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« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2013, 12:43:31 AM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: Matto
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I have been counseled by Fr. Hewko, for what its worth, to continue to attend SSPX chapels for the time being, until the Doctrinal Preamble becomes official policy.


I am glad to hear the good priest's recommendation.


Thats kind of strange, because Fr Pfeiffer said not to attend Una cuм masses of the SSPX.   Fr Hewko also told my friend here when he visited, that attending  neo SSPX masses is like stepping into quicksand.  



Are you saying that Fr. Pfeiffer is sedevacantist???

It would certainly be news to any at our resistance center that Fr. Pfeiffer does not say "una cuм."


Im not saying that at all.  I didnt say that HE didnt say the UNA cuм mass.  I said that he told the faithful not to attend the UNA cuм masses.  

He gave a talk a while back about that.  He and Fr Hewko asked the resistence members in our area not to attend the Neo SSPX masses.

Orange Light?
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2013, 09:35:42 AM »
Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: Matto
Quote from: s2srea
I have been counseled by Fr. Hewko, for what its worth, to continue to attend SSPX chapels for the time being, until the Doctrinal Preamble becomes official policy.


I am glad to hear the good priest's recommendation.


Thats kind of strange, because Fr Pfeiffer said not to attend Una cuм masses of the SSPX.   Fr Hewko also told my friend here when he visited, that attending  neo SSPX masses is like stepping into quicksand.  



Are you saying that Fr. Pfeiffer is sedevacantist???

It would certainly be news to any at our resistance center that Fr. Pfeiffer does not say "una cuм."


Im not saying that at all.  I didnt say that HE didnt say the UNA cuм mass.  I said that he told the faithful not to attend the UNA cuм masses.  

He gave a talk a while back about that.  He and Fr Hewko asked the resistence members in our area not to attend the Neo SSPX masses.


So tell me f I am understanding correctly:

1) Fr Pfeiffer says "una cuм"

2) But he told faithful they should not attend "una cuм" Masses?

3) Therefore, he is telling faithful not to attend his own Masses???


Orange Light?
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2013, 01:19:55 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: Matto
Quote from: s2srea
I have been counseled by Fr. Hewko, for what its worth, to continue to attend SSPX chapels for the time being, until the Doctrinal Preamble becomes official policy.


I am glad to hear the good priest's recommendation.


Thats kind of strange, because Fr Pfeiffer said not to attend Una cuм masses of the SSPX.   Fr Hewko also told my friend here when he visited, that attending  neo SSPX masses is like stepping into quicksand.  



Are you saying that Fr. Pfeiffer is sedevacantist???

It would certainly be news to any at our resistance center that Fr. Pfeiffer does not say "una cuм."


Im not saying that at all.  I didnt say that HE didnt say the UNA cuм mass.  I said that he told the faithful not to attend the UNA cuм masses.  

He gave a talk a while back about that.  He and Fr Hewko asked the resistence members in our area not to attend the Neo SSPX masses.


So tell me f I am understanding correctly:

1) Fr Pfeiffer says "una cuм"

2) But he told faithful they should not attend "una cuм" Masses?

3) Therefore, he is telling faithful not to attend his own Masses???



Twist and contort!
 :mad:

There are many priests in the SSPX that DO NOT SAY  the UNA cuм.  There always have been.  Priests do not really reveal if the are  inserting the name of the "pope" into the mass
FYI, there are priests  in the SSPX that hold a  secret sedevacantist stand.  There have always been priests  in the SSPX that have converted to the sedevacantist stand.  Many of them have left the society.  

Please take my comments and do your own research.
There were some articles on this forum about Fr Pfeiffer saying not to attend Una cuм Masses.  If anyone can find these articles, please post them on this thread.
I really dont have time to do research.
The purpose of my post was to show the contradictions.  Fr Hewko says one thing, and then says another.  Fr Pfeiffer saays dont attend the Neo SSPX masses.  I dont know if he  is now advising the faithful privately to attend the Neo SSPX, like Fr Hewko apparently is.  I know first hand that Fr Hewko advised my friend to stay away from the Neo SSPX.

Perhaps , Sean, you can ask these priests personally if they use the UNA cuм in their masses.  

Orange Light?
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2013, 01:26:29 PM »
Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: SeanJohnson
Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: Matto
Quote from: s2srea
I have been counseled by Fr. Hewko, for what its worth, to continue to attend SSPX chapels for the time being, until the Doctrinal Preamble becomes official policy.


