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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2016, 06:31:53 PM »
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  • This is what I think is tragic:

    "16.    Based on the information coming in my direction, I became convinced that there is a persecution against the Boston KY effort, against Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko.  I base this on the evidence of service to Agatha by the Fathers, and the apparent wavering of Bsp Williamson, and the evident malice in many writings on Cathinfo.org.  I remain very grateful to the OLMC Boston Fathers and seminarians."

    You seem to be taking your world being turned topsy-turvy rather well, Constance.

    If roles were reversed, and I found out tomorrow that Fr. Pfeiffer was the "good guy" all along and that +Williamson, Fr. Voigt, Fr. Zendejas, Fr. Garcia, etc. were the "bad guys" all along, I'd be questioning my own name. I'd be a basket case. After all, my very perception of reality would have been proven to be completely false. I wouldn't be able to trust my own eyes or ears anymore. My whole reality would have just been inverted -- everything I knew to be true would have been proven false, and vice-versa. I'd probably go insane.

    (NOTE: I'm talking about being bad or good "all along" rather than going bad at some point. I was with the SSPX for years, and I had no problem joining the Resistance when the SSPX started to stray. But the old SSPX I supported WAS the good guy at the time, so that didn't pose any problem. Human beings are frail; human institutions fail. Also, I supported Fr. Pfeiffer in 2012-2013 but that was before his red-lighting, Ambrose Moran, Fr. Tetherow, attack-the-whole-Resistance, fratricidal, OLMC Seminary days. I stopped supporting him as soon as he BECAME a bad guy)

    How could I calmly accept the truth that the evil cesspit of filth (Jєωιѕн Hollywood) is actually a vehicle of God's own truth? I don't think I could. But you have essentially made that move by embracing CathInfo.

    You must have believed we were the worst Catholics in the world.

    Like I said, you are taking this rather well. The only explanation I can come up with is that you knew in your heart all along that we might be telling the truth here. You must have had your doubts early on, or at least for several weeks now. You must be somewhat acclimated or "used to the idea" by now.

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    « Reply #16 on: May 26, 2016, 06:41:16 PM »
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    constance - I will be praying for you.  It is important that you got this message out.  It is going to help.  Pablo is a devil.  And, it is good that you did not slap him, who knows what door that would have opened.  And, the fathers there are in big trouble.  They both said that they believe fr. voigt cursed pablo's son.  That is unbelievable.  

    We have red lighted OLMC, yet this is still going on.  Does anyone else think it wise to pray for the owner of the property, John Pfieffer?  I have heard that he is suffering all of this.  Well, I think we need to pray for him, that he receive the grace to put his foot down and kick pablo to the curb.  He needs to do that and shut down the seminary.  The buck stops at the top, and the fathers appear to be goners.  But, they are not the top.  John Pfeiffer is the top.  

    Saint Servatus, patron saint of foot troubles, pray for us(John Pfieffer).  


    This needs to be said.  I was told by Pablo and other faithful that Fr. J Pfieffer has taken the property over from his father and his brothers.  I am very concerned about Mr. and Mrs Pfeiffer.  It sounds like there was a significant amount of coercion involved.  


    If this is true (which I hope it's not -- and it might not be, since the source is "Pablo"), then I would expect the insanity in Boston, KY to ratchet up to "11" as they take this thing to the next level: a demented combination of Pope Michael and Jonestown.
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    « Reply #17 on: May 26, 2016, 06:43:02 PM »
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    This is what I think is tragic:

    "16.    Based on the information coming in my direction, I became convinced that there is a persecution against the Boston KY effort, against Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko.  I base this on the evidence of service to Agatha by the Fathers, and the apparent wavering of Bsp Williamson, and the evident malice in many writings on Cathinfo.org.  I remain very grateful to the OLMC Boston Fathers and seminarians."

    You seem to be taking your world being turned topsy-turvy rather well, Constance.

    If roles were reversed, and I found out tomorrow that Fr. Pfeiffer was the "good guy" all along and that +Williamson, Fr. Voigt, Fr. Zendejas, Fr. Garcia, etc. were the "bad guys" all along, I'd be questioning my own name. I'd be a basket case. After all, my very perception of reality would have been proven to be completely false. I wouldn't be able to trust my own eyes or ears anymore. My whole reality would have just been inverted -- everything I knew to be true would have been proven false, and vice-versa. I'd probably go insane.

    (NOTE: I'm talking about being bad or good "all along" rather than going bad at some point. I was with the SSPX for years, and I had no problem joining the Resistance when the SSPX started to stray. But the old SSPX I supported WAS the good guy at the time, so that didn't pose any problem. Human beings are frail; human institutions fail. Also, I supported Fr. Pfeiffer in 2012-2013 but that was before his red-lighting, Ambrose Moran, Fr. Tetherow, attack-the-whole-Resistance, fratricidal, OLMC Seminary days. I stopped supporting him as soon as he BECAME a bad guy)

    How could I calmly accept the truth that the evil cesspit of filth (Jєωιѕн Hollywood) is actually a vehicle of God's own truth? I don't think I could. But you have essentially made that move by embracing CathInfo.

