Author Topic: One Peter Five: 3rd Secret "...bad Council... bad Mass." (Read 3837 times)

Servus Pius · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2016, 03:46:23 AM »

Quote from: Pilar

Telephone confirmation by theologian Fr. Ingo Dollinger that only part of the Secret has been published and what was omitted is what Archbishop Lefebvre held since the Council.

http://www.onepeterfive.com/cardinal-ratzinger-not-published-whole-third-secret-fatima/

From the Fatima Center Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153362412391442&id=95998926441&substory_index=0&hc_location=ufi

songbird · « **Reply #16 on:** May 19, 2016, 06:35:16 PM »

I am of the opinion, that Our Lady would not waste her time to visit us, unless it had to do with our salvation. She revealed hell. Good start. Sins of the Flesh made #1.
She reminded us to do penance.

I am of the opinion that Father Malachi Martin had known of the secret. Now remember, nothing is being held back from us to know our salvation. I consider the secret a secret just because it was not revealed to us and only to a chosen few.
I am of the opinion that Fr. Martin had the secret. He told listeners on the radio, that any disaster of the worst they could imagine, was not of the secret. He said, look at the last apparition that Lucia had in 1927(?). He said that is a part of the secret. What was apparition? Lucia was in church, and at the altar saw Christ on the Crucifix, with Our Lady standing at the foot of the Cross. Above Christ's head, Lucia stated it was in her mind to know it was God the Father and the Holy Ghost.

It is no secret that the Mass will come to an end. Is this not the worst that could ever happen to man on earth! No Precious Blood, on the altar of any sacrament. Nothing for man's soul. Nothing could be worse.

If you need confession, you best run! Run! before there is no valid priest left.

In my opinion, Man must see for himself the Value of the Precious Blood.

The Confraternity of the Precious Blood Society once was. Founded by Saint Gaspar of Italy in the 1800's. Nuns, adorers of the Precious Blood. True, they are no longer. The people of Michigan, for example, loved those priests, the sons of Gaspar. If one died, it was, give us another son of Gaspar.

There are books still available of this Society. Faber, Watz and your Steidman missals. Is is also known that the Feast of the Precious Blood is 1 July for those who have a traditional calendar. This Feast was knocked off the calendar under Pope John the XXIII. Some say it was the 1st feast day to be knocked off.

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2016, 12:58:00 AM »

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/05/benedict-xvi-dismisses-supposed-new.html?m=1

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RORATE CÆLI
An International Traditional Catholic Weblog
Benedict XVI dismisses supposed new Fatima revelations as "pure invention" and "absolutely untrue"

Recent image of the Pope Emeritus in a concert offered for his birthday (April 2016)

From the Holy See Press Office:

Several articles have appeared recently, including declarations attributed to Professor Ingo Dollinger according to which Cardinal Ratzinger, after the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima (which took place in June 2000), had confided to him that the publication was not complete.

In this regard, Pope emeritus Benedict XVI declares “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima”, clearly affirming that the remarks attributed to Professor Dollinger on the matter “are pure inventions, absolutely untrue”, and he confirms decisively that “the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima is complete”.

As you may have noticed, we avoided mentioning this matter here, as it also seemed (due to several details of the story) peremptorily non-credible. It is to be hoped that the Pope Emeritus' unusually strong denials should put this episode to rest.

(Source)
New Catholic at 5/21/2016 02:25:00 PM

I'm not sure what to make of this all now. Could Benedict XVI be lying under duress? It is interesting that the response to Fr. Dollinger's claims came out so quickly. I know that what was read and claimed as the Third Secret of Fatima was either not complete or a fake either way.

Pilar · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2016, 04:29:26 AM »

Quote from: Kephapaulos

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/05/benedict-xvi-dismisses-supposed-new.html?m=1

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RORATE CÆLI
An International Traditional Catholic Weblog
Benedict XVI dismisses supposed new Fatima revelations as "pure invention" and "absolutely untrue"

Recent image of the Pope Emeritus in a concert offered for his birthday (April 2016)

From the Holy See Press Office:

Several articles have appeared recently, including declarations attributed to Professor Ingo Dollinger according to which Cardinal Ratzinger, after the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima (which took place in June 2000), had confided to him that the publication was not complete.

In this regard, Pope emeritus Benedict XVI declares “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima”, clearly affirming that the remarks attributed to Professor Dollinger on the matter “are pure inventions, absolutely untrue”, and he confirms decisively that “the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima is complete”.

As you may have noticed, we avoided mentioning this matter here, as it also seemed (due to several details of the story) peremptorily non-credible. It is to be hoped that the Pope Emeritus' unusually strong denials should put this episode to rest.

(Source)
New Catholic at 5/21/2016 02:25:00 PM

I'm not sure what to make of this all now. Could Benedict XVI be lying under duress? It is interesting that the response to Fr. Dollinger's claims came out so quickly. I know that what was read and claimed as the Third Secret of Fatima was either not complete or a fake either way.

Pilar · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2016, 04:35:55 AM »

Quote from: Pilar

Quote from: Kephapaulos
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/05/benedict-xvi-dismisses-supposed-new.html?m=1

Quote
RORATE CÆLI
An International Traditional Catholic Weblog
Benedict XVI dismisses supposed new Fatima revelations as "pure invention" and "absolutely untrue"

Recent image of the Pope Emeritus in a concert offered for his birthday (April 2016)

From the Holy See Press Office:

Several articles have appeared recently, including declarations attributed to Professor Ingo Dollinger according to which Cardinal Ratzinger, after the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima (which took place in June 2000), had confided to him that the publication was not complete.

In this regard, Pope emeritus Benedict XVI declares “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima”, clearly affirming that the remarks attributed to Professor Dollinger on the matter “are pure inventions, absolutely untrue”, and he confirms decisively that “the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima is complete”.

As you may have noticed, we avoided mentioning this matter here, as it also seemed (due to several details of the story) peremptorily non-credible. It is to be hoped that the Pope Emeritus' unusually strong denials should put this episode to rest.

(Source)
New Catholic at 5/21/2016 02:25:00 PM

I'm not sure what to make of this all now. Could Benedict XVI be lying under duress? It is interesting that the response to Fr. Dollinger's claims came out so quickly. I know that what was read and claimed as the Third Secret of Fatima was either not complete or a fake either way.

Who knows if he said anything of the sort. How can we trust anything out of the N.O.? If he did say it, and God knows, he may well be under the same duress that he apparently was under when they moved him off the throne. I believe Fr. Dollinger who is an old friend of Benedict, and I believe that Pope Benedict wanted it ultimately to be revealed. Besides, they quote Benedict as saying that the entire secret has been revealed and we know, from Fr. Gruner, Antonio Socci etc... that this cannot be true. What was revealed by Rome as the entire message was just a small portion, if it was true at all.