Author Topic: New, very accurate reliable translation of Fellays Doctrinal Statement (Read 7006 times)

Mea Culpa · « **Reply #5 on:** March 22, 2013, 08:01:09 AM »

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7 We declare that we recognise the validity of the sacrifice of the Mass and of the Sacraments celebrated with the intent of doing what the Church does according the rites referred to in the typical editions of the Roman Missal and the Sacramental Ritual legitimately promulgated by popes Paul VI and Jean-Paul II.

Does this mean that he recognized the NO "Mass"?

Not only does Bp. Fellay recognize the NO mass, but states that it is also "valid".

He's accepting/promoting everything that ABL fought in order to preserve tradition.

suger · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2013, 03:46:03 PM »

Mea Culpa, you are fully right!

What do you think about this "with the intent of doing..."? Could this be a tricky manner of moving the undersigned to intend, hence in the end to celebrate the NO Mass?
I understand this is what happened with Campo traditionalists in South-America. They signed a declaration, then their bishop had to start celebrated the NO Mass (well if he signed that he intended to...) and then they all end up celebrating the NO Mass... Am I right?

I would appreciate many inputs and views on these issues.

Thank you.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2013, 03:57:42 PM »

So accurate to use the word "plight" - that's the most exact translation?

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #8 on:** March 23, 2013, 10:26:23 AM »

Good for historical reference. Here's the 1988 protocol. It looks almost identical, but it appears that +Fellay has been even more "generous."

http://www.sspx.org/fraternity_of_st_peter/protocol.pdf

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #9 on:** February 12, 2014, 06:39:59 PM »

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It's been what, 10 months, now................

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Does anyone have a ready copy of this,

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III In particular:

1 We declare accepting the doctrine re. the Roman Pontiff and the College of bishops, with its head, the Pope, as taught by the Pastor Aeternus dogmatic constitution of the First Vatican Council and by the Lumen Gentium dogmatic constitution of the Second Vatican Council, chapter 3 (De constitutione hierarchica Ecclesiæ et in specie de episcopatu), explained and interpreted by the Nota explicativa prævia to this very chapter.

...the Nota explicativa prævia mentioned here?

................... anybody? .....................

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