    You must have believed we were the worst Catholics in the world.

    Like I said, you are taking this rather well. The only explanation I can come up with is that you knew in your heart all along that we might be telling the truth here. You must have had your doubts early on, or at least for several weeks now. You must be somewhat acclimated or "used to the idea" by now.



    Oh, that should read "I remained very grateful to the Fathers and seminarians for taking care of Agatha last rites and funeral mass & burial.  Past tense.  I was describing the point in time.  I am ashamed of them now, and embarrassed for them.  

    As to the fact that they have done me great harm - I acknowledge that, but i also am comfortable with my prayers and my relationship with my Lord.

    It's not the first time I have been substantially harmed by a member of the clergy.  God uses me for this for some reason.  

     "Although He slay me, yet will I trust Him".  He always takes care of me some how, although not without suffering.  

    I had doubts when the SHTF initially (Fall 2015),  but Agatha's death, and subsequent new mission in my area moved me along "with them".  

    Thanks for your kind words Matthew.  


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    « Reply #18 on: May 26, 2016, 07:12:03 PM »
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    I didn't give him the money. I needed it to start the convent.  Thank God!


    I'm glad that you will start a convent.
    May God bless you and keep you

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    « Reply #19 on: May 26, 2016, 07:19:40 PM »
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    I didn't give him the money. I needed it to start the convent.  Thank God!


    I'm glad that you will start a convent.


    thanks for making me smile.  God Bless.


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    « Reply #20 on: May 26, 2016, 07:20:46 PM »
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  • Hi Constance, as a non-dogmatic sedevacantist and a friend of Father Hewko, I am so sorry for what happened to you and I thank God you escaped that abominable place relatively unscathed.

    I told Father that he should leave there, several times, but to no avail.

    What I really want to see is for Martin D. to corroborate your story and then to publicly condemn Boston, KY.

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    « Reply #21 on: May 26, 2016, 07:25:36 PM »
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    Hi Constance, as a non-dogmatic sedevacantist and a friend of Father Hewko, I am so sorry for what happened to you and I thank God you escaped that abominable place relatively unscathed.

    I told Father that he should leave there, several times, but to no avail.

    What I really want to see is for Martin D. to corroborate your story and then to publicly condemn Boston, KY.


    Are there any REAL men left?

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    « Reply #22 on: May 26, 2016, 07:46:34 PM »
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    Hi Constance, as a non-dogmatic sedevacantist and a friend of Father Hewko, I am so sorry for what happened to you and I thank God you escaped that abominable place relatively unscathed.

    I told Father that he should leave there, several times, but to no avail.

    What I really want to see is for Martin D. to corroborate your story and then to publicly condemn Boston, KY.


    Are there any REAL men left?


    There are. They are few and far between, just like good women, and we still have to bear their faults and weaknesses with patience and understanding, just like they do ours, but they are out there.



    Speaking of MC, just within the past week I was wondering where he's gone. He hasn't posted in a while I think.



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    « Reply #23 on: May 26, 2016, 08:38:51 PM »
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    Speaking of MC, just within the past week I was wondering where he's gone. He hasn't posted in a while I think.


    Considering he hasn't posted FOR or AGAINST Boston, KY in some time, one can only conclude he's remaining silent so he doesn't have to condemn them.

    If he felt the same way as before about Boston, he would continue to post here with an optimistic tone as he had for months. Based on his behavior in the past, we can established that as his modus operandi, at least when no external coercion is applied.

    He was quite the "benefit of the doubt" rose-colored glasses apologist during his posting time here. If he's given up on that, maybe he found out something that troubles him, or maybe he wants to say something but can't find the courage to do so...

    Maybe me mistakenly thinks, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything." Which is ridiculous when applied to something like the Boston, KY cult, where souls are at stake and souls are in danger. Two words: public good.

    Who knows? Maybe Fr. Pfeiffer/Pablo had something to do with Manuel/Martin's disappearance from CI. Isn't his brother still a seminarian? (No one has ever reported otherwise, so we have to assume his brother is still a seminarian there.) That would be a certain "leverage", would it not?
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    « Reply #24 on: May 26, 2016, 08:47:11 PM »
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    Hi Constance, as a non-dogmatic sedevacantist and a friend of Father Hewko, I am so sorry for what happened to you and I thank God you escaped that abominable place relatively unscathed.

    I told Father that he should leave there, several times, but to no avail.

    What I really want to see is for Martin D. to corroborate your story and then to publicly condemn Boston, KY.


    Are there any REAL men left?



    Yes, there are. No one is perfect. Men are prone to defects in action or character. Real men are not perfect, but they are nevertheless men.

    I cannot disagree with anything in your letter, except for the implication that I lied or did not tell the truth in my blog. The seminary had problems, and at the time, I did not consider the problems I faced as being particularly newsworthy.

    Your trials and tribulations are far worse than what I experienced.

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    « Reply #25 on: May 26, 2016, 08:54:21 PM »
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    Hi Constance, as a non-dogmatic sedevacantist and a friend of Father Hewko, I am so sorry for what happened to you and I thank God you escaped that abominable place relatively unscathed.

