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  • Translation of Milene M. at SPES


    Dear SSPX priests,                                          

    It is not possible that you are not able to see what is going on. You have an intellectual and moral formation far superior to mine, you have been aware of the current crisis for much longer than myself, and your knowledge of Church Doctrine and all disciplines surrounding it far surpasses mine. Then how can I believe that you cannot see these repeated demonstrations of cynicism coming from your leaders, and their ever deeper dive into liberalism?  How can you still remain in your current passive state when you come across such wretched arguments and tactics as are used by them in their efforts to smother the overwhelming arguments coming from those who resist them? You cannot help seeing these acts because as a rule they remain shamelessly on view for weeks on the official sites of the Fraternity (another dirty tactic of theirs). It is not possible that you have not come across what has happened, and have not tried to understand it!

    Are you afraid of the problem? Is that what it is? Are you afraid of losing your daily sustenance? Of being without a place to sleep, or food to eat? Or are you afraid of being called deserters? Or are you afraid of losing the advantages that modern Rome has to offer, a loss which would be like the "crown" of all your sacrifices up till now? Or is it the fear that if you leave the Fraternity and then your leaders make an advantageous deal with the Vatican, you will be left nowhere? In such a case, do you really believe that the usual scenario of rejoining Rome, with its expulsions and other penalties to crush those who resist, can by itself yield good fruit? If so, it would be quite unlike what we have seen happen with every other group that made such an agreement!  Or perhaps it is the fear of being called "anti-Semitic" because of those notorious statements made by the bishop who was expelled from the Fraternity? If so, let me remind you that the number of victims usually upheld today corresponds to an early тαℓмυdic prophecy that supposedly indicates the arrival of the "Messianic Age". Now, do you believe in prophecies revealed to those who deny our Lord as Savior? Or in a simple coincidence of such magnitude? Above all, do you believe in such a figure when it interferes with the defense of Church Doctrine?

    What are you afraid of? Is your fear worth more than Heaven? Or you do not really believe there is a Heaven? Or are you afraid that the Holy Ghost is no longer active, or is doing nothing to support those who still want to uphold the Tradition of Holy Mother Church, or no longer wants to uphold Her?

    I am terrified because what I see out here is a boat being intentionally sunk by its captain and his henchmen who deny they are doing any such thing, while at the same time they claim to be a marvelous submerged city. Meanwhile the passengers huddled together look at one other with fear to jump into the sea and catch hold of the safety rafts and buoys before it is too late (as only a few have the courage to do). What are you waiting for? Are you waiting for the ship to sink before you will admit that it was sinking? Or are you waiting for it to sink to see if the wonderful submerged city actually exists (and of course it does not exist)?

    Dear priests, what is out there is no longer the work of Archbishop Lefebvre. Do not be afraid. If indeed it is no longer his work, step to one side, join together and rebuild! Our Lord provides, as He has provided countless times before. If you do not believe in Him, then leave religion to one side, take responsibility for your own life, and cease to harm the layfolk  and even the brothers and sisters who are insecure! But if you believe and love the Truth, take a stand. Right now! Your doing nothing makes you an accomplice, and you should not doubt that you will be held to account for it on the day of Judgment!

    Finally, for those who are openly participants of this whole scheme I have nothing to say except this: be ashamed of yourselves, and for the love of Christ the King convert before it is too late for yourselves.

    R. de Souza, an insignificant layman.

    Tradução de Milene M.
    Versão original em português: http://spessantotomas.blogspot.com.br/2013/03/carta-aberta-de-um-mero-fiel-perplexo.html


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    Open Letter from a perplexed layman to the priests of the SSPX
    « Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 08:08:11 PM »
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  • The letter of Cardozo from last year fits right into this thread as well.

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    Fr. Cardozo

    Open letter to my fellows priests, faithful and friends.


    Reading the letter of three Bishops of the Society to the General House and the response of this one by Bishop Fellay and his followers, (this letter has more or less the same mistakes that the ones expressed by Dom Gérard, Bishop Rifan and Father Muñoz) I want to express:


    1 º Our total adhesion to the SPPX and to his Founder and therefore my absolute support to the three Bishops who remain faithful to the work of Archbishop Lefebvre in whom I place my obedience.


    2 º My disregard for the authority of Bishop Fellay, due his obstinacy and deviation from the principles of the founder, and for all who share his position to hand over Rome; my rejection to the position of Bishop Fellay founded on his political views deviated from the “Yes, yes- no, no” of the Gospel and also deviated from the principles given by Archbishop Lefebvre.


