, 10:13:39 AM
Quote from: eddiearent
I received a letter that Fr. de Chambord has left the SSPX. I always thought of him as being on "Bishop Fellay's side" and the letter really said much but not a lot if you get my drift. Fr. de Chambord was stationed in America since December 2012.


Do you know if he is leaning toward the Resistance?
Title: Ordinations tomorrow morning in Winona
Post by: Machabees on June 22, 2013, 11:20:37 PM
Quote from: sea leopard
           ________FACT_________

Fr. Hewko flew in from Our Lady of Mount Carmel, and came to Winona, to be with his family,           NOT          to confront anyone.

He is a Catholic Priest, par excellence.

He stayed by himself at a "low profile" motel on the east end of town.

At Thursday night dinner, with his family, he was told "he should NOT be on the cemetery (seminary) grounds.  (Editorial License - I play with words.)

The source is the  '"BOSS"' and the ramifications for a new Priest are obvious to all who have been aware of the    SSPX  rebranding,    change of direction.

Therefore, the BEST Fr. could do, was pray his Breviary, parked on a PUBLIC road at the same elevation (actually higher) a very short distance away, (feet, not miles) during the ordination of his nephew.

Catholic charity at its' finest!!!!! (my pejorative  comment to this otherwise factual reporting)


___________Was the parking of a Winona County Sheriffs' car at the entrance to the cemetery, I mean seminary, supposed to imply something. No Tradcats among Winona's Finest. _________


I believe this was the largest turnout in the past 10 years at least. Over 200 tent/campers, main tent full, north side outside of tent chairs at 90%, south side garage full, car parking in north cow pasture full, (some mud, 2 inches of rain during thursday night, and very wet previous couple weeks) and the south hay field was full.

A tall Priest was observed assisting an inexperienced young driver who was "buried" in the mud. His "old SSPX" prayers were soon rewarded by a tractor and 40 ft. of chain.      Novus Order catholic charity in action. Friendly people in Minnesota.


So much for the "profound unity" Fr. Rostand wants us to believe that is in the SSPX.  This is really how they take care of their Priests?  Our Lord was cast out also...

Remember, Fr. Hewko is still a SSPX priest that has NOT been expelled; and this is the way they treat him none the less.  Yes, he did receive the "warnings".  However, he is still "officially" on the U.S. District's roster.

In addition, it is almost 1-year now that Fr. Hewko has been on Sabbatical.  When that 1-year is up (I do not know the date), he is "expected" to return to Fr. Rostand's bidding.  We will see how that turns out...