Author Topic: Nightmare in Boston - Lies, swindling, etc. by Pablo (Read 59846 times)

Servus Pius · « **Reply #75 on:** May 28, 2016, 03:14:55 PM »

Quote from: Constance

Dear Faithful,
I really am so humbled by the many kind words I have received on this site, and privately in my email. I am so very grateful and you have helped me tremendously. More importantly we are making a difference and there will be big changes.

There is one important event that should be noted. This would fit in between 56 & 57 of my open letter. It is important because it shows the manipulation involved as well as Father Pfeiffer's awareness of the steps I was taking.

After I had a possible sale of my business, Fr. Pfeiffer called and asked for Mass with less than 24 hours notice. I did let him know again that I had a buyer and he confirmed that he was aware, again confirming that Pablo was communicating as a type of administrator. We are a brand new mission. It is Friday, I am at work. I agree to put it together, and as we all know this involves quite a bit of set up, renting of a hall (in our case), and trying to notify people in time. Also, there are the food requirements for after Mass. Within a couple of hours at the most, Pablo calls and asks for plane fare. He states that it must be deposited in a Chase bank, which is unavailable in my area. Keep in mind, we have not made a request to have Mass at any time in the near future. I gather some funds from the 4 of us here in Windsor and head across the border to Detroit, as directed to make a deposit. The account number I am provided is not attached to OLMC Boston KY, nor Fr. Pfeiffer. I do not make the deposit. The bank teller cannot tell me the name of the account holder, but she does tell me that it is "no where near Kentucky". After a couple of hours, leaving text and voice messages to both Fr. Pfeiffer and Pablo, parked in downtown Detroit, trying to determine if I should just head back thru customs and deliver the money tomorrow, or go to another Chase bank that is open (and hope in the meantime to get the right account number) because now the one downtown is closed, I head back through the tunnel. Of course, midway I finally get a text with a different account number – from Pablo. A friend says to me "there is nothing more important than the Mass." I turn around, rerun customs and locate a bank open later, miles away. The 2 account numbers weren't in any way similar. It wasn't just a typo, nor were they the same number of characters. I wonder now why Fr. couldn’t wait until the following day to receive the monies, and to whose account I was making this deposit. When I explained this to Fr. Hewko, he stated that they often do not have the funds to pay for airfare. We didn’t ask him to come that weekend. We are a new group and we didn’t have enough time to get the word out to those that might be interested in Tradition. Again, it drained at least 2 of us of our funds.

Now, to me, they are holding out the Eucharist as a carrot to drain us of funds when the funds we have already provided are so gravely mismanaged.

Of course I am also suspicious as to the account owner - with good reason.

Thankyou again. Let us keep up the good fight in prayer and action.

Sorry to say this but you ALLOWED yourself to get fooled. You ALLOWED them to manipulate you.

To get fooled once is ok, learn from the experience. But to get fooled TWICE, THRICE is a different story. You ALLOWED this abuse to happen.

Matthew · « **Reply #76 on:** May 28, 2016, 03:30:14 PM »

Quote from: Servus Pius

Sorry to say this but you ALLOWED yourself to get fooled. You ALLOWED them to manipulate you.

To get fooled once is ok, learn from the experience. But to get fooled TWICE, THRICE is a different story. You ALLOWED this abuse to happen.

Yes, this story is frustrating to read, but at least Constance woke up and admitted the truth eventually. That takes courage.

To use an analogy -- You don't chastise a repentant, penitent sinner. Save your wrath for the impenitent ones! (I'm not saying Constance sinned; I'm using sin and repentance of sin as an analogy).

Or to use another analogy, you don't need to chastise or berate a new convert to Tradition from the Novus Ordo. Why take them to task? They're here now. How about you save your energy for those STILL IN the Novus Ordo, who still don't get it.

Don't keep slapping the person who finally woke up -- how about you slap those who are still asleep? And toss some cold water on them for good measure!

