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Offline John Grace

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« on: June 29, 2012, 08:12:29 AM »
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  • Shamus has posted this on Ignis Ardens
    http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=10020&st=25
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    There are lots of photos on La Porte Latine here:
    http://www.laportelatine.org/accueil/accueil.php

    Note presence of Rev Pères Antoine and Jean-Joseph OFM and three Dominican fathers from Avrillé.
    Note absence of His Excellence Bishop Williamson.
    A snippet from the homily:
    "Même si nous devons souffrir avec la Rome actuelle il ne faut pas renoncer à Rome, tête de l’Eglise. Il ne faut pas se laisser dégoûter par tout ce qui se passe au point de tout envoyer promener si j’ose dire"
    "Even if we have to suffer with today's Rome, we mustn't renounce Rome, head of the Church. We mustn't allow ourselves to become disgusted with everything that happens to the point of throwing in the towel so to speak"
    Bp Fellay


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    « Reply #1 on: June 29, 2012, 09:55:07 AM »
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    "Even if we have to suffer with today's Rome,


    Oh boy... We've been suffering with Conciliar Rome for decades so I don't know what's with this talking...

     
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    we mustn't renounce Rome, head of the Church.


    We have NEVER renounced Rome as head of the Church so I don't know what's with this talking...

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    We mustn't allow ourselves to become disgusted with everything that happens to the point of throwing in the towel so to speak"


    How about being disgusted by you throwing in the towel?


    Listen people, +Fellay is GONE, GONE, GONE!!!


    Wake up because absolutely NOTHING he says or does is "yes, yes - no, no" any longer and this is typical modernist language.


    Non Habemus Papam


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    « Reply #2 on: June 29, 2012, 10:08:08 AM »
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    Listen people, +Fellay is GONE, GONE, GONE!!!


    Good riddance to him.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 29, 2012, 10:36:46 AM »
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  • "+Fellay is GONE, GONE, GONE!!!"

    From your lips to God's ears.  May it be so ...

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    « Reply #4 on: June 29, 2012, 12:25:48 PM »
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  • This will go down in Church history as the lousy "Ping Pong Sermon" from an SSPX bishop. How can this even compare to Bp. Tissier's sermon in Winona? Heaven help us! :faint:


    http://sspx.org/news/econe_ordinations_2012/econe_ordinations_2012.htm#sermon

    Translated extracts of Bishop Fellay's sermon
    hear entire sermon in French at DICI >

    And when we celebrate this Feast of St. Peter and St. Paul, we cannot not think of Rome. And we cannot forget this love that our founder had for Rome, and that he wished and that he wanted to inculcate in his children. We are Roman! And this we cannot put behind us! Even if we live in difficult times, even if we have to suffer from the Rome of today, this cannot at all weaken this true, effective and affectionate love for Rome, because it was the good God the one who chose this City to be the head of the Church. This does not mean that we will love the errors, certainly not, we suffer them. But one cannot let oneself, we can say, be put off by what is happening, at the point of giving up. No, it is necessary to maintain, which is what we try to do.

    Certainly, you ask of me, "What is happening with Rome?" If up to now we have said almost nothing, it is because we do not have much to tell you. Up to now, things are at a stage, we can say, of a full stop. In the sense that there have been tos and fros, there have been exchanges, effectively, dealings, proposals, but we are at the point of departure. The point of departure in which we had said not being able to accept, not being able to sign. We are there, that is all. We see, on one hand, this situation getting complicated, it has been two, three years I have said before, in Rome, before the contradiction.

    Since 2009, I have said it, and I repeat it, and well that takes place every day. It is the state of the Church, what do you want? There are those who try, who wish to move further, we can say, on Progressivism and on the consequences of Progressivism. There are others who wish corrections to take place. And we, in the middle, we have become as a ping-pong ball, that everyone hits.

    We know that in the end, in the end, the Church will find herself again, and to us belongs this yearning of not being satisfied with a certain, let us say, comfort. With a situation that is simply not normal. We cannot become in the end used [to it], because we are in a situation in which we do whatever we want, to consider the state in which we find ourselves as normal. This isn't true. Simply not true. It is normal that we seek, with respect for all conditions that are necessary, evidently, to recover this title, that is ours, to which we have a right, of Catholics. This doesn't mean that we must place ourselves simply in the hands of the Modernists, this has nothing to do with it.

