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Well, St. Padre Pio kissed the Archbishop's ring, and remember he could read hearts, so he knew His Grace's heart was golden, otherwise he would not have done that. Which is good enough for me.

But, while we are all allowed, indeed obliged, to venerate and love and feel personally attached to those from whom we know we have received much, Thomas Kempis says this against disputing the relative merits of the Saints in heaven,

Quote from: Imitation of Christ

Do not dispute over the merits of the Saints, which is the holier, or which the greater in the Kingdom of Heaven. This often breeds strife and unprofitable arguments, (2 Tim.2:23) feeding pride and empty boasting, from which in turn spring envy and dissension, while one proudly seeks to praise this Saint, and another that. Now, this desire to know and explore such matters is unprofitable, and is displeasing to the Saints themselves.

Great quote, especially the bolded. The saints are in heaven and there more than ever do they know it is ALL. for. God. For His Glory and His Glory alone. Not only for Him but BY Him as well. They would take no personal credit and they would live the same trials over again even if they knew they would never be recognized. Our recognition here on earth means nothing to them if it is separated from bringing glory to God.

Having said that, sometimes arguments over the saints have some merit because their example directs us to heaven. If we are unsure of their sanctity, then we are unsure of whether to follow their examples. That's something that can affect us in our practice of the Faith. In our times, the sanctity or lack thereof of Archbishop Lefebvre and Pope John Paul II are two of the most pressing to figure out. Any combination of ABL = holy or not, JPII = holy or not, impacts many people in very profound ways. It isn't so much about the men themselves but about what they represented. It is worth debating even if a definitive answer is not to be known in our lifetimes. It's part of trying to migitate culpable ignorance about the Church crisis in our times, to the best of our ability of course.

I'm not even sure that he is a saint..

He was a great and holy leader

You're contradicting yourself and I believe you're not being honest here.

Why would it irritate you if someone believes ABL was a saint ?

It irritates me that some people think JPII was a saint, and I can explain to them why I think they are wrong.

But it does not irritate me if someone believes Joe Doe was a saint. He may well be one or not, I don't know him so I can't say.

I never knew the Archbishop myself, but I certainly lean towards the opinion that he was indeed a great saint. Not many 'great and holy' leaders would stand firm against all of Rome, even while being 'excommunicated'. He may not have been perfect, but it certainly took heroic virtue. If that is not reason for considering him a saint, then maybe you could show us your criteria (other than your pet miracle argument, which seems to be your only defense).

Again, why would it irritate you if someone believes ABL was a saint ?