Recusant Sede · « **Reply #77 on:** May 28, 2016, 03:38:36 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Don't keep slapping the person who finally woke up -- how about you slap those who are still asleep? And toss some cold water on them for good measure!

This is how I feel about non-sedes......I thought you'd like that Matthew! :roll-laugh1:

Just kidding. :roll-laugh2:

For what it's worth, I agree with your analogies.

Servus Pius · « **Reply #78 on:** May 28, 2016, 03:56:11 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Servus Pius

Sorry to say this but you ALLOWED yourself to get fooled. You ALLOWED them to manipulate you.

To get fooled once is ok, learn from the experience. But to get fooled TWICE, THRICE is a different story. You ALLOWED this abuse to happen.

Yes, this story is frustrating to read, but at least Constance woke up and admitted the truth eventually. That takes courage.

To use an analogy -- You don't chastise a repentant, penitent sinner. Save your wrath for the impenitent ones! (I'm not saying Constance sinned; I'm using sin and repentance of sin as an analogy).

Or to use another analogy, you don't need to chastise or berate a new convert to Tradition from the Novus Ordo. Why take them to task? They're here now. How about you save your energy for those STILL IN the Novus Ordo, who still don't get it.

Don't keep slapping the person who finally woke up -- how about you slap those who are still asleep? And toss some cold water on them for good measure!

Yes Mr.Matthew, you are right. Ms.Constance, I apologize. Please allow me this opportunity to instead Re-direct my message to others out there who still don't get it (particularly those who are still under the spell of the Dynamic duo of Fr.Joe Pfeifer and Pablo) nothing to do with Batman and Robin.

cathman7 · « **Reply #79 on:** May 28, 2016, 04:16:34 PM »

So what will it take for people to once and for all leave Boston? Will this be the last draw?

Constance · « **Reply #80 on:** May 28, 2016, 05:55:34 PM »

Quote from: Servus Pius

Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: Servus Pius

Sorry to say this but you ALLOWED yourself to get fooled. You ALLOWED them to manipulate you.

To get fooled once is ok, learn from the experience. But to get fooled TWICE, THRICE is a different story. You ALLOWED this abuse to happen.

Yes, this story is frustrating to read, but at least Constance woke up and admitted the truth eventually. That takes courage.

To use an analogy -- You don't chastise a repentant, penitent sinner. Save your wrath for the impenitent ones! (I'm not saying Constance sinned; I'm using sin and repentance of sin as an analogy).

Or to use another analogy, you don't need to chastise or berate a new convert to Tradition from the Novus Ordo. Why take them to task? They're here now. How about you save your energy for those STILL IN the Novus Ordo, who still don't get it.

Don't keep slapping the person who finally woke up -- how about you slap those who are still asleep? And toss some cold water on them for good measure!

Yes Mr.Matthew, you are right. Ms.Constance, I apologize. Please allow me this opportunity to instead Re-direct my message to others out there who still don't get it (particularly those who are still under the spell of the Dynamic duo of Fr.Joe Pfeifer and Pablo) nothing to do with Batman and Robin.

In regards to blaming the victims: If humanity were as smart as those of you "who get it" then we wouldn't have needed Jesus Christ to overcome the devil. Look, even Mr. & Mrs. Pfeiffer have "allowed" themselves to be fooled. Maybe we weren't exactly fooled, as you think. Maybe we just keep overlooking these abuses and offering them up. We turn the other cheek - for a while. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer's offering of their property was poured out to our Lord as a sacrifice. We are admonished to give our 2nd coat, to not ask the return of a borrowed item, to give, give, give. We aren't as foolish as you think. We are just givers, and we do it in the Name of Christ. Just because I have now decided to expose the situation doesn't mean I was so foolish in making sacrifices and turning the other cheek. It just means that there is enough trouble there for a major intervention and that assistance is needed. I hoped and prayed that my sacrifices would be used to straighten this mess up and move us forward to the Reign of Mary. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer are hoping a praying for their lost son, Fr. Pfeiffer.

