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Nightmare in Boston - Lies, swindling, etc. by Pablo
« Reply #180 on: June 01, 2016, 01:54:27 PM »
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    You are wrong. This year's group is the best this seminary has yet seen. These young men will make fine priests and religious. They are not weak-minded. They are strong, and their strength has been put to the test. They have responded to the many tests and tribulations fairly well. I have seen them in action, and I am certain that they will succeed, even if this seminary fails. God is good, and He will guide these seminarians as He sees fit.


    This makes me wonder then: How much better these fine men would be advancing if they were in one of the other resistance seminaries where things are less chaotic, where they were not often left to the supervision of a layman of bad reputation. Fr. Chazal's microseminary is suffering the loss (hopefully temporarily) of Fr Picot due to illness, following Fr Suelo's demise. Seminarians who transferred there, or to the one in France would also have the benefit of bishops who weren't advertising on the backs of matchbooks.


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    « Reply #181 on: June 01, 2016, 02:45:33 PM »
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  • Her story is almost certainly true (having been vouched for by several persons, including those saying "Nevertheless, I don't trust her!", but we should be careful about 100% trusting Constance, who is completely new here and she COULD have an agenda.

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    « Reply #182 on: June 01, 2016, 03:08:48 PM »
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    ...I believe that Boston probably thrives off of people who have grown up or lived in abusive households for long periods of time. The over controlling nature of the cult leader and his henchmen will lure people in who have become used to a certain amount of ceded control and applied pressure. It fits a certain unhealthy self-loathing (as opposed to self-denial). Many times it's a pattern that victims perpetuate throughout their entire lives before they themselves either become perpetrators or accessories. It starts with making excuse after excuse for bad behavior even when it happens right in front of them. For true survivors though, the power to walk away has been developed. I tentatively place you in that category, and I hope in the future you will resist the first stages of it before the cost becomes too great.  


    Not necessarily.  They also exploit the otherwise holy virtue of obedience.  People are told that they must accept the abuse in their quest for holiness ... just as many saints accepted such abuse.  So, out of obedience, and resignation to the will of God, including whatever suffering it might entail, they get sucked into being under the thumb of these cult leaders.  Then the leaders convince these well-intentioned souls that they themselves (the leaders) are the only true quasi-legitimate Catholic "authorities" left in the world, so their perception is that they endure everything out of submission to the will of God.  So they twist otherwise-noble sentiments into a control framework.


    Healthy people can certainly be taken in from time to time, but like the old adage goes "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me."

    How they've manage to keep steamrolling through the years indicates a consistent core of people who are falling in line with a predator-prey relationship. I can't describe Boston as being anything other than predatory and predators are experts at reducing their risk-to-reward. Manipulators at this level instinctively look for wounded personalities. Not every single time mind you, but I can't see them thriving without a steady supply of psychologically damaged people. Hopefully that well is drying up.

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    That's one of the biggest issues I've always had with SSPX, their absolute insistence upon obedience when they themselves are in a state of disobedience to the man they believe is the pope.


    I know you have a rather unique position on this, but that is another argument for another time.

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    « Reply #183 on: June 01, 2016, 03:22:20 PM »
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    Her story is almost certainly true (having been vouched for by several persons, including those saying "Nevertheless, I don't trust her!", but we should be careful about 100% trusting Constance, who is completely new here and she COULD have an agenda.

    For more information, see the thread dedicated to this topic:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Clarification-about-Constance


    Well for one thing she doesn't regret anything she did leading up to those events which lends itself to a certain level of self-assuredness. If she has an agenda, it's to start a religious order. I can't speak for that, but that's her business and I wish her well.

    Either she's the real deal or you have someone who has extremely insider knowledge of this same person masquerading as the victim and as Machiavellian as the Mexican is, I don't quite see him going to those lengths to humiliate CathInfo.

    Ideally, the authorities could get involved but I know that's another level of commitment altogether. I hope she considers it if she hasn't already.

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    « Reply #184 on: June 01, 2016, 04:18:08 PM »
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    Her story is almost certainly true (having been vouched for by several persons, including those saying "Nevertheless, I don't trust her!", but we should be careful about 100% trusting Constance, who is completely new here and she COULD have an agenda.

