Author Topic: Bishop W - Winona MN seminary - and Survivalism (Read 8758 times)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #30 on:** May 02, 2014, 04:20:23 AM »

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Dear nipr, your testimony should be an eye-opener for those with eyes to see.

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Wessex · « **Reply #31 on:** May 02, 2014, 06:51:33 AM »

Those hostile towards Rome need not apply. So, if the numbers are down, there are plenty of unemployed in Europe who may fancy some time in the States. Obviously, those with money will be feted (as always) and the children of original patrons will be less traditional as time goes on. The Society will have its corporate showpiece to match its new image and needs to define the right kind of candidate for its seminary of the future. It may have realised that the ideal trad candidate was becoming very rare indeed and would need to look at how the ED bodies tackled the problem. There may be room for a certain amount of worldliness, afterall!

hugeman · « **Reply #32 on:** May 02, 2014, 07:35:19 AM »

The Masonic Order long ago gave the command to destroy the Catholic Church; the order workd at the beck and call of International Zionism. Read Dr. Bells Dodd 's testimony--
how she was responsible for bringing 1,000 ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs into the seminaries. Read AA1025, the testimony of an atheistic, communist seminarist who openly dared his seminary professors and spiritual directors to violate the seal of confession and expose him ( they did not violate the seal, and continued to promote and advance him). There were 1,024 such traitors before him-- how many tens of thousands after??
Read "Good Bye, Good Men", which is a shocking disclosure on the pervasive control the sodomites have over the "Catholic" seminaries snd priesthood.
Thus armed, you will begin to understand that the continuing sɛҳuąƖ scandals ( now even well entrenched in the SSPX--see the latest arrest in France) was all well planned. And you will begin to understand that there is something darkly sinister with moving a seminary of traditionalist Catholic men from an enclave of safety into the lions den.
Of course, Winona has the ghost of Williamson all over it-- and that's the primary reason for moving St Thomas out. All the other reasons (too expensive to maintain , no room to expand, etc.) are pure poppycock. What, a seminary can't maintain a building with 150 strong men, but the sisters will be able to?
It'll be a very short time before which someone will have the bright idea to send the seminary
Students to Catholic University of America, like the pink palace does, and then our"boys" will get fully inculturated into the sodomite/ Novus Ordo Vatican II spirit.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #33 on:** May 02, 2014, 08:54:41 AM »

Quote from: nipr

Elizabeth, I'll answer you by PM regarding anything off-topic, but I do think the seminarians should see the Franciscan Monastery and go through the replication of the catacombs and underground altars. They need to realize how people had to live during times of persecution--they didn't have such a nice time of it being priest or faithful then.....................

Bless you, Nipr. (Too bad for us you don't live here anymore!)

Tiffany · « **Reply #34 on:** May 02, 2014, 09:23:53 AM »

Do seminarians have that much free time to be out and about? Every schedule I've seen looks like they are home for meals and prayers.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #35 on:** May 02, 2014, 09:26:31 AM »

I have a cousin in the LC, and it's nothing but a cult.

Wessex · « **Reply #36 on:** May 02, 2014, 11:22:48 AM »

Quote from: hugeman

Students to Catholic University of America, like the pink palace does, and then our"boys" will get fully inculturated into the sodomite/ Novus Ordo Vatican II spirit.

I suspect even 'traditionalist' seminaries of the future will be places where families park their disordered sons. Obviously, the modern church is made for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, hence their part in turning it into a gαy club. But the SSPX will not escape their attention and, with their sleepers in control, all will be over. I would look closely at this quest for 'pedigree' status for signs of this.