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #81 on:** May 28, 2016, 06:13:26 PM »

Rather than being chastised for naivete, Constance should be praised for attempting to bring the benefits of a cloistered Carmelite convent to the North American resistance. Her life-long desire to glorify God and save souls by prayer and contemplation caused her to play into the hands of deceivers. I'm glad her life-savings were spared, and that her desire to start a religious order wasn't extinguished by her experience.

My family considered moving to Boston early on, and I am now very thankful that we didn't.

Please Constance, post on CI and let us know how to support this worthy endeavor.
I will be praying that Our Lady of Mount Carmel will lift up your efforts to her most Holy Son.

Miseremini · « **Reply #82 on:** May 28, 2016, 06:23:03 PM »

Just how does a lay person go about founding a religious order?

Does any and every priest have the faculty to establish an order on his own power?
I didn't think that was possible.

Can a bishop do it? Would it be universal?

In the past religious orders had to be invited into a diocese but I suppose it would go the way of the SSPX now but I still don't know who has the faculty to establish the order in the beginning.

In reading the lives of many saints, I think it was always a Bishop at least who gave permission to establish a rule and order.

St. Francis got his permission from the Pope.

Constance, please advise.

Miseremini · « **Reply #83 on:** May 28, 2016, 06:34:36 PM »

Quote from: Constance

In regards to blaming the victims: If humanity were as smart as those of you "who get it" then we wouldn't have needed Jesus Christ to overcome the devil. Look, even Mr. & Mrs. Pfeiffer have "allowed" themselves to be fooled. Maybe we weren't exactly fooled, as you think. Maybe we just keep overlooking these abuses and offering them up. We turn the other cheek - for a while. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer's offering of their property was poured out to our Lord as a sacrifice. We are admonished to give our 2nd coat, to not ask the return of a borrowed item, to give, give, give. We aren't as foolish as you think. We are just givers, and we do it in the Name of Christ. Just because I have now decided to expose the situation doesn't mean I was so foolish in making sacrifices and turning the other cheek. It just means that there is enough trouble there for a major intervention and that assistance is needed. I hoped and prayed that my sacrifices would be used to straighten this mess up and move us forward to the Reign of Mary. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer are hoping a praying for their lost son, Fr. Pfeiffer.

I agree with offering sacrifice but I believe there comes a point when sacrifice and charity become condoning and enabling and it is at THIS POINT that we must stop and walk away.

I have the highest respect and admiration for Mr & Mrs P. but I do believe they have indugled their child too much OR they are the victims of elder abuse.

Matthew · « **Reply #84 on:** May 28, 2016, 06:49:25 PM »

Quote from: Constance

In regards to blaming the victims: If humanity were as smart as those of you "who get it" then we wouldn't have needed Jesus Christ to overcome the devil. Look, even Mr. & Mrs. Pfeiffer have "allowed" themselves to be fooled. Maybe we weren't exactly fooled, as you think. Maybe we just keep overlooking these abuses and offering them up. We turn the other cheek - for a while. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer's offering of their property was poured out to our Lord as a sacrifice. We are admonished to give our 2nd coat, to not ask the return of a borrowed item, to give, give, give. We aren't as foolish as you think. We are just givers, and we do it in the Name of Christ. Just because I have now decided to expose the situation doesn't mean I was so foolish in making sacrifices and turning the other cheek. It just means that there is enough trouble there for a major intervention and that assistance is needed. I hoped and prayed that my sacrifices would be used to straighten this mess up and move us forward to the Reign of Mary. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer are hoping a praying for their lost son, Fr. Pfeiffer.

As I said earlier, this is the same situation as loving someone and then being betrayed by that person -- whether by abuse, infidelity, etc.

Was it the victim's fault for trusting and loving? Of course not. Without love and trust, life isn't worth living.

