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Offline Miser Peccator

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Re: On the Whole Bellarmine Question
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2023, 01:51:40 PM »
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  • "Sitteth." In the seat. How much clearer does it have to be?


    Yes, it's clear there are non-Catholics who "Sitteth" in the seat.

    Yes, they are clearly heretics/apostates who are implementing VII which declare that Allah is Jesus' Father.

    It's like looking at Muslims or Buddhists or Witchdoctors sitting in the chair of Peter.

    Yes, we can see they are not Catholics.

    These non-Catholics have taken over the Vatican!


    As St Robert stated:
    for men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple [simpliciter], and condemn him as a heretic.”


    Well, we know that anyone who denies just ONE dogma of the faith has separated themselves from the Mystical Body of Christ...


    so that means that when all of these guys:




    signed docuмents that declared that the Muslim god, Allah, is worshipped as Jesus' Father

    they made their exit from the Mystical Body of Christ, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

    That's astounding!

    I guess that's why it's called the GREAT APOSTASY.

    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: On the Whole Bellarmine Question
    « Reply #31 on: June 05, 2023, 03:25:53 PM »
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  • Yes, it's clear there are non-Catholics who "Sitteth" in the seat.

    Yes, they are clearly heretics/apostates who are implementing VII which declare that Allah is Jesus' Father.

    It's like looking at Muslims or Buddhists or Witchdoctors sitting in the chair of Peter.

    Yes, we can see they are not Catholics.

    These non-Catholics have taken over the Vatican!


    As St Robert stated:
    for men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple [simpliciter], and condemn him as a heretic.”


    Well, we know that anyone who denies just ONE dogma of the faith has separated themselves from the Mystical Body of Christ...


    so that means that when all of these guys:




    signed docuмents that declared that the Muslim god, Allah, is worshipped as Jesus' Father

    they made their exit from the Mystical Body of Christ, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

    That's astounding!

    I guess that's why it's called the GREAT APOSTASY.

    I've thought about that before.  When these bishops signed Vatican 2 since it contains obvious heresy, did they all exit the Church?  The bishops primary duty is to know and teach/spread the faith...  it's a tough question, but seems possible, even likely.


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    Re: On the Whole Bellarmine Question
    « Reply #32 on: June 07, 2023, 01:45:52 AM »
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  • So that the Lad and others could titillate with Siri theories on the Net and say, the indefectibility of the Church continues, no big deal, move along . . . I think not.



    Ok, I'd let them alone if that were it - leave them to their delusion - but the fact that they call Vigano, Sean and others "heretics" or that they propose a heresy is just too much to take.


    There is no need to delve into conspiracy theories or deep analysis of theology

    when a second grade First Communicant can tell you that

    Allah is not Jesus' Father

    and anyone who consents to that belief is not Catholic

    and outside the Church.

    Every prelate at VII publicly consented to that belief so...


    Vigano is also clearly a heretic/apostate because of the following:


    See this video at the 7:31 mark
    https://youtu.be/nES89qnv9x8?t=450

    He says: 

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    And this:

    ARCHBISHOP VIGANÒ OMITS FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST AND THE CHURCH IN LETTER TO RABBI
    (from the comments)
    Vigano not only failed to mention Christ, the true Jєωιѕн Messiah but falsely stated that Israel is NOT looking for an anti-Christ, when it is exactly what Israel is looking for!


    https://www.fromrome.info/2020/05/27/archbishop-vigano-omits-faith-in-jesus-christ-and-the-church-in-letter-to-rabbi/



    And from his address to the Jericho Prayer Rally:

    ABVigano to Jєωs, Protestants, Catholics and whatnot at the ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Jericho Rally:

    We are the silent army of the children of Light"

    By speaking in the first person plural — “we” — he is making clear that he considers himself one of them and one with them. This is only consistent with the nature and purpose of the event, which the organizers had announced would be “comprised of ʝʊdɛօ-Christians collectively praying to God"



    Here is a flyer from the event.  It's a clear contradiction of the quotes from councils, saints and popes above.  It makes it clear that it is promoting the ʝʊdɛօ-Christian faith and communal prayer. 
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    Most people have no idea what blowing shofars means...

    "Blowing the shofar speaks to us of the coming of the Moshiach and the great good toward which the world is moving."
    By Rabbi Nochum Mangel, Chabad

    https://daytonJєωιѕнobserver.org/2018/08/one-shofar-many-faces/



    The Moshiach is the Antichrist, Y'all!



    These statements should be obvious heresy to most Catholics but just to make it clear:


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    The Council of Laodicea in 365 AD stated, “No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics.”


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    St. Cyril of Alexandria echoed these same sentiments when he said, “It is therefore unlawful, and a profanation, and an act the punishment of which is death, to love to associate with unholy heretics, and to unite yourself to their communion.”


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    Council of Carthage in the fifth century decreed, “One must neither pray nor sing psalms with heretics, and whoever shall communicate with those who are cut off from the communion of the Church, whether clergy or layman: let him be excommunicated.”




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    St. Thomas Aquinas, said, “To know whom to avoid is a great means of saving our souls…Thus, the Church forbids the faithful to communicate with those unbelievers who have forsaken the faith by corrupting it, such as heretics, or by renouncing it, such as apostates.”




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    Pope Pius XI

    They presuppose the erroneous view that all religions are more or less good and praiseworthy, inasmuch as all give expression, under various forms, to that innate sense which leads men to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of His rule… to favor this opinion, therefore, and to encourage such undertakings, is tantamount to abandoning the religion revealed by God.”

    Let us focus attention on the phrase “tantamount to abandoning the religion revealed by God.” This phrase is another definition of the word “apostasy.” According to Pope Pius XI, to hold to false ecuмenism and to encourage it, is equivalent to apostasy.


    https://cmri.org/articles-on-the-traditional-catholic-faith/the-last-days-and-false-ecuмenism/


    In light of this it is clear that Vigano is guilty of heresy/apostasy.

    These quotes from popes, saints and canon law (which I posted above) make it clear that anyone who does these things has ipso facto, without declaratory sentence lost their office:


    https://cmri.org/articles-on-the-traditional-catholic-faith/quotes-from-theologians-supporting-the-sedevacantist-position/






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    Read the divine Scriptures and take counsel, people. Pray this Israel doesn't make the same mistakes in its blindness - which is masqueraded as orthodox devotion.

    Yes.  This is very important, DR, because it's all coming true!

    What are we to do with regards to these apostate preachers of a false gospel??


    Gal 1:8
    But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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