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Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Pilar on May 15, 2016, 11:14:40 PM

Telephone confirmation by theologian Fr. Ingo Dollinger that only part of the Secret has been published and what was omitted is what Archbishop Lefebvre held since the Council.

http://www.onepeterfive.com/cardinal-ratzinger-not-published-whole-third-secret-fatima/
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on May 16, 2016, 06:17:43 AM
Wow, this strange fun fact jumped out at me:
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He later taught moral theology at the seminary of the Order of Canons Regular of the Holy Cross which belongs to the Opus Angelorum. Bishop Athanasius Schneider, auxiliary bishop of Astana, Kazakhstan, is member of that same  Order of Canons Regular of the Holy Cross. Most importantly, Father Dollinger had Padre Pio (d. 1968) as his confessor for many years and became very close to him. Dollinger is also personally known to one of my beloved family members.


Astana is rumored to be the new HQ for the one-world government to be announced soon.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Fatimagirl on May 16, 2016, 09:32:41 PM
Thank you for this reference!  This is SOOOO huge!!!!!

Let us pray that Pope Benedict XVI will release more about the missing part of the 3rd Secret of Fatima --

Or, if not him, then others who know its contents.

We all need to hear what the Mother of God has to say to us about our very serious and unfaithful times!

Here is a link to an earlier article on the 3rd Secret published last week by 1 Peter 5:
http://www.onepeterfive.com/alice-von-hildebrand-sheds-new-light-fatima/

Sweet Heart of Mary, be our Salvation!     :pray:
Fatimagirl
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Matto on May 16, 2016, 09:51:27 PM
I can't remember how many times I have heard about the "true" third secret of Fatima so I don't know what to believe. Though this one sounds more true to the times than the ones saying that fire will fall from the sky and wipe out three fourths of humanity. The prophecy of a wicked council and a wicked Mass have come true.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Matto on May 16, 2016, 09:58:33 PM
To add to my above post, I think if this is really what the true secret said it would make sense because a wicked council and a wicked Mass are the most important things I think the Blessed Mother would want to warn us about our times.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: MaterDominici on May 16, 2016, 10:02:06 PM
I don't know when this video was made, but I watched it a few weeks ago and learned a couple of things I didn't know before.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/rEAXKn44jrI[/youtube]
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: JPaul on May 17, 2016, 08:11:59 AM
Quote from: Matto
To add to my above post, I think if this is really what the true secret said it would make sense because a wicked council and a wicked Mass are the most important things I think the Blessed Mother would want to warn us about our times.


And consider the failure and wickedness of the popes who refused Our Lady's directives and also would not publish this full secret to the faithful who were  placed in direct danger from the council and the "bad" mass.

How could the intended receivers of Her warning, obey Heaven's command, if they were not told of it.
Had the Faithful and the clerics been informed of the specific nature of the warnings, there would have been a different attitude and response to the council and the New Order service. The element of surprise and blind trust would have been denied to the Church's enemies at their council.
It is said that the Popes have been set over the Church to protect and guide Her, and Her children.....................well?

If these facts about the secret are true, then the Church's problems with popes, started long before the revolutionaries realized their council, and put their own men in Peter's chair, although with John XXIII's connections to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ,
organized Jewry, and Communists, It would appear that attaining the Tiarra had already been accomplished.
Had these facts been widely known, how might that conclave have turned out?
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: JPaul on May 17, 2016, 08:24:34 AM
Matto,
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I think if this is really what the true secret said it would make sense because a wicked council and a wicked Mass are the most important things I think the Blessed Mother would want to warn us about our times.


Indeed, and now we know from experience of the wicked council and the wicked mass and should be firmly opposed and rejected for what they are, but how many clerics and faithful do?  Carrying on alongside while they are still in our midst, and damaging the Church and souls is not an option.
It would seem that that should be the first essential step for anyone who claims to be "resisting" the revolution.
Cohabitation is not resistance.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: AJNC on May 17, 2016, 09:05:37 AM
Quote from: Matto
To add to my above post, I think if this is really what the true secret said it would make sense because a wicked council and a wicked Mass are the most important things I think the Blessed Mother would want to warn us about our times.


The docuмents promulgating this wicked council and wicked Mass were signed by the Pope - Christ's Vicar on Earth. Did Ratzinger tell his friend Dollinger that in fact it was an anti-Pope who signed these docuмents?. And that by carrying on these wicked things in his time he too was an anti-Pope?
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Alexandrina1 on May 17, 2016, 09:09:15 AM
We've just celebrated the 99th anniversary of Fatima. I'm not trying to act like a prophet, but I can't help thinking something big is going to hit with regard to the prophecy really soon.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Croixalist on May 17, 2016, 10:36:26 AM
Wouldn't it be something if the secret called out both the Council and the new Mass? I hope it's true! Then we'll get to see the looks on their faces after 50 years of trying to cover Our Lady's mouth like someone's senile grandmother at a family gathering.

The Council must be condemned, the New Mass must be outlawed, and the "spirit" of VII must be declared for what it is: the spirit of Satan!

