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Novus Ordo SSPX????
« on: September 23, 2012, 07:57:30 PM »
I left Mass today very confused and disturbed.  My husband left with the same impression, only he is prone to hot-headedness, so he was a bit angry as well.

Our priest today publicly chastised those of us who visit internet forums and criticize the superiors of the Society.  He gave a sermon on Obedience as taught by St. Ignatius.  He even went so far as to say "if you superiors tell you black is white then you must believe it."  He said, also, that he has been to these forums and read some of the comments criticizing Bishop Fellay and Fr. Rostand, and that those who are doing this are no true Catholics, but Catholics without charity.

Worse, he compared those critical of the Society to Protestants, inferring that this is what Martin Luther did.  He said we are wrong to think we can "form our own opinions" about what is happening within the Society.

He also said, and I will try to say it like he did, "Does this mean we should come here if there are clown Masses?  No. But we cannot criticize and examine every decision that the superiors make."

Here is my confusion:  So it is okay to criticize the Novus Ordo Mass and the conciliar church, but it is not okay to do that within the Society?

It is okay to question the validity of Masses at Novus Ordo, but not so at the chapels within the Society?

It is okay to question and examine the actions and behaviors of Novus Ordo bishops and priests, but not those of the Society?

We are not to have blind obedience to Diocesan priests and bishops but we are in the Society?

When we tried to speak with our priest after Mass, he was cold and harsh.  

Worse, we had a large family there that I have never seen before.  I doubt they will ever come back.  Who would blame them??

This is down right wrong in every way.

Is this what the Society is about---they are the Church?  They know everything?  Their superiors and priests are beyond reproach?

Here's what I know for certain:  Priests are reading the forums and scouring Youtube for videos that people have posted.  It wouldn't surprise me if they start asking people to leave because they are causing problems.  I also know personally that some priests are confronting people and asking them to choose sides.  This is EVIL!!!

We are not far from leaving this chapel.  Today was "strike one."  

Do they even CARE what they are doing to the faithful???!!!!

Novus Ordo SSPX????
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 08:03:50 PM »
I think this is just another example of the SSPX gone wrong. It's "Opus Fellay" at work again, it's become cultish. That priest needs to study what the Church teaches on obedience - and while he's at it, study the quotes of his founder, Archbishop LeFebvre - before he gives garbage sermons like that.


Novus Ordo SSPX????
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 08:07:31 PM »
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When we tried to speak with our priest after Mass, he was cold and harsh.


They make charity into a cold and disagreeable word, these priests with charity forever on their lips.

Many of them don't even put on an act.

Novus Ordo SSPX????
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 08:16:50 PM »
Using the pulpit as a gun turret is protestant. Your priest did a heinous and disgraceful thing for which he'll answer.
Anyway, that's what anonymous internet forum handles are for   :cool:

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 08:32:14 PM »
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if you superiors tell you black is white then you must believe it.


Alright, so using this absurd logic, then when Benedict tells us that the the TLM and NO are equally valid and that neither Mass is better than the other, that Martin Luther had much "spiritual fervor", that Hans Von Balthasar was a good man with good writings, and that Vatican II was a "great reform for the Church", then we must believe it. Afterall, the Society recognizes Benedict XVI as Pope, and therefore as their superior.

I detect a massive double standard here. The SSPX can disobey the Pope but we can't disobey Bishop Fellay and the Society. I actually hope that priest comes on here and reads this, because he needs to realize just how ridiculous his argument is. The pride, arrogance, double standards, and outright liberalism displayed by some of these pro-Fellay priests is amazing.

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But though we, or an Angel from Heaven, preach a Gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you: let him be anathema!

Galatians 1: 8