    For more information, see the thread dedicated to this topic:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Clarification-about-Constance


    Well for one thing she doesn't regret anything she did leading up to those events which lends itself to a certain level of self-assuredness. If she has an agenda, it's to start a religious order. I can't speak for that, but that's her business and I wish her well.

    Either she's the real deal or you have someone who has extremely insider knowledge of this same person masquerading as the victim and as Machiavellian as the Mexican is, I don't quite see him going to those lengths to humiliate CathInfo.

    Ideally, the authorities could get involved but I know that's another level of commitment altogether. I hope she considers it if she hasn't already.



    I don't doubt what she says.  I also wouldn't doubt a little embellishment here and there.  But I don't doubt the crux of what she says.  But just like Pfeiffer and Ambrose were attracted to each other for each of their own ends, so is the case here.  Plus she's a drama queen.


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    « Reply #185 on: November 11, 2016, 02:23:39 PM »
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  • I just spoke with someone today who corroborated various elements of Constance's story -- including much lying, deception, and self-serving by pretty much everyone in power there in Boston, KY.

    Let's put it this way: everything this informant told me lines up perfectly with Pablo and Fr. Pfeiffer as portrayed in Constance's report.

    What I heard about today is an absolute tragedy and a travesty of justice. And Fr. Pfeiffer and Pablo are squarely to blame. They don't care what they have to do to get money in their coffers. They are running a comfortable little scam. The ends (their own comfort, travels, etc.) justify the means -- even sinful means like slander, lying, etc.

    Like any other cult, many families have suffered greatly and given up much for the "good" of the cult leader. In exchange, he takes over their lives and tells them what to think and what to do.
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    « Reply #186 on: November 11, 2016, 08:14:24 PM »
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  •         "What you mean, we can't expand our mission to Guyana?!?"


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  • Greetings.  I spent almost a year in Boston, KY at Our Lady of MT Carmel, from Oct 2014 to Oct 2015, so those in the know know who I am.  I could add a lot of facts to both what Constance writes and clarify many points.  I can affirm  that "Pablo the Mexican" never assisted at Mass on Sundays when I was there, was guilty of many other various and sundry infractions it is unnecessary to detail here, and had the temerity to interfere with me when I was in schola chanting a Requiem, under the pretext of filming.  But the bigger scandal, so far as I am concerned, is Fr Pfeiffer and Fr Hewko.  On the wall beside the door going into the sacristy are portraits of Fr Urban Snyder and Fr Hannifin (who is also buried there) who must be weeping with Our Lady of Sorrows over the damage being done to souls by the proceedings there.  They don't seem to realize that Pablo, who is not the epitomy of all evil nor the devil incarnate, is nevertheless a liability to their reputation, that of the SSPX, and that of Catholics in general.  The real problem here, as in many "Trad" places, is utter lack of authority and refusal to take the consequences for one's actions.  I think Fr Pfeiffer is afraid to dismiss Pablo because of the many "connections" the man has and his experience with management (at least the kind that entails a whip and a chair) and because of an inordinate attachment to the man.  Pablo is just a garden variety megalomaniac who needs to be shown his place.  And a few other situations need desperately addressed as well.  But as it stands, I am afraid these two priests have ruined their reputations.  My suggestion:  Support the apostolate with prayer and assist the members and plant flowers and fix things and attend Mass (to my knowledge nobody has said anything heretical) but do not give a dime to the coffers and let Fr know why.   I wonder if the time has come for us laity to give our clerics some swift kicks where appropriate while clinging to our rosaries for dear life.  
    "One day, through the Rosary and the Scapular, I will save the world,"  Our Lady told St Dominic.  We know the pope ain't going to do it, nor the bishops, and perhaps not even the priests.  End of :incense:.  
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  • Thank you, White Wolf, for your contribution.

    First-hand reports are most highly valued here on CathInfo, where we first and foremost seek the truth in all things. Our charter is to stand for the truth and fight error and evil, in whatever particular form(s) it happens to take.

    CathInfo is about speaking out against evil, regardless of persons. In other words, with zero "human respect".

    I agree that Pablo isn't the Trad equivalent of Adolf Hitler (who The World promotes as the epitome or incarnation of all evil), but he is a megalomaniac (as you say), an apostate, and it is both dangerous and scandalous for such a man to be so intricately associated with a seminary. There is also plenty of evidence in the public record that the man is superstitious: he is fascinated with the devil to an unhealthy degree. Likewise, he has publicly shown a complete lack of Catholic sanity or mindset with regards to the devil, Catholic devotions, and Catholic morality.

