LPL: The media is talking a lot about the Catholic Church’s Synod. What should we think about it? What should we expect?

Bishop Fellay: There is nothing to expect. There is no need to wait. The direction has been given, and it is clear. We must simply say: it is clear. It is obvious that they wish to trivialize the situation of those who live in adultery, truly in a state of sin. They wish to trivialize it, and that is very, very, very serious. When we play with morality, we are playing with God’s commandments. To have dared, for two weeks, to leave up to opinion questions that leave no room for opinion! It is God’s word. All we have to say is “Amen.” We must, of course, think about how to help these people; we must always think about that. But we certainly do not help them by telling them there is an open door when there is none. The door that is being opened is a door to hell! These prelates who have received the power of the keys, that is, of opening the gates of Heaven, are closing them, and opening the gates of hell. It is unbelievable! It is crazy! Absolutely crazy! And as I said, the direction has been laid out. It is true that this synod was not supposed to make a decision; it was supposed to be a first step, but the first steps have been taken, the direction has been laid out, and it is not hard to guess what the following synod will do. Unless there is a much stronger reaction than the one we see today, and unfortunately, I doubt that there will be. Alas, there will not be!

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So why does he still pursue union with Rome?  He acknowledges that they are "crazy" and that the synod was only the first step, and he sees where it is leading so how can he defend his position to "return" to Rome?

Marsha

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LPL: The media is talking a lot about the Catholic Church’s Synod. What should we think about it? What should we expect?

Bishop Fellay: There is nothing to expect. There is no need to wait. The direction has been given, and it is clear. We must simply say: it is clear. It is obvious that they wish to trivialize the situation of those who live in adultery, truly in a state of sin. They wish to trivialize it, and that is very, very, very serious. When we play with morality, we are playing with God’s commandments. To have dared, for two weeks, to leave up to opinion questions that leave no room for opinion! It is God’s word. All we have to say is “Amen.” We must, of course, think about how to help these people; we must always think about that. But we certainly do not help them by telling them there is an open door when there is none. The door that is being opened is a door to hell! These prelates who have received the power of the keys, that is, of opening the gates of Heaven, are closing them, and opening the gates of hell. It is unbelievable! It is crazy! Absolutely crazy! And as I said, the direction has been laid out. It is true that this synod was not supposed to make a decision; it was supposed to be a first step, but the first steps have been taken, the direction has been laid out, and it is not hard to guess what the following synod will do. Unless there is a much stronger reaction than the one we see today, and unfortunately, I doubt that there will be. Alas, there will not be!

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So why does he still pursue union with Rome?  He acknowledges that they are "crazy" and that the synod was only the first step, and he sees where it is leading so how can he defend his position to "return" to Rome? Marsha

From what I have gathered is that the thinking in the SSPX today is that whatever the condition of the Church(?) may be, however bad, and whatever disciplines may be thrown out - eg. priestly celibacy/women priests - the SSPX must be inside the Church(?) in order to give profound witness to the Faith. (Or some such crap)

Even if it is the thinking of Bishop Fellay, it is not the thinking of the entire SSPX. The more outrageous the words and actions of the Pope become, the more certain it will be that the SSPX will not be able/willing to "join" neo-Christian Rome. If that is still the desire of the leadership, I can see no way that it will be able to make it happen.

God forbid. If there was ever a time to keep our distance, it is now!

He must think we are too stupid to understand that he says one thing and does another.

Marsha

You hit the nail on the head,Marsha.

Bp. Fellay, Fr.Rostand, Fr leRue, Fr.Schmidberger, Fr. Pflugger, Fr. Nely ("This train is going to Rome--if you don't want to go, get off!", etc. are all committed to getting back into this heretical sect in Rome. And they are adept at putting the sheep asleep "Don't worry-- only Bishop Fellay has the grace to decide these issues with the Romans."

  So, a statement like this from Bp. Fellay can only be taken in the wider context of his mission, as he promised (former pope) Benedict :"I will do every thing in my power to bring the SSPX back into Rome!"
  Therefore, this is simply a moral-indignation for the consumption of the SSPX faithful (eg:"please keep your donations coming--we're still traditional").

I just read the opening speech of Vatican 2 followed by Bishop Fellays Lourde's pilgrimage sermon. You could almost question if they have the same authors.

Why..... will they be allowed to vote...?

I certainly have pity on those who still attend the SSPX especially those with young children. I will pray for the priests, who played with the faith.

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He must think we are too stupid to understand that he says one thing and does another.

Marsha

He has no character. Years ago, I believe, Bishop Williamson called him a politician. Such people should not lead religious congregations and religious congregations should not tolerate such leaders. Some Society priests feel sure that he will not be elected for a THIRD twelve year term! But what if he is?. What does one call such an organization?

What good does it do your cause to say, "He has no character"?  I have no idea if you have spent enough time with the bishop, if you have been personally harmed by him, if you know him.  Or even if you are a resistance man-not familiar with your posting history.

But in response to a strong public statement by Bp. Fellay contra "Rome", the Synod, 'Opening the door to Hell' you say this?

People are disappointed because +W refuses to lead the resistance-do you not see the double mindedness of this?

 

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So why does he still pursue union with Rome? … how can he defend his position to "return" to Rome?

Because he knows he doesn't have the authority to declare Franciscus to be an Anti-Pope?

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He has no character. … Such people should not lead religious congregations and religious congregations should not tolerate such leaders.

What good does it do your cause to say, "He has no character"?  I have no idea if you have spent enough time with the bishop, if you have been personally harmed by him, if you know him. … But in response to a strong public statement by Bp. Fellay contra "Rome", the Synod, "Opening the door to Hell," you say this?

.... even the omniscient, omnicompetent commenters here at CathInfo....

Yes, sure. Elizabeth  4664 posts.Marlelar 1645 posts. Francisco 959 posts.
Claudel 861 posts.