Author Topic: Not all resistance priest hood the opinion of Frs. Chazal and Pfeiffer (Read 1445 times)

Centroamerica · « **on:** December 26, 2013, 05:27:54 PM »

I just simply wanted to inform this forum that not all resistance priests accept the papacy of Francis. A very well-known resistance priest last week informed the family that owns the resistance chapel I attend Mass at that he does not pray Francis in the canon because he does not believe Francis is pope. He assured us that he is not a sedevacantist and that he prays for "Los Pedros" in the Mass.

It's no secret. I won't name names in this forum. I just thought it interesting that Frs Chazal and Pfeiffer always speak, but are not speaking for all resistance priests.

Wessex · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2013, 07:43:20 PM »

It is difficult to know precisely what these priests do have in common except a dislike of modern doctrine and liturgy. But ask some of them whether they reject the conciliar bill of fare and they will hedge from now until kingdom come. We have to understand that resistance may be merely a euphemism for not being on the diocesan and SSPX payroll and any gathering of same priests may be proof of disunity just as much as unity. We have the example of SSPX Chapter meetings to appreciate the big lie raised to an artform.

We are then back to definitions again and copious discussions as to the meaning of traditionalism. When put to the test many a website ostensibly devoted to its promotion has collapsed in disarray. Until trad priests and laity stop fudging fundamental issues the SSPX syndrome will continue to spread and nothing will be resolved.

Frances · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2013, 08:29:29 PM »

:dancing-banana:
Fathers Pfeiffer and Chazal do not claim to speak for all resistance priests.

Nadir · « **Reply #3 on:** December 27, 2013, 08:48:49 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

Until trad priests and laity stop fudging fundamental issues the SSPX syndrome will continue to spread and nothing will be resolved.

I have very little experience of the Resistance. Even the word is very vague. Resistance to what exactly? I have only been to Masses offered by Fr Chazal and have no other "resistance" experience. He seems to preach the resistance and anti-sedevacantism rather than the Faith, so it's hard for me to know. But that's my limited experience.

Do you think you could expound on the above quote, Wessex? What is the SSPX syndrome?

JPaul · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2013, 10:17:21 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

It is difficult to know precisely what these priests do have in common except a dislike of modern doctrine and liturgy. But ask some of them whether they reject the conciliar bill of fare and they will hedge from now until kingdom come. We have to understand that resistance may be merely a euphemism for not being on the diocesan and SSPX payroll and any gathering of same priests may be proof of disunity just as much as unity. We have the example of SSPX Chapter meetings to appreciate the big lie raised to an artform.

We are then back to definitions again and copious discussions as to the meaning of traditionalism. When put to the test many a website ostensibly devoted to its promotion has collapsed in disarray. Until trad priests and laity stop fudging fundamental issues the SSPX syndrome will continue to spread and nothing will be resolved.

Yes, until they come out from under the Conciliar umbrella and into a fudge free zone of thinking. We have reached the end, there is no where left to kick the can.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2013, 10:23:15 PM »

So... this priest... we know who and what he's resisting. Who is he recognizing?

Centroamerica · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2013, 10:17:51 AM »

Quote from: Mithrandylan

So... this priest... we know who and what he's resisting. Who is he recognizing?

In his response to us that he prays for "Los Pedros" I assumed he was admitting that he simply does not know and does not want to err in his judgement. God will not ask us when we die, "did you figure out who was the pope or not?" so frankly I'm not worried about the question of the pope.

When I asked him about the sedeprivationist position he replied that it is a possibility. Though I don't believe that is his position or he would've said it in the discussion.