    3 º Our absolute rejection to any agreement with the modernist Rome, at which this bishop, BF, is dragging us shamelessly in a ѕυιcιdє operation, ignoring the advice of:

    a) Our Fouder

    b): His three fellow Bishops.

    c) Several priests over the past few years, who objected with good reason the steps taken towards the communion with a church defined as "post-conciliar" and non-Catholic, who is the enemy of Our Lord and of his universal kingdom; and ended up expelled or resigned to avoid ending up in the unfortunate situation in which we are placed today.


    4 º For this reason, I make an appeal to the three bishops who remain faithful and have the authority bequeathed by the founder, to take charge of the fraternity to avoid dismantling and dispersal.

    5 ° I call upon the faithful members who still keep loyalty, faithfulness and obedience to our founder, to clearly and effectively support our three loyal bishops and remove the support to all the obsequious followers who have allowed with his consent, cooperation and silence the current state of things leading to the irremediable division of the Fraternity.


    Because we are confirmed, we are soldiers or Christ the King; we made the anti-modernist oath prior to our ordination, for not to end up in the perjury and apostasy, I urge everyone to take a tough stance on tradition, to direct our efforts to support the defense of the Society, safely boat in which many goals have been reached and in which we have survived the apostasy of our times, while waiting for a real and complete conversion of the Pope and the Eternal Rome.

    Confident in the consecration once made by our religious family to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, let’s fight with Her and for Her until the end, Amen.

    Father E.J.J.Cardozo

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Fr-Cardozo-open-letter-to-SSPX-priests-and-faithful

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    After this letter we have lost 2 bishops and the silence of many good priests are astonishing deafening.


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    « Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 08:26:57 PM »
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  • Fr. Thomas Aquinas

    So, to summarize I'd say that the priests should help the resistance, each one in your own manner but to help the resistance. Do it in a way you think it's most effectively,[but] serving with your own being. Coming to help the priest in the apostolate...

    But it seems to me the most importantly thing now is to teach the doctrine, making it clear that this new orientation of Bishop Fellay it's not in conformity with tradition.
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    Are the good priests of the SSPX teaching doctrine, condemning the current errors surrounding us (i.e. Vatican II, liberal popes, new orientation of Bp. Fellay) and serving with their own being on the resistance apostolate???

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    « Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 08:35:27 PM »
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  • An Open Letter from Fr. Hugo Ruiz Vallejo to the Faithful of Mexico City

    Original: Non Possumus


    Dear Friends in Christ,

    Some of you are already aware of my departure and my taking up residence here in St. Joseph's House, here in Mexico. In order to avoid any misunderstanding or perplexity on your part, it is not only important but also necessary for me to give you an explanation of the serious reasons which have created this necessity for me.

    Nobody from among you should be ignorant of the very serious motives which have guided what is known as the Traditional movement, present a the beginning in various parts of the world, but now principally in the Society of St. Pius X, the work of an exemplary Bishop, Abp. Marcel Lefebvre, who tried to save the values of the Catholic Church from the Modernist invasion which hit the Church of Christ, above all by that which we call Vatican II, and by all the reforms of the Church which this council caused. This attack provoked a totally legitimate defensive movement of faithful Catholics, a movement which is in itself very natural and necessary. The struggle, the war against the dotcrinal errors of the modern world which was waged by the Popes of the 18th, 19th and 20th Centuries, by Pope St. Pius X in particular, is the same one which we wished to take on and try to wage in our turn.

    Nonetheless, those Traditionalists in particular who have known the beginning of this fight are the ones to state that our superiors have lowered the tone of our demands and of our fight for the defence of the Faith. To begin with, it was argued that this was a means of converting Rome: not only the fact of no longer denouncing as strongly the deviations of Churchmen, but also a way of coming closer and closer to the official Church. The question is: is all this a proportionate means of converting Rome? Or is it a mere illusion? Can one convert someone to the truth by hiding that same truth? Can one convert someone by leaning in the direction of their errors and dialectic?

    With increasing concern, we see on the part of many SSPX priests and faithful, as well as allied religious orders, an omission which takes on ever greater and more misleading proportions. A silence which is more and more noticeable.

