I'm sorry to hear about the priest acting so rudely.  Has he been unpleasant on other occasions?

Yes.  He has been rude to many people on many occasions.  It has become progressively worse over the last few months.

If you left the SSPX chapel, is there a sede chapel or an independent chapel that you could assist?

Yes.  There is an independent chapel about an hour from us.  We assist at Mass there on occasion.  We are confident that the priest was properly ordained and that the sacraments are valid.  Is he sede?  Not certain, but this is not necessarily a condition for us, at this time.  Others might disagree.  

Or would you become a home aloner?  In the absence of any traditional chapels, this would be an acceptable alternative.

 

We were home alone for a few months when we left NO.  It was a terrible and trying time.  Our children suffered.  We managed to get through it, but I pray we don't have to do so again in the future.

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Our priest today publicly chastised those of us who visit internet forums and criticize the superiors of the Society.  He gave a sermon on Obedience as taught by St. Ignatius.  He even went so far as to say "if you superiors tell you black is white then you must believe it."  He said, also, that he has been to these forums and read some of the comments criticizing Bishop Fellay and Fr. Rostand, and that those who are doing this are no true Catholics, but Catholics without charity.

I read this to my 19 year old daughter.  She was shocked.  She suggested that if this ever happened at the SSPX chapel we attend about twice a month she would stand up immediately and tell father (during his sermon) that this is evil.  

If a "superior" (and please note that there are no SSPX priests who have jurisdiction over the lay faithful, so neither he nor Bishop Fellay is a legitimate superior of any of the laity) commands us to believe what is opposed to reason (e.g., "black is white") then he is a cult leader, a wolf in sheep's clothing.  

Has it really come down to this?  Is the SSPX being transformed into a cult?  Just yesterday I would never have believed it.  I am beginning to become unsure.

I am sure there must have been be a quiproquo somewhere. St Ignatius in his Rules for Thinking with the Church indeed did write:

Thirteenth Rule. To be right in everything, we ought always to hold that the white which I see, is black, if the Hierarchical Church so decides it, believing that between Christ our Lord, the Bridegroom, and the Church, His Bride, there is the same Spirit which governs and directs us for the salvation of our souls. Because by the same Spirit and our Lord Who gave the ten Commandments, our holy Mother the Church is directed and governed.

The thing is, Saint Ignatius was a soldier, and knew how to follow orders. This does not mean that what he said, in this particular circuмstance, should be the position we adopt. Even Saint Peter was castigated publicly when he was wrong, by Saint Paul. I doubt Saint Ignatius would disagree with Saint Paul in his "to the face" resistance.

A Text of Cajetan's on Prayer

"... since it is matter reserved for God -- the removal from this world of a still believing but incorrigible Pope."

Hobbledehoy,

Is Cajetan saying he agrees with the sedevacantist position?

(I'm not a sede, by the way.)

$30 million!  I can't believe it!  Has anyone seen the land and the blue print?  Is it really written  in stone?  IF SSPX is taken over one way or another be it N.O. or any new order, this $30 mill. project will not be the SSPX that you know to be SSPX.  The New Order is all under restructuring.  It means that all churches will be decreased by 20%.  That means closures or mergers.  IF SSPX goes  to N.O. it would lose all their properties to N.O..  IF SSPX makes their own split, again, this $30 mill. project belongs to WHO?  Maybe it is a hoax, because we don't have those many interested in being priest.  The numbers have dropped over 50 years, who would expect a rise.  In fact, the N.O. expects priests to resign when these N.O. churches fold.  They expect the acceptance of married priest and women and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs to be priest.  We have that now, but this will be highly excepted.  in my opinion, I would give no money over to SSPX as long as there is turmoil and keep you money for those priest who will need a haven.

One good thing for the seminarians will be access to world class sacred art and music in DC-I believe it was Fr. La Roux who mentioned this.

It's undoubtedly about warmer weather and being close to the Capital, I don't doubt that.  

Winona is in the rural Catholic heartland of the upper midwest - pretty centrally located, a great place for missionary work in small Catholic communities.

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Being in proximity to DC on the other hand, will be advantageous for a theological and political shift towards the Newchurch.