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« on: May 26, 2014, 12:12:51 AM »
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  • [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/IbsZWLUwSU8[/youtube]


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    « Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 02:54:14 AM »
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  • This video really shows not much at all - just a still of the back of a nun in proper habit who appears to be maybe setting up an altar.

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    « Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 03:25:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: Nadir
    This video really shows not much at all - just a still of the back of a nun in proper habit who appears to be maybe setting up an altar.




    Exactly what I thought.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 26, 2014, 03:33:19 AM »
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  • Was she actually serving during Mass- or just setting up for Mass?

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    « Reply #4 on: May 26, 2014, 03:46:26 AM »
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    Was she actually serving during Mass- or just setting up for Mass?


    It makes no difference, she is not allowed in the sanctuary.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 03:48:22 AM »
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  • During the beginning of the 19th century St Catherine Emerick was the sacristan for the chapel of the convent where she lived before its suppression by the government. While she was sacristan one of her duties was to ring the bell at mass.  

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    « Reply #6 on: May 26, 2014, 04:57:13 AM »
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  • Quote from: crossbro
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    Was she actually serving during Mass- or just setting up for Mass?


    It makes no difference, she is not allowed in the sanctuary.


    Why is she not allowed to clean the altar or arrange up the flowers?

    My mom +rip, born in 1931, arranged the flowers on the altar and around the sanctuary, stripped and washed the linens,  dusted etc. throughout her school years.

    The video should show the nuns serving if wants to be believed, otherwise, far as I'm concerned, it's a crock.

     
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    « Reply #7 on: May 26, 2014, 07:01:54 AM »
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  • It is primarily the exaggeration that debunks this video's credibility. It makes you wonder if it was really presented as an issue to the prior. Certainly, if this were happening for such a long time and many complaints were made, we would have heard of this by now. It looks more as if someone had their camera and wanted another opportunity to throw mud at the Society. I understand the argument that a woman should not be at the altar, and I agree. The problem again is the exaggeration of it all. You can be certain that as far as allowing women to so much as "enter up to the altar" as the nun has done here is something that has not only happened in Society chapels!
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    « Reply #8 on: May 26, 2014, 08:27:55 AM »
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  • Very worrying. But there is worse, much worse.

    I found a much more disturbing picture of a traditional nun saying the Novus Ordo facing the people and without vestments.



    And another traditional nun giving Benediction.



    Another nun vesting for mass. She has the amice already on her head. It's clear! Furthermore, it's very disturbing to see that her rosary hangs on the right and not from the left side of the habit, as tradition commands.




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    « Reply #9 on: May 26, 2014, 09:13:06 AM »
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  • In Ireland, Nun's/Women have always attended to altar cloth's, linen's, and flowers.

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    « Reply #10 on: May 26, 2014, 09:32:23 AM »
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  • I can confirm. In County Mayo many parishes had women sacristans back in the fifties. My own parish sacristan was a holy widow who survived thanks to her salary as a sacristan. She also taught the servers the ceremonies and the Latin responses for holy mass. Good memories.
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    « Reply #11 on: May 26, 2014, 10:46:06 AM »
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    In truth the video shows little, however I have heard that women at that parish even handle sacred vessels (chalice included) bare fisted!  

    Can anyone from the parish confirm this?

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    « Reply #12 on: May 26, 2014, 12:48:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: JMacQ
    I can confirm. In County Mayo many parishes had women sacristans back in the fifties. My own parish sacristan was a holy widow who survived thanks to her salary as a sacristan. She also taught the servers the ceremonies and the Latin responses for holy mass. Good memories.


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    « Reply #13 on: May 26, 2014, 02:15:16 PM »
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    Was she actually serving during Mass- or just setting up for Mass?


    It makes no difference, she is not allowed in the sanctuary.


    I'm sorry, but that is simply nonsense.
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    « Reply #14 on: May 26, 2014, 04:25:08 PM »
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    It is primarily the exaggeration that debunks this video's credibility. It makes you wonder if it was really presented as an issue to the prior. Certainly, if this were happening for such a long time and many complaints were made, we would have heard of this by now. It looks more as if someone had their camera and wanted another opportunity to throw mud at the Society. I understand the argument that a woman should not be at the altar, and I agree. The problem again is the exaggeration of it all. You can be certain that as far as allowing women to so much as "enter up to the altar" as the nun has done here is something that has not only happened in Society chapels!


    Come on, people, we don't need CRAP like this when we have REAL EVIDENCE to "throw mud" at the SSPX. This is not even legitimate. The REAL ISSUES are what matter, not superficialities like this. This only serves to discredit the resistance with numbskull postings like this.
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