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Open Letter To Fathers Pinaud, Salnave et Rioux
« on: March 08, 2013, 02:30:52 PM »
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  • An open letter of support from an former SSPX priest who is now independant in Brittany, France

    Original french, and the english translation

    Lettre ouverte à messieurs les abbés Pinaud, Salnave et Rioux.
     
    Votre « mise à pied » m’a été connue par Internet, tout comme la cause de votre sanction, votre lettre ouverte à Mgr Fellay. Je tenais à vous féliciter pour avoir (enfin) réagit aux mensonges et aux trahisons de ce prélat félon.
     
    Votre passage devant le « pseudo-tribunal » de cet évêque sans juridiction sera éventuellement pour vous l’occasion de témoigner de la Vérité et de la Foi en rejetant et condamnant avec force la secte  noachide qui occupe le Vatican.

    Treize ans après moi, vous serez « jugés » par les fils  spirituels d’Anne et de Caïphe.  Le 12 mars 2000, à la fin de la neuvaine de la grâce de saint François-Xavier, j’ai comparu par surprise devant le tribunal improvisé de Mgr Fellay, qui m’avait convié à une entrevue entre lui et moi. Finalement, je me suis retrouver devant trois prêtres plus Mgr Fellay. J’étais seul et sans avocat. Tout a été noté par le « greffier » improvisé qu’était M. l’abbé Loïc Duverger. Bien entendu, je n’ai jamais reçu aucune copie de cette  « audience ».  Si vous allez devant ce « tribunal », n’oubliez pas d’amener votre propre enregistreur. Après trois heures de discussion vaine, de guerre lasse, Mgr Fellay m’a proposé un « marché » qu’il vous proposera sans doute aussi.   « Restez dans la Fraternité Sacerdotale Saint Pie X tel que vous êtes en disant la messe « non una cum »  mais ne le dites jamais à personne ! » Voilà la droiture et l’honnêteté de cet évêque. Il propose à l’un de ses prêtres de vivre dans le mensonge permanent. Etonnez-vous ensuite qu’il mente aux uns et aux autres. Bien sûr, j’ai refusé ce marché infâme et j’ai quitté définitivement cette société de mensonge.

    Je vous encourage vivement à la quitter au plus vite. Ne tergiversez pas, il est déjà tard. La Vérité vous rendra libres, les fidèles vous en seront reconnaissants. Si vous ne savez où aller dans l’immédiat, je vous accueille chez moi en Bretagne, que vous connaissez si bien, le temps de vous organiser. Que votre exemple serve à réveiller les autres confrères et à raffermir les genoux chancelants !
     
    En union de prière avec saint François-Xavier
                                                         
    Abbé X. Grossin
    xavier.grossin@laposte.net



    Open letter to Fathers Pinaud, Salnave and Rioux.


    Your "suspension" was known to me by Internet, also with the cause of your penalty, your open letter to Bishop Fellay. I was anxious to congratulate you on having (finally) reacts to the lies and to the treasons of this perfidious prelate.

    Your passage in front of the "pseudo-court" of this Bishop without jurisdiction will possibly be for you the opportunity to testify for the Truth and the Faith by rejecting and by condemning with strength the noachide sect which occupies the Vatican.

    Thirteen years after me, you will be "judged" by the spiritual sons of Anne and Caïphe. March 12th, 2000, at the end of the novena of the grace of saint François-Xavier, I appeared by surprise in front of the court improvised by Bishop Fellay, who had invited me to an interview between him and me. Finally, I was in front of three priests plus Bishop Fellay. I was alone and without a lawyer. Everything was noted by the improvised "clerk of the court" whom was Father Loïc Duverger. Naturally, I have never received any copy of this "audience". If you go in front of this "court", do not forget to bring your own recorder. After three hours of vain discussions, tired war, Bishop Fellay proposed me a "deal" which he will offer you without a doubt. " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cum " but never say it to anybody! " Here is the righteousness and the honesty of this bishop. He suggests to one of his priests living in permanent lie. Wonder then that he lies to some and to the others. Of course, I refused this vile deal and I left definitively this society of lie.

    I deeply encourage you to leave it as quickly as possible. Do not delay, it is already late. The Truth will make you free, the faithful will be grateful to you for it. If you do not know where to go for the moment, I welcome you at with me in Brittany, which you know so well, the time to organize yourselves. That your example serves for waking your other colleagues and for firming up the shaky knees!