I do believe Catholics are easy targets, since they are charitable, they think the best of others, and they are innocent. "To the clean, all things are clean." For an honest person, it's hard to believe someone would lie to you. To a just man, it's hard to believe someone would actually cheat or steal from you. For a chaste woman, it's hard to imagine a man would be unchaste.

How many young boys have trusted their priests, and later got abused and betrayed by them? But you certainly can't blame the boys -- priests are supposed to be holy ministers of God!

It works in reverse too: a liar has a hard time believing others. And an immoral (unchaste) person has a hard time believing anyone else can be chaste. And a thief suspects everyone is trying to steal from him.

Shame on the man/woman who takes advantage of a person, and betrays that love and trust! But there is no shame in loving, which inherently makes us vulnerable.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #85 on:** May 28, 2016, 06:56:14 PM »

Quote from: Constance

Quote from: Servus Pius
Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: Servus Pius

Sorry to say this but you ALLOWED yourself to get fooled. You ALLOWED them to manipulate you.

To get fooled once is ok, learn from the experience. But to get fooled TWICE, THRICE is a different story. You ALLOWED this abuse to happen.

Yes, this story is frustrating to read, but at least Constance woke up and admitted the truth eventually. That takes courage.

To use an analogy -- You don't chastise a repentant, penitent sinner. Save your wrath for the impenitent ones! (I'm not saying Constance sinned; I'm using sin and repentance of sin as an analogy).

Or to use another analogy, you don't need to chastise or berate a new convert to Tradition from the Novus Ordo. Why take them to task? They're here now. How about you save your energy for those STILL IN the Novus Ordo, who still don't get it.

Don't keep slapping the person who finally woke up -- how about you slap those who are still asleep? And toss some cold water on them for good measure!

Yes Mr.Matthew, you are right. Ms.Constance, I apologize. Please allow me this opportunity to instead Re-direct my message to others out there who still don't get it (particularly those who are still under the spell of the Dynamic duo of Fr.Joe Pfeifer and Pablo) nothing to do with Batman and Robin.

In regards to blaming the victims: If humanity were as smart as those of you "who get it" then we wouldn't have needed Jesus Christ to overcome the devil. Look, even Mr. & Mrs. Pfeiffer have "allowed" themselves to be fooled. Maybe we weren't exactly fooled, as you think. Maybe we just keep overlooking these abuses and offering them up. We turn the other cheek - for a while. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer's offering of their property was poured out to our Lord as a sacrifice. We are admonished to give our 2nd coat, to not ask the return of a borrowed item, to give, give, give. We aren't as foolish as you think. We are just givers, and we do it in the Name of Christ. Just because I have now decided to expose the situation doesn't mean I was so foolish in making sacrifices and turning the other cheek. It just means that there is enough trouble there for a major intervention and that assistance is needed. I hoped and prayed that my sacrifices would be used to straighten this mess up and move us forward to the Reign of Mary. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer are hoping a praying for their lost son, Fr. Pfeiffer.

I am sorry for this whole situation. I am sorry if what I have written has led you to this predicament. I never intended to hurt anyone, deceive anyone or cause any problems. I want to help people whenever I can.

When I wrote my blog, and when I left, the seminary had in place certain things that I thought would make the difference, and allow the seminary to improve in its operations and management. I wrote my blog with this in mind, optimistic for the next phase in the life at the seminary.

Perhaps I was too optimistic, maybe even naive, about the prospects and the potential.

Please keep my family in your prayers.

Recusant Sede · « **Reply #86 on:** May 28, 2016, 07:04:36 PM »

Quote from: ManuelChavez

Quote from: Constance
Quote from: Servus Pius
Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: Servus Pius

Sorry to say this but you ALLOWED yourself to get fooled. You ALLOWED them to manipulate you.

To get fooled once is ok, learn from the experience. But to get fooled TWICE, THRICE is a different story. You ALLOWED this abuse to happen.

Yes, this story is frustrating to read, but at least Constance woke up and admitted the truth eventually. That takes courage.