    Only the most devout, mature, and respected of laymen would be qualified for the role Pablo holds right now (holding the purse strings for Fr. Pfeiffer's worldwide operation, having all communication go through him, being 2nd-in-command at the seminary, etc.)
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  • "One day, through the Rosary and the Scapular, I will save the world,"  Our Lady told St Dominic.  We know the pope ain't going to do it, nor the bishops, and perhaps not even the priests.  End of :incense:.  
    Thanks to the folks at OLMC, I've been black-listed and barred from Mass and Sacraments at every traditional Catholic venue in my area for going on three years.  

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  • Thanks to the folks at OLMC, I've been black-listed and barred from Mass and Sacraments at every traditional Catholic venue in my area for going on three years.  
    And where is your area? 


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  • Thanks to the folks at OLMC, I've been black-listed and barred from Mass and Sacraments at every traditional Catholic venue in my area for going on three years.  

           "You're a threat to my community!"
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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  • Greetings.  I spent almost a year in Boston, KY at Our Lady of MT Carmel, from Oct 2014 to Oct 2015, so those in the know know who I am.  I could add a lot of facts to both what Constance writes and clarify many points.  I can affirm  that "Pablo the Mexican" never assisted at Mass on Sundays when I was there, was guilty of many other various and sundry infractions it is unnecessary to detail here, and had the temerity to interfere with me when I was in schola chanting a Requiem, under the pretext of filming.  But the bigger scandal, so far as I am concerned, is Fr Pfeiffer and Fr Hewko.  On the wall beside the door going into the sacristy are portraits of Fr Urban Snyder and Fr Hannifin (who is also buried there) who must be weeping with Our Lady of Sorrows over the damage being done to souls by the proceedings there.  They don't seem to realize that Pablo, who is not the epitomy of all evil nor the devil incarnate, is nevertheless a liability to their reputation, that of the SSPX, and that of Catholics in general.  The real problem here, as in many "Trad" places, is utter lack of authority and refusal to take the consequences for one's actions.  I think Fr Pfeiffer is afraid to dismiss Pablo because of the many "connections" the man has and his experience with management (at least the kind that entails a whip and a chair) and because of an inordinate attachment to the man.  Pablo is just a garden variety megalomaniac who needs to be shown his place.  And a few other situations need desperately addressed as well.  But as it stands, I am afraid these two priests have ruined their reputations.  My suggestion:  Support the apostolate with prayer and assist the members and plant flowers and fix things and attend Mass (to my knowledge nobody has said anything heretical) but do not give a dime to the coffers and let Fr know why.   I wonder if the time has come for us laity to give our clerics some swift kicks where appropriate while clinging to our rosaries for dear life.  
    "One day, through the Rosary and the Scapular, I will save the world,"  Our Lady told St Dominic.  We know the pope ain't going to do it, nor the bishops, and perhaps not even the priests.  End of :incense:.  
    I personally know White Wolf and can vouch for the events he has described above as being truthful.  But it only scratches the surface.  I will say this--Kentucky law enforcement is entrenched with Freemasons and the Pfeiffers/Pablo are not friends with the Nelson Co sheriff at all.  So to believe that Pablo has influence with local authorities is bogus because Kentuckians hate Mexicans and any other minorities for that matter.  The KKK is secretly still active here and the Cornbread Mafia operates just a few miles from OLMC down in New Haven and points south.  White Wolf is correct in his assessment that Pablo only has power within the Pfeiffer syndicate.  It would be very easy for Pablo for piss off the wrong local yokel and disappear without a trace.  Pablo uses his Daugherty stooge (not Martin) to do a lot of his dirty work of harassing people.  He's a nobody off the Pfeiffer property and he certainly would never be allowed to step foot in a Lodge around here cause he's not White.  End of story.

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    Re: Nightmare in Boston - Lies, swindling, etc. by Pablo
    « Reply #193 on: June 24, 2017, 08:25:19 PM »
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  • Wow -- what a mess.
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    Re: Nightmare in Boston - Lies, swindling, etc. by Pablo
    « Reply #194 on: June 24, 2017, 11:33:51 PM »
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  • HORRORS...if anything could cause one to lose the faith entirely, it would be reading this thread...traditional catholicism?  CULT ALERT!