    The fact is that the Romans have renounced not one of their very serious errors of Vatican II, nor the New Mass (Novus Ordo Missae), nor any one of the reforms which are a consequence of this Council and which affect the life of the whole Church. Rome has merely made some concessions of a political nature to bring the Society closer, little concessions which are not sufficient to serve as proof that there has been a real change of direction in Rome, in other words in the direction of Tradition. Quite the contrary, we find in all these negotiations and dialoguing a diplomacy which is full of duplicity. We cannot base our important decisions solely on rumours or facts which comprise no proof at all of the churchmen's conversion.

    The fact is that, despite the famous failure of the doctrinal discussions, supposedly conducted in order to convert Rome, (and which remain unpublished to this day), we are still trying to go full steam ahead towards an agreement with Rome at any price, in extremely dangerous conditions. And to crown it all, there are already today those who think that the Society ought to make an agreement to submit Rome, whether or not Rome has converted! ("I would even say that, in front of this sublime reality, any talk of whether or not we have an agreement with Rome is a trifling matter... defending the Faith, keeping the Faith, dying in the Faith, that's what's important!"  - Bp. Fellay, Paris, 30th January, 2013) But perhaps we want to be dependent on those who do not have the same Catholic principles as us? Is it possible to have a good pastoral ministry without having good doctrine? Perhaps those who do not have sound doctrine could be in charge of the Traditionalist pastoral ministry? How can we understand one another regarding practice of the Faith if we do not have the same principles regarding Faith and Morals? Perhaps Francis, the new Pope, didn't begin his Pontificate by recommending a book by the heretic Kasper in his Urbi et Orbi in St. Peter's Square! And wouldn't it be a very pious idea to live in a cave with Ali Baba and the 40 thieves in order to convert Ali Baba and the 40 thieves...? A very pious idea, full of realism...!

    The conclusions of the Society's last General Chapter have only dramatically confirmed our fears, because in its official conclusion the leaders of the Society declared what will be the six conditions for us to accept an agreement with Rome or a 'regularisation' inside the Roman system. According to these, three are necessary, and the three others "desirable", which means that even if the Pope doesn't let us have them, we will still accept the "agreement". I might mention at this point that one of the "desirable" conditions isn't really a condition. Much could be said about these conditions, but the worst is to be found in the first of these three "desirable" conditions: the decisions of our ecclesiastical tribunals could be overturned by the tribunals of the conciliar Church; and with our agreement too! In other words, they with their modernist principles would make decisions affecting the pastoral ministry of Traditional priests! What's more, in the second "desirable" condition we accept the possibility of having to depend on local bishops, even though we're well aware of the extent to which they would like to have an opportunity to make us submit to the ideas and pastoral practice of Vatican II. A real programmed ѕυιcιdє of Tradition! In addition, in the third of these conditions we also accept the possibility of the man in charge of the commission which represents us to the Pope not being himself a Traditionalist. But how could someone who does not think like us, and who is not one of us, represent us? Fr. Mario Trejo, the District Superior of Mexico,  recently said in the Dictrict newsletter ('Dios Nunca Muere', no.41, p.7) that in the declaration of the last General Chapter of the Society, "Every phrase, every word was weighed and examined in order to give testimony to the Faith of all time."  Well, with these conditions, how can the Faith of all time be defended by people who no longer profess it?

    In any case, it has now become clear that there is now a new attitude towards Rome and its errors on the part of those who now run the SSPX, a new position full of omissions and ready to make very serious compromises which, even if it hasn't yet been brought about, brings to light a more than worrying state of mind. There is a gradual omission of any reference to our combat, or the objectives which Abp. Lefebvre gave the Society,

    An external policy corresponds to an internal 'policy': which is to say that within the Society, each time in an increasingly obvious way, the existence of a policy of repression against anyone who does not agree with the new orientation of the Society is confirmed. Pressuring, harassing, discrediting and punishing in various different ways anyone who shows that they disagree. Many more disturbing statements and actions could be added. Like, for example, what Fr. Raphael Arizaga heard from the mouth of Bishop Fellay in a conference to seminarians at Winona, on 21st December last year: "Because I wanted to preserve the internal unity of the Society, I withdrew the docuмent in which I said 'I do not reject all of Vatican II' - which is what I really said."

    Abp. Lefebvre counselled against going to Indult Masses as well as those groups with an atmosphere such as the Fraternity of St. Peter, because such atmospheres are corrupted at their root, in the sense that what is taught and promoted in the short- or long-term tends towards assimilation with the conciliar Church. But if the Society of St. Pius X changes its spirit and its objectives, could it not also end up being in a similar state, equal or worse, even if the agreement with Rome has, for the moment, not been made concrete?

