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Ordination in Brazil
« on: December 01, 2017, 10:46:40 PM »
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  • Deacon Rodrigo Ribeiro (known in Brazil as Br. Miguel) will be ordained a priest for the FSAJM by Bishop Williamson in Brazil on the 23rd of this month. 

    He's a very down to earth guy and will be a courageous priest, I'm sure. The flier (in Portuguese) shows his priestly coat of arms in the backdrop.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some cerem

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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #1 on: December 02, 2017, 10:04:23 AM »
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  • I’ve never heard of a priestly coat of arms.  Can someone elaborate on this?


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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #2 on: December 02, 2017, 10:05:31 AM »
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  • Deacon Rodrigo Ribeiro (known in Brazil as Br. Miguel) will be ordained a priest for the FSAJM by Bishop Williamson in Brazil on the 23rd of this month.

    He's a very down to earth guy and will be a courageous priest, I'm sure. The flier (in Portuguese) shows his priestly coat of arms in the backdrop.
    Fantastic news!
    I have posted your notice.
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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #3 on: December 02, 2017, 10:09:55 AM »
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  • I’ve never heard of a priestly coat of arms.  Can someone elaborate on this?
    Definitely not my forte, but this interesting blog contains all kinds of info on priestly heraldry and coats of arms:

    https://exarandorum.wordpress.com/category/priests/

    Given the mission statement of the blog, I would consider it is probably a pretty reliable source:

    "An American Roman Catholic priest blogs about his interest in all things heraldic and his special area of interest: ecclesiastical heraldry. A particular emphasis is given to Roman Catholic Church heraldry."
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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #4 on: December 02, 2017, 11:51:51 AM »
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  • Does someone know when Br. Miguel entered the seminary ?


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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #5 on: December 02, 2017, 02:31:55 PM »
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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #6 on: December 02, 2017, 10:00:08 PM »
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  • Deacon Rodrigo Ribeiro (known in Brazil as Br. Miguel) will be ordained a priest for the FSAJM by Bishop Williamson in Brazil on the 23rd of this month.

    He's a very down to earth guy and will be a courageous priest, I'm sure. The flier (in Portuguese) shows his priestly coat of arms in the backdrop.
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    So where is the FSAJM seminary? Anything to do with Bishop Tomas de Aquino in Nova Friburgo?
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    I don't see his name anywhere. What am I missing? If there's going to be 2 bishops........?
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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #7 on: December 02, 2017, 10:25:18 PM »
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    So where is the FSAJM seminary? Anything to do with Bishop Tomas de Aquino in Nova Friburgo?
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    I don't see his name anywhere. What am I missing? If there's going to be 2 bishops........?
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    I was initially confused by this FSAJM acronym as well, but I am pretty sure it is just the fuller/proper acronym for the more commonly used SAJM (i.e., the "F" being added in for "Priestly FRATERNITY of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary"), in which case Rev. Ribeiro would be at the SAJM Seminary near Avrille, France.
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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #8 on: December 02, 2017, 10:30:24 PM »
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  • I was initially confused by this FSAJM acronym as well, but I am pretty sure it is just the fuller/proper acronym for the more commonly used SAJM (i.e., the "F" being added in for "Priestly FRATERNITY of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary"), in which case Rev. Ribeiro would be at the SAJM Seminary near Avrille, France.
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    Click on the announcement in the OP and see it mentions Nova Friburgo, Brazil, and it's in Portuguese.
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    I thought that was a startup seminary too.
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    Perhaps the Portuguese version adds the "F" in front, too, like the French version does?
    (Portugal and France are neighbors, you know.)
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    But that's where Bishop Tomas de Aquino lives. Why would his name be absent from all this?
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    I don't get it.
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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #9 on: December 02, 2017, 10:40:17 PM »
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    Click on the announcement in the OP and see it mentions Nova Friburgo, Brazil, and it's in Portuguese.
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    I thought that was a startup seminary too.
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    Perhaps the Portuguese version adds the "F" in front, too, like the French version does?
    (Portugal and France are neighbors, you know.)
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    But that's where Bishop Tomas de Aquino lives. Why would his name be absent from all this?
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    I don't get it.
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    Just my guess, but Bishop Thomas Aquinas (who ordained Rev. Ribeiro to the diaconate a few weeks ago in Brazil) is not mentioned because:

    1) He is not the ordaining bishop;

    2) Rev. Ribeiro is -apparently- not a Benedictine, but an SAJM'er.

    I say apparently, because I am still a bit confused about why the OP mentioned that Rev. Ribeiro was known in Brazil as "Brother" (which would imply he was a Benedictine, in which case, he would not be canonically eligible to enter/join the SAJM).

    Total speculation, but perhaps he completed his temporary vows, and decided the secular priesthood was more his vocation??

    As for where he did his seminary formation, I have no information, but once again, the "Brother" reference makes me think he did most (or all?) of his formation in Brazil, as I do not see his pic on any of the SAJM posts from their seminary website from last year.

    I suspect Centroamerica can clear this all up, but not sure how often he is online these days, so...
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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #10 on: December 02, 2017, 10:50:46 PM »
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    Okay. Thanks, Mr. Johnson. I'll be happy to wait...............  8)
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    Re: Ordination in Brazil
    « Reply #11 on: December 03, 2017, 03:14:15 AM »
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  • Right. I am offline quite a bit. I actually deleted a brief summary from the original post because it didn't seem necessary. I guess I should clear up a bit about what could be public info anyway.

    Bro. Miguel preferred to be a secular priest. He told me this a couple years back. I asked him about being a Dominican priest when he came to visit Brazil from France for the episcopal consecration of Bishop Thomas Aquinas. It was lent so I had no whiskey to offer him. Anyway, he left a Brazilian Novus Ordo seminary in his home state of Northern Brazil after contacting Campos and being turned down probably because of Campos wanting to maintain good relations with Newchurch masons. He called the then Fr. Thomas Aquinas who advised him to come to Nova Friburgo. There he did wear the Benedictine habit at first and was known as Bro. Miguel but never took perpetual vows, I'm assuming. He was at my wedding 3 years ago and that's where I first really got to know him. When I heard that Bishop Williamson heard him speaking to the faithful (around the time of Bishop Faure's consecration) and commented that he thought him to be a good candidate to be ordained soon, Bishop Williamson happened to be nearby so I let him know I agreed as well. So, to answer the question, he was in France studying under the Dominicans with Bishop Faure for a year and a half or so and came back to finish his studies in Brazil after that.

    Brazil really needs Traditional priests. Besides Campos being total and complete sell outs to the fight for the faith, they operate mostly only in one diocese with a few rare missions. The Society is positioned mostly around Sao Paulo in the far southern part of the country with a priory also in Campos and a mission there as well. The real priests traveling all over many parts of Brazil to bring the Mass and sacraments to the Faithful have been the Resistance priests, i.e. the Benedictines (1 priest and 1 bishop) and the FBMV (2 priests).

    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some cerem

     

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