 :heretic:

Quote from: Alexandrina1
We've just celebrated the 99th anniversary of Fatima. I'm not trying to act like a prophet, but I can't help thinking something big is going to hit with regard to the prophecy really soon.


We do have a few celestial events happening in the months just before next year's Miracle of the Sun centennial. On August 21 (St. Pius X's N.O. feast day) there will be a total solar eclipse traveling through the entire continental U.S. for the first time since 1918.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/gm48tKnwcAY[/youtube]

It will be followed 33 days later by a much ballyhooed (for quite a few years now) astronomical equivalent of the Woman Clothed in the Sun from Revelation 12:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/XXxVwpcXV0U[/youtube]

Minus all the Protestant salivation over the whole "rapture-final tribulation" false doctrine, it is a pretty interesting representation as far as it goes. Perhaps a Fatima-style appropriation is in order?

3 planets or "wandering stars" Mars, Venus and Mercury line up around the 9 stars of Leo above the "head" of constellation Virgo, which has the Sun in its and a waning crescent moon by its "feet". Jupiter (the king planet) will have just exited from within the "womb" of Virgo  after some 44 weeks of retrograde motion.  

This happens on September 23rd, St. Padre Pio's (N.O. of course) feast day and 49th anniversary of his death. We could really use your help right about now Padre!
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Croixalist on May 17, 2016, 10:46:21 AM
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which has the Sun in its...


...in its sign.  I always leave something out.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: JPaul on May 17, 2016, 12:19:06 PM
Croixalist,
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The Council must be condemned, the New Mass must be outlawed, and the "spirit" of VII must be declared for what it is: the spirit of Satan!


Now that is a Catholic principle and sound basis upon which to build a true resistance.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: ihsv on May 17, 2016, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: J.Paul
Croixalist,
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The Council must be condemned, the New Mass must be outlawed, and the "spirit" of VII must be declared for what it is: the spirit of Satan!


Now that is a Catholic principle and sound basis upon which to build a true resistance.


Cue the conciliarist from Fish Eaters in 5...4...3...2....

 :popcorn:
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Fatimagirl on May 17, 2016, 01:43:42 PM


I see that you have Fr. Leonard Feeney's photo as your image --

I had the privilege of visiting his grave this past weekend!!

What a prophet!!

Back to the subject at hand --

John XXIII is at fault for not obeying Our Lady -- She wanted the 3rd Secret revealed no later than 1960.

Think of how so much would be different if he had obeyed Her!   :facepalm:

Pray for the countless souls that are being lost due to the grave errors that have occurred in the wake of Vatican II.

It is no wonder that Our Lady's statues are weeping everywhere -- and that She had to give us the back-up apparitions at Garabandal and Akita --

Here is a great video on the connection of Fatima and Akita:
https://youtu.be/lAAkEp0BV9Q

If Rome has become the seat of Anti-Christ, we must pray for the SSPX not to totally fall into this cesspool -- and that the true legacy of Arch Lefebvre lives on!

Pray for Bishop Williamson!!!  

Immaculate Heart of Mary, be our Salvation!   :pray:
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Servus Pius on May 18, 2016, 03:46:23 AM
Quote from: Pilar

Telephone confirmation by theologian Fr. Ingo Dollinger that only part of the Secret has been published and what was omitted is what Archbishop Lefebvre held since the Council.

http://www.onepeterfive.com/cardinal-ratzinger-not-published-whole-third-secret-fatima/


From the Fatima Center Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153362412391442&id=95998926441&substory_index=0&hc_location=ufi
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: songbird on May 19, 2016, 06:35:16 PM
I am of the opinion, that Our Lady would not waste her time to visit us, unless it had to do with our salvation.  She revealed hell. Good start. Sins of the Flesh made #1.
She reminded us to do penance.  

I am of the opinion that Father Malachi Martin had known of the secret.  Now remember, nothing is being held back from us to know our salvation.  I consider the secret a secret just because it was not revealed to us and only to a chosen few.
I am of the opinion that Fr. Martin had the secret.  He told listeners on the radio, that any disaster of the worst they could imagine, was not of the secret.  He said, look at the last apparition that Lucia had in 1927(?). He said that is a part of the secret.  What was apparition? Lucia was in church, and at the altar saw Christ on the Crucifix, with Our Lady standing at the foot of the Cross. Above Christ's head, Lucia stated it was in her mind to know it was God the Father and the Holy Ghost.

It is no secret that the Mass will come to an end.  Is this not the worst that could ever happen to man on earth! No Precious Blood, on the altar of any sacrament. Nothing for man's soul.  Nothing could be worse.  

If you need confession, you best run! Run! before there is no valid priest left.

In my opinion, Man must see for himself the Value of the Precious Blood.

The Confraternity of the Precious Blood Society once was.  Founded by Saint Gaspar of Italy in the 1800's.  Nuns, adorers of the Precious Blood. True, they are no longer.  The people of Michigan, for example, loved those priests, the sons of Gaspar.  If one died, it was, give us another son of Gaspar.  