    But it is a difficult situation, difficult, everything seems electric, we see clearly that the devil runs unchained on all sides. And therefore, this is the time for prayer. It is a difficult moment. For us, about us, all sorts of things are said. Dear God, the only thing we wish for is to make God's will, that is all. The will of God is expressed in facts.... It is also clear that we cannot bring good to all the Church than by remaining faithful to this heritage of the Archbishop. From which come these famous, I don't know, "conditions", "assurances", that we have presented several times, that must ensure that the Society will remain what it is. If, at a certain time, a collaboration is conceivable, when, how, well the circuмstances will show it.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 30, 2012, 09:23:33 AM »
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  • This video has been uploaded to YouTube.

    Free His Excellency Bishop Williamson

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    « Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 10:03:23 AM »
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  • Quote from: Zorayda
    This will go down in Church history as the lousy "Ping Pong Sermon" from an SSPX bishop. How can this even compare to Bp. Tissier's sermon in Winona? Heaven help us! :faint:


    http://sspx.org/news/econe_ordinations_2012/econe_ordinations_2012.htm#sermon

    Translated extracts of Bishop Fellay's sermon
    hear entire sermon in French at DICI >

    And when we celebrate this Feast of St. Peter and St. Paul, we cannot not think of Rome. And we cannot forget this love that our founder had for Rome, and that he wished and that he wanted to inculcate in his children. We are Roman! And this we cannot put behind us! Even if we live in difficult times, even if we have to suffer from the Rome of today, this cannot at all weaken this true, effective and affectionate love for Rome, because it was the good God the one who chose this City to be the head of the Church. This does not mean that we will love the errors, certainly not, we suffer them. But one cannot let oneself, we can say, be put off by what is happening, at the point of giving up. No, it is necessary to maintain, which is what we try to do.

    Certainly, you ask of me, "What is happening with Rome?" If up to now we have said almost nothing, it is because we do not have much to tell you. Up to now, things are at a stage, we can say, of a full stop. In the sense that there have been tos and fros, there have been exchanges, effectively, dealings, proposals, but we are at the point of departure. The point of departure in which we had said not being able to accept, not being able to sign. We are there, that is all. We see, on one hand, this situation getting complicated, it has been two, three years I have said before, in Rome, before the contradiction.

    Since 2009, I have said it, and I repeat it, and well that takes place every day. It is the state of the Church, what do you want? There are those who try, who wish to move further, we can say, on Progressivism and on the consequences of Progressivism. There are others who wish corrections to take place. And we, in the middle, we have become as a ping-pong ball, that everyone hits.

    We know that in the end, in the end, the Church will find herself again, and to us belongs this yearning of not being satisfied with a certain, let us say, comfort. With a situation that is simply not normal. We cannot become in the end used [to it], because we are in a situation in which we do whatever we want, to consider the state in which we find ourselves as normal. This isn't true. Simply not true. It is normal that we seek, with respect for all conditions that are necessary, evidently, to recover this title, that is ours, to which we have a right, of Catholics. This doesn't mean that we must place ourselves simply in the hands of the Modernists, this has nothing to do with it.

    But it is a difficult situation, difficult, everything seems electric, we see clearly that the devil runs unchained on all sides. And therefore, this is the time for prayer. It is a difficult moment. For us, about us, all sorts of things are said. Dear God, the only thing we wish for is to make God's will, that is all. The will of God is expressed in facts.... It is also clear that we cannot bring good to all the Church than by remaining faithful to this heritage of the Archbishop. From which come these famous, I don't know, "conditions", "assurances", that we have presented several times, that must ensure that the Society will remain what it is. If, at a certain time, a collaboration is conceivable, when, how, well the circuмstances will show it.




    It could be known as the, "we see clearly that the devil runs unchained on all sides" sermon.


    Have you ever heard +Fellay say that "we see (something) clearly" before?


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