    I myself have commented on how many priests have changed their attitude towards the combat of Tradition against the enemy, and unfortunately this has been more frequently the case with new priests. I am myself a victim of this new line from our superiors, a line full of omissions about struggle and our combat. Already, they're not seeing many enemies in Rome; optimism has little by little replaced the distrust which one ought naturally to feel towards the destroyers of the Church. My District Superior, Fr. Mario Trejo has forbidden me to speak about these subjects: not just in sermons, but also in private! Whether it be with the faithful or with other priests, and that with the threat of transfer and severe punishments.

    And since I cannot accomplish my mission as a priest from within the Society, a mission which consists of showing forth the truth and denouncing danger which threatens souls, I have decided to continue my ministry outside the structure of the Society, although I continue to be a member of it, and this is for the good of the faithful who are in Mexico City and who wish to have recourse to my priestly ministry. I hope that you, as well as my fellow priests, will understand the reasons for this serious decision.

    May God, through Our Lady of Guadalupe, bless and enlighten you,



    Fr. Hugo Ruiz Vallejo, SSPX

    22nd March, 2013

    In memory of the Seven Dolours of Our Lady.

    Contact: SalTerrae22@gmail.com


    http://www.therecusant.com/fr-hugoruizvallejo

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    « Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 08:38:14 PM »
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  • Very well said, in both cases.  

    Thanks, Militia Jesu!

    UUhhh ... I was talking about the first 2 posts.  I still have to read the last two.
    Have to go right now..................




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    « Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 09:06:14 PM »
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  • Carmelite Nuns oppose Menzingen - Even more evidence of "Profound Unity"...!
       


    The traditional Carmel of St. Joseph, in Brilon Wald, Germany was founded some 30 years ago as a daughter house of the Carmel of the Sacred Heart in Quiévrain, Belgium. Some time ago this German Carmel made clear to Fr. Schmidberger their complete opposition to any agreement with an unconverted modernist Rome. The Carmel has now officially disassociated from the German District of the SSPX.
    The actions of the German District have been neither generous nor charitable. Having already taken away their extern, itself a reprehensible act which potentially placed the enclosed sisters in a very precarious position, the German District is now trying to leave them without a chaplain. Please keep these Carmelite nuns in your prayers.

    Contact details for the Carmel:
    Karmel St. Josef
    Korbacher Str. 89
    59929 Brilon Wald
    Germany
    Tel. 0049 2961 - 6445
    http://www.therecusant.com/apps/blog/show/prev?from_id=24454835
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    Seraphim's comment:
    "Ridiculous, they don't want the SSPX but want to take advantage of it's priests".
    http://www.therecusant.com/apps/blog/show/prev?from_id=24454835

    Talking about of people with an axe to grind....  Wow!

    - A priest belong PRIMARILY to God and His service, not to a "Pious Union" where its Superior General and all his Assistants and District Superiors have, doctrinally speaking, gone mad!

    Who cares about a General Council, a written, official and not retracted preamble, the GREC group, a Jєωιѕн accountant, many scandalously interviews and articles through their official channel (DICI, sspx.org, etc.), many holy priests expelled throughout the globe, many faithful denied all sorts of Sacraments, the muzzle in EVERY single priest in relation to Vatican II, the pope and +Williamson.... Who cares about that as long as I'm comfortable smelling the incense on my local SSPX Mass, really???

    "Not to oppose error is to approve it; and not to defend truth is to suppress it;
    and indeed to neglect to confound evil men, when we can do it, is no less a sin
    than to encourage them." -Pope St. Felix III


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    « Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 09:13:26 PM »
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  • Correction concerning the French District Superior’s statement about the 28/02/13 letter to Bp Fellay.

    Original: La Sapiniere

    A joint letter from 37 priests from the French District was indeed posted on the website La Sapinière. The truths this letter contained have visibly displeased the General House which has decided to punish three priests from among the 37 who approved it. Their crime: a refusal to put up with the General House’s lies.

    The General House commands, in the name of Canon 2331 § 2, that the three priests cease their ministries and be put into quarantine until a trial in which he whom we accuse will also be our judge. In other words, Bp. Fellay will be both judge and plaintiff. We know no Church canon law which permits lying. We do know the 8th Commandment of God forbidding it.