    I told Father that he should leave there, several times, but to no avail.

    What I really want to see is for Martin D. to corroborate your story and then to publicly condemn Boston, KY.


    Are there any REAL men left?



    Yes, there are. No one is perfect. Men are prone to defects in action or character. Real men are not perfect, but they are nevertheless men.

    I cannot disagree with anything in your letter, except for the implication that I lied or did not tell the truth in my blog. The seminary had problems, and at the time, I did not consider the problems I faced as being particularly newsworthy.

    Your trials and tribulations are far worse than what I experienced.


    And you should convince your brother to leave there ASAP!


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    « Reply #26 on: May 26, 2016, 09:10:22 PM »
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    30.    Fr. Hewko responds by email deferring my concerns to Fr. Pfeiffer.  He states that he believes that Fr. Voigt did curse Santiago and that Pablo is overwhelmed with all the cooking he has to do.  He states that “my concerns are not reason enough to be deprived of the graces I would receive in Holy Week.”

    31.    Fr. Pfeiffer telephones me.  I repeat the events of the email and ask him if he was aware of the conversations, requests and plans that Pablo had been facilitating.  Fr. Pfeiffer stated that he was fully aware of all and that Pablo had indeed maintained open communication with him. Fr. Pfeiffer tells me that it is true that Fr. Voigt cursed Santiago. He tells me he did read my recent email.  I determined that I ought to trust Pablo’s efforts as it was evident that both the Fathers had placed their trust in this man.  I further determined that I will disregard the gossip and proceed forward to rebuild the Kingdom of Christ in whatever small manner I can.  


    This is GRAVE with a capital G.

    Both priests -- including everyone's beloved Fr. Hewko -- believe this evil about Fr. Voigt.

    But here is the question: Are Fr. P and Fr. H denouncing this outrageous crime from the rooftops, for the good of souls, as they should? If they truly believe this ridiculous charge, they need to do everything in their power to "unmask" Fr. Voigt. That is a grave charge: a priest cursing a man and causing his death by diabolical means.

    It seems, rather, that they stand by the charge quietly, without saying much about it. The calumny itself is mostly propagated by Pablo's video and the website(s).

    These 2 priests knew Fr. Voigt very well. They lived and worked side by side with him, much more than I ever have. They can't claim ignorance or "who knows?". How could they honestly believe this horseshit?
    (Sorry, there's no better term for this type of calumny). Have they lost their ever-loving minds? Has Pablo literally cast a spell over them, hypnotized them, or what?

    Ok, I'll grant that Fr. Hewko and Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer are validly ordained priests. But at what point does the level of evil and sin OUTWEIGH the valid Mass they offer up? At what point do you begin RED LIGHTING these two priests, for the sake of your soul?

    There is a lot more to the Catholic Faith than a valid Mass, I'll tell you that much! There is truth, grace, prayer, goodness, peace, order, holiness, Catholic doctrine, and many other things -- many of which are severely lacking at Boston, KY.
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    « Reply #27 on: May 26, 2016, 09:14:48 PM »
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    Hi Constance, as a non-dogmatic sedevacantist and a friend of Father Hewko, I am so sorry for what happened to you and I thank God you escaped that abominable place relatively unscathed.

    I told Father that he should leave there, several times, but to no avail.

    What I really want to see is for Martin D. to corroborate your story and then to publicly condemn Boston, KY.


    Are there any REAL men left?



    Yes, there are. No one is perfect. Men are prone to defects in action or character. Real men are not perfect, but they are nevertheless men.

    I cannot disagree with anything in your letter, except for the implication that I lied or did not tell the truth in my blog. The seminary had problems, and at the time, I did not consider the problems I faced as being particularly newsworthy.

    Your trials and tribulations are far worse than what I experienced.


    Martin, you should be ashamed of what you just wrote here.

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    « Reply #28 on: May 26, 2016, 09:18:49 PM »
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    Hi Constance, as a non-dogmatic sedevacantist and a friend of Father Hewko, I am so sorry for what happened to you and I thank God you escaped that abominable place relatively unscathed.

    I told Father that he should leave there, several times, but to no avail.

    What I really want to see is for Martin D. to corroborate your story and then to publicly condemn Boston, KY.


    Are there any REAL men left?



    Yes, there are. No one is perfect. Men are prone to defects in action or character. Real men are not perfect, but they are nevertheless men.

    I cannot disagree with anything in your letter, except for the implication that I lied or did not tell the truth in my blog. The seminary had problems, and at the time, I did not consider the problems I faced as being particularly newsworthy.

    Your trials and tribulations are far worse than what I experienced.


    Martin, you should be ashamed of what you just wrote here.


    You didn't consider the problems as "newsworthy".

    But Martin, can you honestly tell us that nothing "embarrassing to the Boston, KY operation" occurred while you were there?
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    « Reply #29 on: May 26, 2016, 09:29:59 PM »
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  • In fairness, Martin did provide a couple of very useful videos during his 30-day stay at the seminary.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson