Author Topic: Novus Ordo SSPX???? (Read 11467 times)

Incredulous · « **Reply #35 on:** October 02, 2012, 06:10:49 PM »

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Has anyone ever seen any published accounts of the Society? I don't mean names on a register but actual figures. The word MONEY came up on another forum today as the reason for a lot of policy and we tend to forget the power of money. For example, what is the justification for the showpiece seminary now being planned in Virginia?

The old one is not large enough, and all attempts to purchase empty, existing seminaries were met with No. This firsthand from the [very kindly]person spearheading the effort, and then Fr. La Roux mentioned the beautiful scenery of Virginia as something desirable. The old house will become a retreat center.

My SSPX priest told there was no reason for this new seminary. They have lots of property in Winona and could easily add on. They need more dorms and another Chapel there. The true reasons for the Virginia seminary haven't been revealed yet. Of course, the fact someone gave them the property, and several million to start is one reason. Very wasteful, however. Not a good use of resources, I don't think.

So, correct me if I'm wrong.
I heard the new seminary fundraising target was $30 million.

Since the SSPX doesn't publish their financial reports, how do we know the funds won't be funnelled into Dello Sarto AG or another SSPX investment company bank account?

Call me a cynic, but the SSPX lacks accountability on several fronts.
The common sense management rule is "Trust but verify".

songbird · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2012, 07:03:42 PM »

$30 million! I can't believe it! Has anyone seen the land and the blue print? Is it really written in stone? IF SSPX is taken over one way or another be it N.O. or any new order, this $30 mill. project will not be the SSPX that you know to be SSPX. The New Order is all under restructuring. It means that all churches will be decreased by 20%. That means closures or mergers. IF SSPX goes to N.O. it would lose all their properties to N.O.. IF SSPX makes their own split, again, this $30 mill. project belongs to WHO? Maybe it is a hoax, because we don't have those many interested in being priest. The numbers have dropped over 50 years, who would expect a rise. In fact, the N.O. expects priests to resign when these N.O. churches fold. They expect the acceptance of married priest and women and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs to be priest. We have that now, but this will be highly excepted. in my opinion, I would give no money over to SSPX as long as there is turmoil and keep you money for those priest who will need a haven.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #37 on:** October 02, 2012, 08:34:14 PM »

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$30 million! I can't believe it! Has anyone seen the land and the blue print? Is it really written in stone? IF SSPX is taken over one way or another be it N.O. or any new order, this $30 mill. project will not be the SSPX that you know to be SSPX. The New Order is all under restructuring. It means that all churches will be decreased by 20%. That means closures or mergers. IF SSPX goes to N.O. it would lose all their properties to N.O.. IF SSPX makes their own split, again, this $30 mill. project belongs to WHO? Maybe it is a hoax, because we don't have those many interested in being priest. .

I have seen the blue prints, have not seen the actual land but I know where it is, and the person organising the project is a very long time friend of SSPX and a good Catholic. It is easy to look up this type of information to verify building permits.

The person said that the Novus Ordo bishops refused to sell vacant properties to SSPX. The project must be completed in 5 years. One good thing for the seminarians will be access to world class sacred art and music in DC-I believe it was Fr. La Roux who mentioned this.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #38 on:** October 02, 2012, 08:44:40 PM »

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One good thing for the seminarians will be access to world class sacred art and music in DC-I believe it was Fr. La Roux who mentioned this.

It's undoubtedly about warmer weather and being close to the Capital, I don't doubt that.

Winona is in the rural Catholic heartland of the upper midwest - pretty centrally located, a great place for missionary work in small Catholic communities.

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Being in proximity to DC on the other hand, will be advantageous for a theological and political shift towards the Newchurch.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #39 on:** October 02, 2012, 08:54:07 PM »

With the way the SSPX is headed these days maybe it's for the best they move away from the rural Catholic heartland.