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Author Topic: No Leonine Prayers at Sanford Florida Priory Masses  (Read 4632 times)

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Re: No Leonine Prayers at Sanford Florida Priory Masses
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2018, 12:12:25 PM »
Or just maybe there's an actual legitimate reason?

"From May 3rd to September 14th, using a relic of the True Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ, there is a special blessing which asks God’s protection against violent storms that frequently occur during these summer months. It is customarily given after Low Masses during this time." - courtesy of St. Francis de Sales Oratory in St. Louis, Missouri.
It does not say that the Leonine Prayers are omitted from May 3rd to September 14th. I do not see anything wrong with weather blessings, just the omission of the Leonine Prayers. Like I said, they can easily both be done, there is no reason to eliminate the Leonine Prayers. 

Re: No Leonine Prayers at Sanford Florida Priory Masses
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2018, 12:18:12 PM »
It does not say that the Leonine Prayers are omitted from May 3rd to September 14th. I do not see anything wrong with weather blessings, just the omission of the Leonine Prayers. Like I said, they can easily both be done, there is no reason to eliminate the Leonine Prayers.
As a general proposition, if other prayers are to be said, the Leonine Prayers are omitted. For example, they are omitted at our chapel on First Fridays, when Exposition and the public Rosary are said. They could do both, but that is not consistent with the rubrics.


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Re: No Leonine Prayers at Sanford Florida Priory Masses
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2018, 12:21:33 PM »
I didn't see him after mass, and I assume the people that go to that chapel have already asked him, since it is their problem, not mine. I just found it odd.

My question is: Do they omit the Leonine Prayers in France?
Yes.

About 3 or 4 years ago we had a priest replace our Prior in our SSPX chapel, he was from Europe, (not sure where) and he omitted the Leonin prayers. The people were upset about it and I think it was two weeks after that he announced the reason for the omission is because it is only a custom in America, he said they don't say those prayers in Europe. Although he was in America for another two years or so, he never said them after Mass.

Re: No Leonine Prayers at Sanford Florida Priory Masses
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 12:24:57 PM »
As a general proposition, if other prayers are to be said, the Leonine Prayers are omitted. For example, they are omitted at our chapel on First Fridays, when Exposition and the public Rosary are said. They could do both, but that is not consistent with the rubrics.
So, the Leonine prayers can eliminated as a practice for 6 months out of the year during hurricane season?

How about on Sunday, when neither the Leonine prayers nor the weather Blessing were said.

Re: No Leonine Prayers at Sanford Florida Priory Masses
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 12:29:59 PM »
Yes.

About 3 or 4 years ago we had a priest replace our Prior in our SSPX chapel, he was from Europe, (not sure where) and he omitted the Leonin prayers. The people were upset about it and I think it was two weeks after that he announced the reason for the omission is because it is only a custom in America, he said they don't say those prayers in Europe. Although he was in America for another two years or so, he never said them after Mass.
Well, there you go. That's what I thought. No wonder Europe has lost the faith (In France, less than 4% of Catholics go to mass and the other countries aren't much better off)

Anyhow,  what goes on in other countries is no concern of ours, we have our long standing customs and that is what we need to hold on to and have others respect.