There are books still available of this Society.  Faber, Watz and your Steidman missals.  Is is also known that the Feast of the Precious Blood is 1 July for those who have a traditional calendar.  This Feast was knocked off the calendar under Pope John the XXIII.  Some say it was the 1st feast day to be knocked off.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Kephapaulos on May 22, 2016, 12:58:00 AM
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/05/benedict-xvi-dismisses-supposed-new.html?m=1

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RORATE CÆLI
An International Traditional Catholic Weblog
Benedict XVI dismisses supposed new Fatima revelations as "pure invention" and "absolutely untrue"

Recent image of the Pope Emeritus in a concert offered for his birthday (April 2016)

From the Holy See Press Office:

Several articles have appeared recently, including declarations attributed to Professor Ingo Dollinger according to which Cardinal Ratzinger, after the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima (which took place in June 2000), had confided to him that the publication was not complete.

In this regard, Pope emeritus Benedict XVI declares “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima”, clearly affirming that the remarks attributed to Professor Dollinger on the matter “are pure inventions, absolutely untrue”, and he confirms decisively that “the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima is complete”.

As you may have noticed, we avoided mentioning this matter here, as it also seemed (due to several details of the story) peremptorily non-credible. It is to be hoped that the Pope Emeritus' unusually strong denials should put this episode to rest.

(Source)
New Catholic at 5/21/2016 02:25:00 PM


I'm not sure what to make of this all now. Could Benedict XVI be lying under duress? It is interesting that the response to Fr. Dollinger's claims came out so quickly. I know that what was read and claimed as the Third Secret of Fatima was either not complete or a fake either way.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Pilar on May 22, 2016, 04:29:26 AM
Quote from: Kephapaulos
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/05/benedict-xvi-dismisses-supposed-new.html?m=1

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RORATE CÆLI
An International Traditional Catholic Weblog
Benedict XVI dismisses supposed new Fatima revelations as "pure invention" and "absolutely untrue"

Recent image of the Pope Emeritus in a concert offered for his birthday (April 2016)

From the Holy See Press Office:

Several articles have appeared recently, including declarations attributed to Professor Ingo Dollinger according to which Cardinal Ratzinger, after the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima (which took place in June 2000), had confided to him that the publication was not complete.

In this regard, Pope emeritus Benedict XVI declares “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima”, clearly affirming that the remarks attributed to Professor Dollinger on the matter “are pure inventions, absolutely untrue”, and he confirms decisively that “the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima is complete”.

As you may have noticed, we avoided mentioning this matter here, as it also seemed (due to several details of the story) peremptorily non-credible. It is to be hoped that the Pope Emeritus' unusually strong denials should put this episode to rest.

(Source)
New Catholic at 5/21/2016 02:25:00 PM


I'm not sure what to make of this all now. Could Benedict XVI be lying under duress? It is interesting that the response to Fr. Dollinger's claims came out so quickly. I know that what was read and claimed as the Third Secret of Fatima was either not complete or a fake either way.
Title: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass."
Post by: Pilar on May 22, 2016, 04:35:55 AM
Quote from: Pilar
Quote from: Kephapaulos
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/05/benedict-xvi-dismisses-supposed-new.html?m=1

Quote
RORATE CÆLI
An International Traditional Catholic Weblog
Benedict XVI dismisses supposed new Fatima revelations as "pure invention" and "absolutely untrue"

Recent image of the Pope Emeritus in a concert offered for his birthday (April 2016)

From the Holy See Press Office:

Several articles have appeared recently, including declarations attributed to Professor Ingo Dollinger according to which Cardinal Ratzinger, after the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima (which took place in June 2000), had confided to him that the publication was not complete.

In this regard, Pope emeritus Benedict XVI declares “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima”, clearly affirming that the remarks attributed to Professor Dollinger on the matter “are pure inventions, absolutely untrue”, and he confirms decisively that “the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima is complete”.

As you may have noticed, we avoided mentioning this matter here, as it also seemed (due to several details of the story) peremptorily non-credible. It is to be hoped that the Pope Emeritus' unusually strong denials should put this episode to rest.

(Source)
New Catholic at 5/21/2016 02:25:00 PM


I'm not sure what to make of this all now. Could Benedict XVI be lying under duress? It is interesting that the response to Fr. Dollinger's claims came out so quickly. I know that what was read and claimed as the Third Secret of Fatima was either not complete or a fake either way.


Who knows if he said anything of the sort. How can we trust anything out of the N.O.? If he did say it, and God knows, he may well be under the same duress that he apparently was under when they moved him off the throne. I believe Fr. Dollinger who is an old friend of Benedict, and I believe that Pope Benedict wanted it ultimately to be revealed. Besides, they quote Benedict as saying that the entire secret has been revealed and we know, from Fr. Gruner, Antonio Socci etc... that this cannot be true. What was revealed by Rome as the entire message was just a small portion, if it was true at all.