BlackIrish · « **Reply #37 on:** May 02, 2014, 04:33:42 PM »

Quote from: hugeman

The Masonic Order long ago gave the command to destroy the Catholic Church; the order workd at the beck and call of International Zionism. Read Dr. Bells Dodd 's testimony--
how she was responsible for bringing 1,000 ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs into the seminaries. Read AA1025, the testimony of an atheistic, communist seminarist who openly dared his seminary professors and spiritual directors to violate the seal of confession and expose him ( they did not violate the seal, and continued to promote and advance him). There were 1,024 such traitors before him-- how many tens of thousands after??
Read "Good Bye, Good Men", which is a shocking disclosure on the pervasive control the sodomites have over the "Catholic" seminaries snd priesthood.
Thus armed, you will begin to understand that the continuing sɛҳuąƖ scandals ( now even well entrenched in the SSPX--see the latest arrest in France) was all well planned. And you will begin to understand that there is something darkly sinister with moving a seminary of traditionalist Catholic men from an enclave of safety into the lions den.
Of course, Winona has the ghost of Williamson all over it-- and that's the primary reason for moving St Thomas out. All the other reasons (too expensive to maintain , no room to expand, etc.) are pure poppycock. What, a seminary can't maintain a building with 150 strong men, but the sisters will be able to?
It'll be a very short time before which someone will have the bright idea to send the seminary
Students to Catholic University of America, like the pink palace does, and then our"boys" will get fully inculturated into the sodomite/ Novus Ordo Vatican II spirit.

School of Darkness
Bella V. DODD

BlackIrish · « **Reply #38 on:** May 02, 2014, 07:08:45 PM »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/isxEwBxmS5c[/youtube]

Communist Leader, Dr. Bella Dodd, Confesses to Infiltrating the Church & USA

nipr · « **Reply #39 on:** May 03, 2014, 12:09:57 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

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Dear nipr, your testimony should be an eye-opener for those with eyes to see.

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Thanks, Neil. That's what I had in mind by going into so much detail.

And what you wrote about the seminarians -- yes. I too saw it happen and not just to seminarians. I saw good, what we now all "Traditional" priests humiliated beyond belief for not accepting the new ways. One day you had them saying Mass for you and the next day no one could tell you where they were. They had been transferred to who knows where. Everything was kept hush-hush.

One priest in particular I will never forget. He was a daily martyr of sorts in his monastery, being the only one who remained faithful to Tradition, although he was forced to say the new Mass (I just can't type the word "Mass" without capitalizing it.) He was a true inspiration to many. What humiliations he suffered!

nipr · « **Reply #40 on:** May 03, 2014, 12:18:29 AM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Quote from: nipr
Elizabeth, I'll answer you by PM regarding anything off-topic, but I do think the seminarians should see the Franciscan Monastery and go through the replication of the catacombs and underground altars. They need to realize how people had to live during times of persecution--they didn't have such a nice time of it being priest or faithful then.....................

Bless you, Nipr. (Too bad for us you don't live here anymore!)

Thank you, Elizabeth. That's very kind of you to say that. Oh, I could write a book about what my mother and I went through from Vatican II on in DC trying to hold onto our beliefs. These things you don't forget no matter where you live.

nipr · « **Reply #41 on:** May 03, 2014, 12:44:22 AM »

Thanks for the download, BlackIrish! This is one incredible book. I'm making a digital library and have well over 200 books. This is one I certainly want to have.

Speaking of reading, I advise reading "Good-bye Good Men" in small doses to keep from vomiting. I used to do transcription for students attending Catholic U, primarily Canon Law dissertations but also some work for seminarians. There's truth in that book.

I too am worried about the new seminarians attending Catholic U. When I lived there, seminarians from the various Houses attended classes there. They had a co-op thing going on there decades ago where a student could attend multiple colleges at once -- Catholic U, Georgetown U, and some other one which I can't remember. It wasn't a good thing at all. The colleges were all VERY liberal, progressive, anti-traditional. I heard first-hand accounts. What garbage you didn't get at one you found at another. I presume they still do this, but I may be wrong.

Catholic U had the most awe-inspiring chapel I have ever seen. There were statues of the Doctors of the Church everywhere you went in the chapel and they were up on pedestals as I recall. It made me feel like a student at the feet of some of the greatest saints in the Church. The statues were placed throughout the chapel so you were surrounded by them as I recall. Unfortunately, at the same time the university had abandoned St. Thomas Aquinas' teachings for Hans Kung and Charles Curran who taught there. An abomination!

We really need to pray hard for these young men no matter what branch of Traditionalism you follow. It's their souls that matter and the souls of those who will eventually be entrusted to their care.