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Offline Incredulous

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Open Letter to Bp. Fellay
« on: September 12, 2012, 11:01:32 PM »
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  • From Ignis Ardens forum:



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    Holy Name of Mary

    Dear Bishop Fellay,

    For the greater glory of God, for the love of the Truth, for the good of the Church, for the widespread dissemination of charity, and for the salvation of souls, I ask you in all sincerity to please resign, immediately, from the office of Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X.

    Please, for the love of God and souls.

    Please.

    And I pray for you.

    In the Holy Family,
    Suzanne Romano
    Bardstown, Kentucky


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Open Letter to Bp. Fellay
    « Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 03:14:55 AM »
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  • Why not use his whole name, Bishop Bernard Fellay, SSPX?



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    Offline Incredulous

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    Open Letter to Bp. Fellay
    « Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 02:10:07 PM »
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  • Someone on the Ignis Ardens forum asked "Why?"

    Without going into the long list of reasons why Bp. Fellay should resign,
    can we not say:

    That when a Bishop calls for a Holy Rosary crusade and his faithful flock doubt his intentions, it means he's lost their spritual confidence and should promptly resign.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Open Letter to Bp. Fellay
    « Reply #3 on: September 13, 2012, 02:58:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
    Someone on the Ignis Ardens forum asked "Why?"

    Without going into the long list of reasons why Bp. Fellay should resign,
    can we not say:

    That when a Bishop calls for a Holy Rosary crusade and his faithful flock doubt his intentions, it means he's lost their spritual confidence and should promptly resign.


    Incredulous, I am incredulous.  You have now come out as a vile Liberal Catholic, if not a Masonic plant.

    +F is answerable to God, not to his flock, much less to the likely rather small percentage of his flock that has lost confidence in him.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 13, 2012, 05:23:05 PM »
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  •  :facepalm:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #5 on: September 13, 2012, 05:58:13 PM »
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  • Yes, Mr. McFarland, he is answerable to God.  As are we all.  Mothers and Fathers for their children, wives and husbands for their spouses, teachers for their students, presidents for their nations, priests for their flock, bishops for their priests, Superiors for the societies they govern, and the Pope for not just the Catholic world, but the entire world.  All are big responsibilities in that they pertain to our duty of state, and hence, our salvation.  It's just that some are responsible for a larger number of souls.  Now, pray tell, what gives you the right to judge Incredulous a freemason?  Who put you over her soul?
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    « Reply #6 on: September 13, 2012, 06:17:30 PM »
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  • of course bf is anserable to his flock, he didnt just sweep us up from the street, he inherited us..... and acceped responsibilty...  as a bishop should, that he has changed course, and the flock are in confusion...is down him.... he is answerable for us...

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    « Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 02:22:31 AM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
    From Ignis Ardens forum:

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    Holy Name of Mary

    Dear Bishop Fellay,

    For the greater glory of God, for the love of the Truth, for the good of the Church, for the widespread dissemination of charity, and for the salvation of souls, I ask you in all sincerity to please resign, immediately, from the office of Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X.

    Please, for the love of God and souls.

    Please.

    And I pray for you.

    In the Holy Family,
    Suzanne Romano
    Bardstown, Kentucky


    Well, the problem put in a nutshell!

    I think this is from the same lady who enriches Cathinfo since a few days with very traditional Catholic posts?


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    « Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 02:27:13 PM »
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  • Magdalena,

    The Mason "charge" was a joke in the service of making a serious point.  Incredulous' line of argument seems to assume that the view of the ruled has some dispositive role in what +F should do.  What Catholics believe is that authority comes from God.  In some cases (a nation like the U.S., for example) the people choose its leaders, and their representatives can remove those leaders from office.  Neither of these is the case regarding bishops.

    Of course, Incredulous is not the only American who confuses American and Catholic.  It is universal in the MO, and scandalously high among traditionalists.  It is particularly scandalously high among Fellayophobes, who tend to think that the truth is what most of them are yelling at any particular time.

    But while we're on the subject, how do many of the denizens of this site dare to say all kinds of awful things about Bishop Fellay without an ounce of credible evidence?

    P.S. Incredulous is a woman?  Again, I'm incredulous.  I'm not used to that level or style of vituperation among the daughters of Eve, and I've known some tough feminine cookies in my time.  But I suppose if a few woman can be accomplished drag racers, a few women can be accomplished Fellayophobe bomb-throwers.    

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    « Reply #9 on: September 14, 2012, 02:34:51 PM »
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  • thats nasty!