To use an analogy -- You don't chastise a repentant, penitent sinner. Save your wrath for the impenitent ones! (I'm not saying Constance sinned; I'm using sin and repentance of sin as an analogy).

Or to use another analogy, you don't need to chastise or berate a new convert to Tradition from the Novus Ordo. Why take them to task? They're here now. How about you save your energy for those STILL IN the Novus Ordo, who still don't get it.

Don't keep slapping the person who finally woke up -- how about you slap those who are still asleep? And toss some cold water on them for good measure!

Yes Mr.Matthew, you are right. Ms.Constance, I apologize. Please allow me this opportunity to instead Re-direct my message to others out there who still don't get it (particularly those who are still under the spell of the Dynamic duo of Fr.Joe Pfeifer and Pablo) nothing to do with Batman and Robin.

In regards to blaming the victims: If humanity were as smart as those of you "who get it" then we wouldn't have needed Jesus Christ to overcome the devil. Look, even Mr. & Mrs. Pfeiffer have "allowed" themselves to be fooled. Maybe we weren't exactly fooled, as you think. Maybe we just keep overlooking these abuses and offering them up. We turn the other cheek - for a while. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer's offering of their property was poured out to our Lord as a sacrifice. We are admonished to give our 2nd coat, to not ask the return of a borrowed item, to give, give, give. We aren't as foolish as you think. We are just givers, and we do it in the Name of Christ. Just because I have now decided to expose the situation doesn't mean I was so foolish in making sacrifices and turning the other cheek. It just means that there is enough trouble there for a major intervention and that assistance is needed. I hoped and prayed that my sacrifices would be used to straighten this mess up and move us forward to the Reign of Mary. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer are hoping a praying for their lost son, Fr. Pfeiffer.

I am sorry for this whole situation. I am sorry if what I have written has led you to this predicament. I never intended to hurt anyone, deceive anyone or cause any problems. I want to help people whenever I can.

When I wrote my blog, and when I left, the seminary had in place certain things that I thought would make the difference, and allow the seminary to improve in its operations and management. I wrote my blog with this in mind, optimistic for the next phase in the life at the seminary.

Perhaps I was too optimistic, maybe even naive, about the prospects and the potential.

Please keep my family in your prayers.

Good for you Martin! I can see you have a good heart and are very charitable, actually you are charitable to a fault. Don't be too hard on yourself, but your job now is to warn others about the dangers of Boston and to try and get your brother and the other seminarians out of there.

Constance · « **Reply #87 on:** May 28, 2016, 07:22:09 PM »

Quote from: Miseremini

Just how does a lay person go about founding a religious order?

Does any and every priest have the faculty to establish an order on his own power?
I didn't think that was possible.

Can a bishop do it? Would it be universal?

In the past religious orders had to be invited into a diocese but I suppose it would go the way of the SSPX now but I still don't know who has the faculty to establish the order in the beginning.

In reading the lives of many saints, I think it was always a Bishop at least who gave permission to establish a rule and order.

St. Francis got his permission from the Pope.

Constance, please advise.

1917 Code of Canon Law
Canon 492 - Bishops not the Vicar Capitulary or the Vicar General can found religious Congregations .... in consultation with the Apostolic See

488:3 - Religious institute of pontifical rite is a religious institute that has secured approval or a least a decree of praise from the Apostolic See: of diocesan right, refers to a religious institute erected by the Ordinary that has not yet obtained a decree of praise by the Ordinary that has not yet obtained a decree of praise;

Often a founder/foundress will have something tangible to provide to a Bishop for his approval. Other times a priest will call for an order to begin. Before St. Francis went to the Pope he already had gathered a community together who were barefoot and in the streets preaching.

Often, the Religious Institute begins out of a need.

A lay person can certainly begin by Rule of Life, Constitutions, opening the door to candidates, responding to a need and servicing that need. He or she makes profession along the way. You have to dig the ground, lay a foundation, build, have a sustaining organization, or at least a good business plan. In "our Father's business" the organization is built by faith in union with Jesus Christ, thus it will be solid and enduring.