I am glad to hear the good priest's recommendation.


Thats kind of strange, because Fr Pfeiffer said not to attend Una cuм masses of the SSPX.   Fr Hewko also told my friend here when he visited, that attending  neo SSPX masses is like stepping into quicksand.  



Are you saying that Fr. Pfeiffer is sedevacantist???

It would certainly be news to any at our resistance center that Fr. Pfeiffer does not say "una cuм."


Im not saying that at all.  I didnt say that HE didnt say the UNA cuм mass.  I said that he told the faithful not to attend the UNA cuм masses.  

He gave a talk a while back about that.  He and Fr Hewko asked the resistence members in our area not to attend the Neo SSPX masses.


So tell me f I am understanding correctly:

1) Fr Pfeiffer says "una cuм"

2) But he told faithful they should not attend "una cuм" Masses?

3) Therefore, he is telling faithful not to attend his own Masses???



Twist and contort!
 :mad:

There are many priests in the SSPX that DO NOT SAY  the UNA cuм.  There always have been.  Priests do not really reveal if the are  inserting the name of the "pope" into the mass
FYI, there are priests  in the SSPX that hold a  secret sedevacantist stand.  There have always been priests  in the SSPX that have converted to the sedevacantist stand.  Many of them have left the society.  

Please take my comments and do your own research.
There were some articles on this forum about Fr Pfeiffer saying not to attend Una cuм Masses.  If anyone can find these articles, please post them on this thread.
I really dont have time to do research.
The purpose of my post was to show the contradictions.  Fr Hewko says one thing, and then says another.  Fr Pfeiffer saays dont attend the Neo SSPX masses.  I dont know if he  is now advising the faithful privately to attend the Neo SSPX, like Fr Hewko apparently is.  I know first hand that Fr Hewko advised my friend to stay away from the Neo SSPX.

Perhaps , Sean, you can ask these priests personally if they use the UNA cuм in their masses.  


Emerentiana-

I wasn't trying to twist/contort.

Just wasn't understanding.

Pax

Orange Light?
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2013, 01:27:27 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson
All that said, I guess I am kind of asking the same question as you, in a different way:

Does the refusal of SSPX pastors to warn the faithful about the poison contained in Bishop Fellay's acceptance of the hermeneutic of continuity (i.e, his acceptance of V2) mean we can no longer attend such chapels, since by analogy it amounts to the same omission as indult priests to warn against the poison of V2?

In good faith, I do not know what the answer is.

In time all things become clear.

Sean Johnson,
   This is a great question; and the answer also provides an insight
into Father Hewko's advice to several posters to " continue in your SSPX
Chapel, until you get a resistance chapel going."
   There was no single morning during which Bishop Williamson,
Fathers Chazal, Pfeiffer, Hewko, Basilio, Don Thomas, et al  all woke
up and came to the same conclusion. You can , however, be sure Fathers Hewko, Pfeiffer
and Chazal did not teach heresy the day, of even in The weeks before,
they finally stood up and decided that "enough is enough!"
    Each priest came at a slightly different time, to the realization that,
based on all the evidence they then had, it is NOW time to resist.
     There are, please God, many more such priests still in the SSPX
who are nearing that decision point. Some of the posters  here may be attending the
Masses of these priests. As long as they are npot preaching heresy, and openly
supporting the leftist reunification with Rome, it may be very
possible to still receive valid sacraments from them. Of course, your financial support
should go to the priests and Bishop of The resistance-- giving the local parish what is
only absolutely necessary to support faithful priests.
    We recall that the Saint Help Save SSPX! says Christians are identified by the way we live. Do we just dessert our brothers in the faith--just at the time they need the truth? Just at the point they
are  beginning to awaken from their slumber? Just at the time they are realizing that, in Bp. Fellay's new world, 2 + 2  do not equal 4; rather they equal whatever is expedient to get recognition,and, of course, more money?
    The answer is slightly different for each of us. If you can remain strong in your faith, and not fall prey to the sneaky hidden messages in the accordistas such as a Fr. LeRoux, a Fr. Robinson, a Fr. Anglase,  or a Fr. Rostand, and you can help others wake up-- then that's your job!
      If the brainwashing is too intense , or everybody  in your chapel is so duped that they are forever lost (i.e.they actively want an association with the false perverts in Rome),and you have a valid Mass to attend elsewhere, then that's your job.