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    « Reply #10 on: September 14, 2012, 02:42:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: John McFarland
    But while we're on the subject, how do many of the denizens of this site dare to say all kinds of awful things about Bishop Fellay without an ounce of credible evidence?


    Hmmm, I won't bother to quote all the evidence (of record), but recently the resident "librarian" of the 'other' list compiled quite a stack. How ever did you manage to miss it all McFarland?

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    P.S. Incredulous is a woman?  Again, I'm incredulous.  I'm not used to that level or style of vituperation among the daughters of Eve, and I've known some tough feminine cookies in my time.  But I suppose if a few woman can be accomplished drag racers, a few women can be accomplished Fellayophobe bomb-throwers.

    Now that's just begging for it, and I know (of) just the person..... :popcorn:


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    « Reply #11 on: September 14, 2012, 03:01:17 PM »
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    « Reply #12 on: September 14, 2012, 04:22:43 PM »
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  • Quote from: ultrarigorist
    Quote from: John McFarland
    But while we're on the subject, how do many of the denizens of this site dare to say all kinds of awful things about Bishop Fellay without an ounce of credible evidence?


    Hmmm, I won't bother to quote all the evidence (of record), but recently the resident "librarian" of the 'other' list compiled quite a stack. How ever did you manage to miss it all McFarland?

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    P.S. Incredulous is a woman?  Again, I'm incredulous.  I'm not used to that level or style of vituperation among the daughters of Eve, and I've known some tough feminine cookies in my time.  But I suppose if a few woman can be accomplished drag racers, a few women can be accomplished Fellayophobe bomb-throwers.

    Now that's just begging for it, and I know (of) just the person..... :popcorn:


    As to Incredulous being a woman....  I have no idea what gender Incredulous is.  It was a mistake I made by looking at the signature on the letter Incredulous was quoting--if that makes any difference.  My apologies to Incredulous.  In addition, I don't see anything very vituperous (berating) or "bomb-throwing" about it.  But it's interesting that you do.    

     :popcorn:
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    « Reply #13 on: September 14, 2012, 06:37:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: magdalena
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    Quote from: John McFarland
    But while we're on the subject, how do many of the denizens of this site dare to say all kinds of awful things about Bishop Fellay without an ounce of credible evidence?


    Hmmm, I won't bother to quote all the evidence (of record), but recently the resident "librarian" of the 'other' list compiled quite a stack. How ever did you manage to miss it all McFarland?

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    P.S. Incredulous is a woman?  Again, I'm incredulous.  I'm not used to that level or style of vituperation among the daughters of Eve, and I've known some tough feminine cookies in my time.  But I suppose if a few woman can be accomplished drag racers, a few women can be accomplished Fellayophobe bomb-throwers.

    Now that's just begging for it, and I know (of) just the person..... :popcorn:


    As to Incredulous being a woman....  I have no idea what gender Incredulous is.  It was a mistake I made by looking at the signature on the letter Incredulous was quoting--if that makes any difference.  My apologies to Incredulous.  In addition, I don't see anything very vituperous (berating) or "bomb-throwing" about it.  But it's interesting that you do.    

     :popcorn:


    That's okay, Magdalena

    Hey, isn't Dr. John good fun ?

     :cheers:
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    « Reply #14 on: September 14, 2012, 06:49:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
    Quote from: magdalena
    Quote from: ultrarigorist
    Quote from: John McFarland
    But while we're on the subject, how do many of the denizens of this site dare to say all kinds of awful things about Bishop Fellay without an ounce of credible evidence?


    Hmmm, I won't bother to quote all the evidence (of record), but recently the resident "librarian" of the 'other' list compiled quite a stack. How ever did you manage to miss it all McFarland?

    Quote from: John McFarland
    P.S. Incredulous is a woman?  Again, I'm incredulous.  I'm not used to that level or style of vituperation among the daughters of Eve, and I've known some tough feminine cookies in my time.  But I suppose if a few woman can be accomplished drag racers, a few women can be accomplished Fellayophobe bomb-throwers.

    Now that's just begging for it, and I know (of) just the person..... :popcorn:


    As to Incredulous being a woman....  I have no idea what gender Incredulous is.  It was a mistake I made by looking at the signature on the letter Incredulous was quoting--if that makes any difference.  My apologies to Incredulous.  In addition, I don't see anything very vituperous (berating) or "bomb-throwing" about it.  But it's interesting that you do.    

     :popcorn:


    That's okay, Magdalena

    Hey, isn't Dr. John good fun ?

     :cheers:


    I'll think on that.  

     :geezer:

    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42