It takes time.

Constance · « **Reply #88 on:** May 28, 2016, 07:35:59 PM »

Quote from: Recusant Sede

Quote from: ManuelChavez
Quote from: Constance
Quote from: Servus Pius
Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: Servus Pius

Sorry to say this but you ALLOWED yourself to get fooled. You ALLOWED them to manipulate you.

To get fooled once is ok, learn from the experience. But to get fooled TWICE, THRICE is a different story. You ALLOWED this abuse to happen.

Yes, this story is frustrating to read, but at least Constance woke up and admitted the truth eventually. That takes courage.

To use an analogy -- You don't chastise a repentant, penitent sinner. Save your wrath for the impenitent ones! (I'm not saying Constance sinned; I'm using sin and repentance of sin as an analogy).

Or to use another analogy, you don't need to chastise or berate a new convert to Tradition from the Novus Ordo. Why take them to task? They're here now. How about you save your energy for those STILL IN the Novus Ordo, who still don't get it.

Don't keep slapping the person who finally woke up -- how about you slap those who are still asleep? And toss some cold water on them for good measure!

Yes Mr.Matthew, you are right. Ms.Constance, I apologize. Please allow me this opportunity to instead Re-direct my message to others out there who still don't get it (particularly those who are still under the spell of the Dynamic duo of Fr.Joe Pfeifer and Pablo) nothing to do with Batman and Robin.

In regards to blaming the victims: If humanity were as smart as those of you "who get it" then we wouldn't have needed Jesus Christ to overcome the devil. Look, even Mr. & Mrs. Pfeiffer have "allowed" themselves to be fooled. Maybe we weren't exactly fooled, as you think. Maybe we just keep overlooking these abuses and offering them up. We turn the other cheek - for a while. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer's offering of their property was poured out to our Lord as a sacrifice. We are admonished to give our 2nd coat, to not ask the return of a borrowed item, to give, give, give. We aren't as foolish as you think. We are just givers, and we do it in the Name of Christ. Just because I have now decided to expose the situation doesn't mean I was so foolish in making sacrifices and turning the other cheek. It just means that there is enough trouble there for a major intervention and that assistance is needed. I hoped and prayed that my sacrifices would be used to straighten this mess up and move us forward to the Reign of Mary. I am sure Mr. & Mrs Pfeiffer are hoping a praying for their lost son, Fr. Pfeiffer.

I am sorry for this whole situation. I am sorry if what I have written has led you to this predicament. I never intended to hurt anyone, deceive anyone or cause any problems. I want to help people whenever I can.

When I wrote my blog, and when I left, the seminary had in place certain things that I thought would make the difference, and allow the seminary to improve in its operations and management. I wrote my blog with this in mind, optimistic for the next phase in the life at the seminary.

Perhaps I was too optimistic, maybe even naive, about the prospects and the potential.

Please keep my family in your prayers.

Good for you Martin! I can see you have a good heart and are very charitable, actually you are charitable to a fault. Don't be too hard on yourself, but your job now is to warn others about the dangers of Boston and to try and get your brother and the other seminarians out of there.

Thank you for this Martin. I never believed that you were intentionally misleading anyone. Your family certainly has my prayers. You have a beautiful family.

Pilar · « **Reply #89 on:** May 28, 2016, 08:53:41 PM »

At first I was pretty irritated reading how naive and "vulnerable" Constance allowed herself to be. I understand the idea that we shouldn't take her to task now that she has realized the predicament she got herself into. However, it doesn't seem that she has the least business founding a convent. The foundresses I have read about were not naive nor easily fooled. She is a follower, not a leader. No woman her age, especially an RN, should have been so easily taken in by Fr. Pfeiffer and Pablo, especially after so much negative info on this site. It was poor judgement however you cut it. She should have left the first day she arrived, there were plenty of signs.