    The entire content of the 28th February letter is true and can be verified. The General House, troubled, at first spoke of the letter being a forgery and that it could not originate from priests. Faced with the facts, they are now trying to make everyone believe it is a “fable”. We have nothing “against the authority of the Society” to which we owe everything, we simply want the General House to stop distorting reality and favoring a practical liberalism. No matter what they say, there is not “only a small number” of priests who wish for “their superiors’ resignation”!

    Three priests have been punished, true, but that changes nothing concerning the facts. The problem remains. We reject the accusation of the General Secetary. We have always justified our sources. We have committed neither calumny, nor defamation, nor amalgam. If we are resolved to denounce the wrongs of the Superior General and his assistants, it is only after having consulted Saint Thomas and moral authorities of the Society. Our aim is to halt the scandal of the troubling and ambiguous policies of the General House.

    Our “attitude” is not founded upon “nothing objective”, quite the contrary! We have not “allowed ourselves to succuмb to an irrational mistrust against the authority of the Society”. The reasons for our concerns are not only reasoned they are argued and put forward in the “Catechism of the Crisis in the SSPX”.

    We do not doubt the doctrinal rectitude of the French District Superior, but we have to admit that he is no longer free to write what he thinks. It would seem he has to twist his conscience to exempt his superior of his faults in order to be allowed to preach doctrine. Without the letter of 28th February from 37 priests, would Bp. Fellay have given the conference the way he did in Nantes on the 1st March? Would the March 2013 “Letter to Friends and Benefactors” have been authorized by Menzingen without Fr de Cacqueray expessing his gratitude to Bp. Fellay “for the courageous refusal he sent to the pope”? This is no longer doctrinal rectitude but the swampland of diplomacy.

    La Sapinière will continue its work. Est est, Non non!

    We detest no one, neither Bp. Fellay however much his duplicity fills us with dread, nor Fr. de Cacqueray for whom we have the greatest esteem. To both of them and to each of the Capitulants who instead of truly resolving the problem at the General Chapter in July 2012 only hid it and even in part endorsed it, we offer the words which Lieutenant Degueldre offered his executioners before being shot: “I have no hate for you, I pity you”.

    Fr Olivier Rioult, FSSPX
    One of the three sanctioned priests


    http://www.therecusant.com/fr-rioult-reply-to-fr-decaq

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    « Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 10:10:38 PM »
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  • Excellent  :applause:


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  • These foreign language translations leave a bit to be desired in English.  I'm
    thinking of a practical use, when I try to share them with friends who are not
    up to speed on all the happenings, I have no doubt they will be unable to
    make heads or tails of the abiding message.  

    Being aware of the overall situation we may be readily able to comprehend
    what the message is, in these letters translated from Spanish, for example.
    But if I print them out and hand them to someone who presently is favoring
    the Menzingen approach, they are not going to appreciate the substance of
    these letters.  It seems to me their mind has been clouded by a prejudice
    in favor of the party line, as it were, and therefore any matter they read
    that is not boldly and clearly descriptive against that way of thinking, or,
    any material they read that is not specifically and forcefully exemplified with
    quotes from the Menzingen-denizens, will merely "go right over their heads."  

    This is not to say that they consciously decide to think that way.  It's just
    that they have been slow-cooked like a frog, and they do not see what is
    happening to them.  

    And the promoters of the Accordista agenda are deliberately setting it up
    this way, to make their followers unaware.  "They're treating them like
    mushrooms:  feeding them B.S. and keeping them in the dark,"
    as one
    very quotable member has described recently but I've forgotten who it
    was, sorry.  

    This is an application of Modernism-in-action.  It works on your thinking
    process in subtle ways, such that you do not know it is happening.  One of
    the symptoms of the malady is that you do not know you are infected.


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    « Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 02:54:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: neil obstat
    Being aware of the overall situation we may be readily able to comprehend
     what the message is, in these letters translated from Spanish, for example.
     But if I print them out and hand them to someone who presently is favoring
     the Menzingen approach, they are not going to appreciate the substance of
     these letters.  It seems to me their mind has been clouded by a prejudice
     in favor of the party line, as it were, and therefore any matter they read
     that is not boldly and clearly descriptive against that way of thinking, or,
     any material they read that is not specifically and forcefully exemplified with
     quotes from the Menzingen-denizens, will merely "go right over their heads."  
    You are, no doubt, referring to some specific "illumination" that is the exclusive prerogative of you and yours... some esoterica that is not for us "profane", eh?

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    « Reply #10 on: March 26, 2013, 01:55:19 PM »
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    But if I print them out and hand them to someone who presently is favoring
    the Menzingen approach, they are not going to appreciate the substance of
    these letters.


