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I'm not sure what the third question means, but to the first two, Bishop Fellay has no jurisdiction so he could not forbid any laity to do any of those things.  He could forbid other members of the Society and possibly TO members with his dominative power, though.  

I'm not sure what the third question means, but to the first two, Bishop Fellay has no jurisdiction so he could not forbid any laity to do any of those things.  He could forbid other members of the Society and possibly TO members with his dominative power, though.  

I'm pleased to see the CI members are not deluded.  Thank you, Mithrandylan.

As for the "third question," I take it you mean this:  "By what right can they demand that an allied religious order exclude you from the Third Order?"

I'm not sure, but I suspect they meant to say "their Third Order," as follows: By what right can the SSPX make a demand on an allied religious order for them to exclude you from their Third Order?  

It is all under the question of Ordinary Jurisdiction, of which +F has NONE.  This article and other events are going to prove my long-held hypothesis that the coveting of jurisdiction is +F's motivation in most everything he does, that he is greedy and he wants MORE power.  


Here is more from the article on this:  


A Supplied Jurisdiction...

The Compendium of Moral Theology of St. Alphonsus Ligouri says (T II, § 612, p. 362) :

"Penalties cannot be applied to non-believers, nor to persons over which one does not have jurisdiction."

(French: « La censure ne peut être portée contre les infidèles, ni contre les personnes sur lesquelles on n’a pas de juridiction ». (Fr. Joseph Frassinetti, prior of Sainte Sabine à Gênes, Tomes I & II translated into French by Fr. P. Fourez STL, 1889)


But we know that the conciliar church refuses any jurisdiction to the SSPX. Bishop Fellay's power of jurisdiction therefore does not come from the Vatican. Bishop Fellay and his priests do not exercise any "ordinary jurisdiction" but a "supplied jurisdiction"  which is "an emergency jurisdiction given by the law to every bishop and every priest in case of necessity, for the common good, when he has not received from the authorities the necessary powers." ('Sel de a Terre' 87 pp.139-140)

    "However, it must be borne in mind that an authority which is supplied does not have the same characteristics as authority which exists ordinarily in the Church. It is exercised case-by-case, and is thus not habitual: in other words the people who benefit from it can always withdraw from it, and the supplied authority has no power to make them return. It is dependent on the  need of the faithful, given the state of crisis. To the extent that the faithful need these bishops or priests for the salvation of their souls, the Church creates this link of authority between them. All of that shows that supplied jurisdiction gives a limited authority which has to be exercised rather delicately. The jurisdictional authority of a bishop, coming not from a Roman nomination but from the necessity of the salvation of souls, must be exercised with an especial delicacy." (Archbishop Lefebvre, note of 20th Feb. 1990, quoted in 'Sel de la Terre.')

At the Mass in Lille, in 1976, Archbishop Lefebvre declared very clearly: "They say that I am the leader of Tradition. I am not the leader of anything at all." ["On dit que je suis le chef de file de la tradition. Je ne suis le chef de file de rien du tout." ] To think that his jurisdiction was ordinary when really it is only supplied jurisdiction would be: "...to found our apostolate on a false and illusory basis."  (Extract from a letter of Abp. Lefebvre, quoted by Fr. Pivert in the book "Archbishop Lefebvre's Consecrations... a Schism?" Fideliter 1988, pp.55-60).


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