    In union of prayer with saint François-Xavier


    Father X. Grossin

    Xavier.grossin@laposte.net

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    Open Letter To Fathers Pinaud, Salnave et Rioux
    « Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 02:42:53 PM »
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  • This is very encouraging to see and definitely strengthens the Resistance!! Very good news for any of the 37 priests in need.

     :cheers:


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    « Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 03:49:04 PM »
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    After three hours of vain discussions, tired war, Bishop Fellay proposed me a "deal" which he will offer you without a doubt. " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cum " but never say it to anybody! "


    This coming from Bishop Fellay...is that a Catholic thing to do?

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    « Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 10:25:58 PM »
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  • Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does it mean? " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cum " but never say it to anybody! " I am pretty sure this is very relevant, but I don't understand what was being asked of the priest. Thanks

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    « Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 11:16:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does it mean? " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cum " but never say it to anybody! " I am pretty sure this is very relevant, but I don't understand what was being asked of the priest. Thanks


    BpF was asking Fr Grossin to keep his sedevacantism to himself - keep it private.


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    « Reply #5 on: March 09, 2013, 12:48:28 AM »
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    Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does it mean? " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cum " but never say it to anybody! " I am pretty sure this is very relevant, but I don't understand what was being asked of the priest. Thanks


    BpF was asking Fr Grossin to keep his sedevacantism to himself - keep it private.


    Ok, thanks for clarifying.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 09, 2013, 11:59:51 AM »
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    Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does it mean? " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cum " but never say it to anybody! " I am pretty sure this is very relevant, but I don't understand what was being asked of the priest. Thanks


    "Non una cum" means that this is a mass where the priests doesn't mention the name of the Pope, meaning: he is not united to him (because he considers him as a heretic). At the memento, just before consecrating, the priest says "una cum famulo tuo Papa Benedicto" or nothing for the sedevacantist priests.

    So, there are two masses: the masses "una cum" and the masses "non una cum". Officially the SSPX priests say "una cum" masses. I know that some of them don't, but in secret. This is not the official position of the SSPX, who considers the pope as pope.

    Regards.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 05:57:11 PM »
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  • very good


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    « Reply #8 on: March 12, 2013, 06:08:38 PM »
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  • The resistance is a noble and holy crusade. Other may disagree but I regard the resistance as being guided by God. The resistance is being built on a firm foundation.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 12, 2013, 11:27:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: vincent M
    Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does it mean? " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cum " but never say it to anybody! " I am pretty sure this is very relevant, but I don't understand what was being asked of the priest. Thanks


    "Non una cum" means that this is a mass where the priests doesn't mention the name of the Pope, meaning: he is not united to him (because he considers him as a heretic). At the memento, just before consecrating, the priest says "una cum famulo tuo Papa Benedicto" or nothing for the sedevacantist priests.

    So, there are two masses: the masses "una cum" and the masses "non una cum". Officially the SSPX priests say "una cum" masses. I know that some of them don't, but in secret. This is not the official position of the SSPX, who considers the pope as pope.

    Regards.



    This is true.  

    And furthermore, lest it be overlooked, in this current interregnum of sede
    vacante,  while there is no pope since Benedict XVI has abdicated (do not
    say he "resigned" because there is no power on earth to whom any pope
    can "resign" his papacy! only say "abdicated" or "renounced"), all of the
    Catholics in the diocese of Rome assist at "non una cum" Masses, for there
    is no Bishop of Rome and there is no Pope
    now, so the prayer before the
    consecration that says in union with the Pope, N., and the Bishop, N., is
    omitted entirely.  Elsewhere in the world, where there is still a local bishop,
    the prayer is said for the bishop alone, and the name of the pope is only
    omitted.

    Of course, sedevacantist Catholic priests and bishops do not pray for the local
    bishop nor for the pope, because they do not believe that there is one of either.
    They say that the papacy has been vacant for many years now, and that the
    consecration rite for bishops having been abolished in 1969 for no good
    reason (apparently - except for the BAD reason of destroying the Church),
    leaves the Church, therefore, with no ordinary bishops any more, as the
    validly consecrated ones are now either dead or no longer active.  Even
    Benedict XVI, erstwhile Fr. Joseph Ratzinger, was consecrated bishop after
    the new changes were made in 1969, and so these sedes claim he is not even
    a real bishop, so how could he have been "bishop of Rome?"



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