    You are on to something here. I commend the layman but it is a waste of time printing these off. I would save the ink in the printer for something else.

    Not wishing to discourage people but what neil obstat states is correct. There is only so much a layman can do.  


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    « Reply #11 on: March 26, 2013, 02:02:36 PM »
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    And the promoters of the Accordista agenda are deliberately setting it up
    this way, to make their followers unaware.  "They're treating them like
    mushrooms:  feeding them B.S. and keeping them in the dark," as one
    very quotable member has described recently but I've forgotten who it
    was, sorry.  

    This is an application of Modernism-in-action.  It works on your thinking
    process in subtle ways, such that you do not know it is happening.  One of
    the symptoms of the malady is that you do not know you are infected.



    I was given out to for stating SSPX folk were stupid but I agree with your analysis.


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    « Reply #12 on: March 26, 2013, 02:16:14 PM »
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    Faced with the facts, they are now trying to make everyone believe it is a “fable”.


    The SSPX are pretty good at that. Facts are "internet rumour" and those who believe otherwise are wackos or silly children for believing "internet rumour".

    I have a massive difficulty with priests acting in this way. You don't expect priests to tell lies or try convince you, you are making things up.

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    Open Letter from a perplexed layman to the priests of the SSPX
    « Reply #13 on: March 29, 2013, 12:37:47 PM »
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  • I had to do some searching to find whom you were quoting here, John Grace:


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    Faced with the facts, they are now trying to make everyone believe it is a “fable”.


    The SSPX are pretty good at that. Facts are "internet rumour" and those who believe otherwise are wackos or silly children for believing "internet rumour".

    I have a massive difficulty with priests acting in this way. You don't expect priests to tell lies or try convince you, you are making things up.



    Source:
    Quote from: Militia Jesu

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    The entire content of the 28th February letter is true and can be verified. The General House, troubled, at first spoke of the letter being a forgery and that it could not originate from priests. Faced with the facts, they are now trying to make everyone believe it is a “fable”. We have nothing “against the authority of the Society” to which we owe everything, we simply want the General House to stop distorting reality and favoring a practical liberalism. No matter what they say, there is not “only a small number” of priests who wish for “their superiors’ resignation”!
    ...

    Fr Olivier Rioult, FSSPX
    One of the three sanctioned priests

    http://www.therecusant.com/fr-rioult-reply-to-fr-decaq


    I'd like you to know that I appreciate your insight here, John.  For I too have
    a massive difficulty, but I was not aware that it was owing to priests acting this
    way.  Now I think I am getting focused better, thanks to your post here.  

    I do not expect priests to tell lies.  I do not expect priests to try to convince me
    that I (am), or someone that I am reading is making things up.  This is key.  I
    would like to know which priests are doing this.  I know that Fr. Rostand, as
    District Superior of the USA, is doing this, and is he, as a sort of superior, forming
    this attitude in his charges?  

    If this is going on, we need to face it boldly, and call out these priests who are
    doing this.  We need to give them the message, LOUD AND CLEAR, that they
    have NO RIGHT as a priest of the SSPX to be following in FALSE OBEDIENCE to
    the BAD EXAMPLE of Fr. Rostand.  


    Come to think of it, you're in the UK, no, John?  So are you thinking of what is
    going on there, or is it Menzingen, and for us, Fr. Rostand is just falling into line?


    Please explain.  


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    Open Letter from a perplexed layman to the priests of the SSPX
    « Reply #14 on: March 29, 2013, 01:53:53 PM »
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  • Neil Obstat,

    Keeping your comment to me in mind, I will answer in this way. A few days ago, I met some SSPX folk and they had certainly blank faces when I told them about the loss of the Carmel in Germany, the priests in France and different happenings of the past few months.

    We had discussed matters a few months previously and they were certainly pro-Bishop Fellay. Yes, they had concerns but they found him persuasive and had confidence in him. Some concerns about losing their chapels in Modern Bishops but still prepared to trust Bishop Fellay.

    A few days ago they seemed more anti-agreement and quite shocked at what is happening.  

    I could be wrong and don't wish to judge but I still see them despite everything believing the rubbish from Bishop Fellay and Menzingen.

    One positive thing from our conversation is they will read The Recusant. I can do no more for people like that. They did brand me a rebel but not massively bothered about that.

    What encouraged me though is they were outnumbered by those against a deal, and remain faithful to Archbishop Lefebvre.