Author Topic: What are the chances of Williamson reuniting with SSPX? (Read 10829 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #40 on:** September 22, 2015, 04:32:09 AM »

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I think this illustrates the position of the SSPX and even the so called "Resistence." This is the consequence of not answering the essential question definitively. This is the consequence of having your "pope" and eating him too.

I agree. I think so long as these men are "recognized" as popes confusion reigns.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #41 on:** September 22, 2015, 06:31:32 AM »

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I agree. I think so long as these men are "recognized" as popes confusion reigns.

Who are "these men?" I lost the thread here.

Who 'recognizes' these men as popes?

Confusion does reign, it's true. And 2vermont and mysterium help to sow it.

Mysterium Fidei · « **Reply #42 on:** September 22, 2015, 07:55:04 AM »

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I agree. I think so long as these men are "recognized" as popes confusion reigns.

Who are "these men?" I lost the thread here.

Who 'recognizes' these men as popes?

Confusion does reign, it's true. And 2vermont and mysterium help to sow it.

Who recognizes these men as popes?

Why Bp Fellay and Bp Williamson do. Did I miss something? Did they recently announce that they are now Sedevacantists?

Yes, confusion does reign in the SSPX and the so called "Resistence", when people are told: “Some Novus Ordo priests are nourishing and building the faith in the Novus Ordo parish.”

I am not confused. Vatican II and the Novus Ordo "Mass" are not Catholic and a Catholic cannot assist at a Novus Ordo "Mass" under ANY circuмstances.

That should have been Bp Williamson's answer.

rum · « **Reply #43 on:** September 23, 2015, 03:00:55 PM »

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Wise words.

2Vermont objected to my thread suggesting that Catholics should be cautious about Jєωιѕн converts who haven't been disowned by their families. I learned from GottmittunsAlex that this was also the view of St. Vincent Ferrer.

This does strike me as a possible marker to look out for. I have an ex-Mormon in-law who converted to traditional Catholicism, and his whole family disowned him, won't even see his children on holidays. And at the mostly Mormon place of employment he has, he is ostracized. Not that he seems to care, though.

(However, that may not always be the case. Many families now-a-days consider themselves religious conservatives of whatever variety, yet condone anything under banner of 'love and acceptance.')

It's not necessary to be suspicious of converts from most, or all, non-Jєωιѕн religions, because no non-Jєωιѕн religion that I'm aware of gives permission to adherents to pretend to not be adherents. Judaism permits Jews to not admit that they're Jєωιѕн, so a Jew can convert to the Church and claim to be a good Catholic while remaining in his mind a Jew.