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« on: November 09, 2012, 12:15:47 PM »
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  • I was recently told by a SSPX priest that it is okay to go to a NO priest for Confession, but only Confession. The way he explained it, to the best of my understanding, is that Confession is a "personal" sacrament, where as the Mass or Communion is for the Church. He warned me not to attend the NO Mass however, because it can cause the loss of faith, and that the sacrament of Communion may not be valid, and it wasn't worth the risk.

    Does this sound right to you guys? It seemed to make sense to me as he explained it, but I am a bit unsure now.


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    « Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 12:44:52 PM »
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  • Should have posted this in General, sorry. Please move it.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 12:47:35 PM »
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  • I think they call it reconcilliation and it might even be like a group project.
    I personally would NOT go to a NO priest for confession. For me, the whole idea leaving the NO was to find the "Truth" and now that I understand the difference, I would only look for a Traditional Catholic priest that was ordained in the old rite.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 12:57:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: 1stmansiontenant
    I was recently told by a SSPX priest that it is okay to go to a NO priest for Confession, but only Confession. The way he explained it, to the best of my understanding, is that Confession is a "personal" sacrament, where as the Mass or Communion is for the Church. He warned me not to attend the NO Mass however, because it can cause the loss of faith, and that the sacrament of Communion may not be valid, and it wasn't worth the risk.

    Does this sound right to you guys? It seemed to make sense to me as he explained it, but I am a bit unsure now.



    It seems to me that he gave you incomplete advice, unless you've left out part
    of it.  A lot depends on the individual priest.  Is he a good confessor, or is he
    a flaming Modernist?  I have heard of Novus Ordo priests telling obvious lies in
    the confessional.  Not just giving bad advice, but telling bold-faced untruths.
    I could give examples, but I don't want to spread Internet "rumors," to give
    Fr. Rostand more things to complain about.  

    You might keep it real simple and only go there when you have some very
    minor faults to confess, right?  Wrong.  You could very well be told that
    you are 'wasting his time,' and that you shouldn't come to confession like
    this and try to confess things that are not a sin.  Been there, done that.

    So, other examples notwithstanding, you could very well be finding yourself
    prone to losing your faith, or worse, leading your children to go there and
    find out later that they lost THEIR faith by getting the 'grand sewer of all
    heresies' treatment under the guise of a sacrament.  

    It's a mixed bag, and some Novus Ordo priests are very good with the
    sacrament of Penance.  I would suggest that you use that word to try out
    his attitude.  Speak to a priest outside the confessional, and ask him about
    something in regard to the "sacrament of Penance," and watch his reaction.

    If he scoffs, chuckles and/or smirks at you and corrects your term saying
    that it's now referred to as "Reconciliation," then RUN AWAY, and don't look
    back,
    like Lot's wife did!

    If, however, he pauses, and seriously listens to your question and gives you
    the attention it deserves and the respect due to your proper use of the
    Church's Traditional terminology, then it might be worth giving him a try.










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    « Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 01:18:50 PM »
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     it might even be like a group project.
     



     :shocked:


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    « Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 01:23:48 PM »
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  • Why not just go to confession at the SSPX chapel?

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    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 01:28:15 PM »
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  • duh--- what WAS I thinking? I forgot that you can't just go to a Catholic church and get in line for confession before Mass anymore. Now I guess you have to make an appointment for face to face "advice" or something. And probably no "absolvo" either?
    I guess the question I asked the priest was a moot one. I will go stand in the corner now with my dunce cap. Nevermind.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 01:29:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    I was recently told by a SSPX priest that it is okay to go to a NO priest for Confession, but only Confession. The way he explained it, to the best of my understanding, is that Confession is a "personal" sacrament, where as the Mass or Communion is for the Church. He warned me not to attend the NO Mass however, because it can cause the loss of faith, and that the sacrament of Communion may not be valid, and it wasn't worth the risk.

    Does this sound right to you guys? It seemed to make sense to me as he explained it, but I am a bit unsure now.


    If you don't want your sins absolved it is perfectly fine to go.  Also remember not to genuflect before the bread in their tabernacles (if you see a tabernacle there).  Sins can only be absolved by validly ordained Priests.

    The NO is not an option for the authentic Catholic.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    « Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 01:30:53 PM »
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  • Didn't read your last post before responding to your earlier post just so you know.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 01:34:59 PM »
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  • Matthew, you can delete this whole thread now, as far as I am concerned. Unless you think I may need to have my nose rubbed in it in the future.  Thank you guys for pointing out the flaw in my reasoning. Now, I am going to go have that cup of coffee.


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    « Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 01:52:30 PM »
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  • you have to remember we are in extraordinary times, and sometimes we have need of an extraordinary confesser....   we used to have visiting priests, dont see much of them now.....  i could say more...but ... :scared2:


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    « Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 02:09:04 PM »
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    you have to remember we are in extraordinary times, and sometimes we have need of an extraordinary confesser....   we used to have visiting priests, dont see much of them now.....  i could say more...but ... :scared2:


    It's true that we're in a very difficult situation, but it's very necessary that we stay "true" to the Faith and not "settle" for anything else. If need be (and I have done this), I'd drive a long distance to find a "true" traditional priest to hear my confession.  

    It's either Right or it's wrong and I always refer back to what the saints, popes, priests etc.. (as a guide) have always done throught tradition to confirm this. I'm not in favour of grey areas and always look for it in black or white.  

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    « Reply #12 on: November 09, 2012, 02:30:13 PM »
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  • "...If you don't want your sins absolved it is perfectly fine to go.  Also remember not to genuflect before the bread in their tabernacles (if you see a tabernacle there).  Sins can only be absolved by validly ordained Priests.

    The NO is not an option for the authentic Catholic..."

    If there is a tabernacle on the altar with the door closed, I am genuflecting.

    It is bad advice to say it is just bread, don't genuflect.


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    « Reply #13 on: November 09, 2012, 02:46:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    I was recently told by a SSPX priest that it is okay to go to a NO priest for Confession


    I was told that three years ago by an SSPX priest.  French.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 09, 2012, 02:56:44 PM »
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  • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    duh--- what WAS I thinking? I forgot that you can't just go to a Catholic church and get in line for confession before Mass anymore. Now I guess you have to make an appointment for face to face "advice" or something. And probably no "absolvo" either?
    I guess the question I asked the priest was a moot one. I will go stand in the corner now with my dunce cap. Nevermind.



    Here. You can borrow mine for a while:    :tinfoil:  


    But seriously, this could be interesting.  

    Can't you just sit back and enjoy the show?   :popcorn:




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