Is this positive or not?Well he’s exactly the same as Bishop Fellay.
Is it a usual thing to elect the superior general on the first day of the chapter? It seems a bit hasty.He’s the guy that yelled down de Jorna when he proposed going back to +ABL’s position.
At least it's not Bishop Fellay, who intentionally took the Society in a new direction, away from the direction of +ABL. The new guy is just a follower, it seems. I don't know that much about him.
Well he’s exactly the same as Bishop Fellay.
If we do not arrive at some canonical regularization, that simply means that the hierarchy is not yet sufficiently convinced of the urgent need for that contribution. In that case we will have to wait a few more years, hoping for an increase in that awareness, which could occur along with and parallel to the acceleration in the process of the Church’s self-destruction.
From an interview given when Fr. Pagliarani was the SSPX District Superior of Italy (2011):Just more double speak. No more need for Rome to convert. Continue to put the Archbishop on the shelf and pretend that 1988-91 never happened, that he kept the same position. Ignore everything else, we must sign! The injustice is the “irregularity”
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q4nA9DNWEM0/TjrER8jpLSI/AAAAAAAAEVk/4LCMNHytmw4/s1600/Don_Davide_Pagliarani.jpg)
Full interview here (http://archives.sspx.org/news/2011_archive/fr_davide_pagliarani-marco_bongi_interview_7-2011/fr_davide_pagliarani-marco_bongo_interview_part1.htm)
Well he’s exactly the same as Bishop Fellay.
Is it a usual thing to elect the superior general on the first day of the chapter? It seems a bit hasty.Bishop Williamson recently suggested that lobbying for the new Superior General might decide the matter in advance, and the speed with which this election took place will surely lend itself to such suspicions.
Except that he's not Bp. Fellay. He will likely continue on the current path of the SSPX, and take direction from Bp. Fellay.I’ve never heard of this seer, do you have more info?
But it was Bp. Fellay who wanted to implement the bizarre policies and beliefs of that crazy seer, the late Madame Rossinierre/Cornaz, into the Society, which would require reconciling with Rome. Who in his right Catholic mind would want to do such a thing?
I don't expect that much will change in the SSPX, but no one could be as bad for the Society as Bp. Fellay.
I’ve never heard of this seer, do you have more info?
So who is the resistance priest who defended Fr Pagliarani? It would be nice to know who the "moles" in the resistance are, for surely they exist. Just as we can now see that there were "moles" in +ABL's priests. Who planted them? Doesn't matter. What matters is they are there to disrupt Truth and cause confusion. Maybe not today, but sometime in the future. The modernists are very, very patient...
Now wait just a minute... just because Fr. Pagliarini was being "defended" doesn't mean the priest/person in question agrees with him on everything, or agrees with him at all!Yes, my bad. I took Centro's comments at face value when I had no reason to do so.
According to this thread, Fr. Chazal also defended Fr. Pagliarani against the accusation spoke of by Fr. Hewko. So there is more than one Resistance priest that would defend Fr. Pagliarani in that situation.
Rumor mongering. Bah.If you make an accusation without proof, or pass on heresay without proof, which you originally did, that's the definition of a rumor.
What did Father's Pfeiffer and Hewko say or do which lead to the charges of lying and falsification?
I believe that Father Davide Pagliarani, along with his assistants Bishop de Galarreta and Father Christian Bouchacourt, will usher in a new direction for the SSPX. Bishop Fellay made me very nervous in his wanting the SSPX to get in bed with Rome, so to speak. I do not believe that will be the case with these three newly elected individuals. Time will tell. I will continue to pray. If the SSPX does make a move to "the right" on things, which would be good and I believe will happen in time, then what justification does the resistance have in continuing? If the SSPX does get back on track, what will the resistance priests and the followers do? It would be nice if they could unite and fight the common goal. I will be watching and listening very intently to see what starts to develop!
My God lead us all in the direction he wants us to go!
I believe that Father Davide Pagliarani, along with his assistants Bishop de Galarreta and Father Christian Bouchacourt, will usher in a new direction for the SSPX. Bishop Fellay made me very nervous in his wanting the SSPX to get in bed with Rome, so to speak. I do not believe that will be the case with these three newly elected individuals. Time will tell. I will continue to pray. If the SSPX does make a move to "the right" on things, which would be good and I believe will happen in time, then what justification does the resistance have in continuing? If the SSPX does get back on track, what will the resistance priests and the followers do? It would be nice if they could unite and fight the common goal. I will be watching and listening very intently to see what starts to develop!
My God lead us all in the direction he wants us to go!
The Feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary is August 22nd..
One more reason to pray and sacrifice, and to participate in the July 13th day of fast on Bread and Water.
God bless,
Fr. Girouard
Just so everyone sees it, here is a summary from Fr. Girouard, posted in another thread:.
Received today from Fr. Girouard: More reasons to join in the Bread and Water Fast:
Well, not only has the Chapter chosen a liberal as General Superior (Fr. Pagliarani, who is the one who saved Bishop Fellay from criticism at the 2012 Chapter), but they also chose two arch-liberals as his Assistants: 1-Bishop Galarreta, who in his October 2012 conference at Villepreux defended the 2012 Chapter, and went so far as to say that a 50% + 1 votes would be enough in a future Chapter to endorse an agreement with Rome; 2-Fr. Bouchacourt who, as District Superior of Argentina had Cardinal Bergoglio "recognize" the society in that country, and who, as District Superior of France has continually battled and hammered the Resistance.
Bishop Fellay has prepared the way since 1997, and this new set of Superiors seems to have been chosen to implement a soon-to-be announced "recognition" by Rome.
The Chapter ends up one day before the Feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and maybe a recognition would be declared, on that day, to be an answer to the Last Rosary Crusade.
One more reason to pray and sacrifice, and to participate in the July 13th day of fast on Bread and Water.
God bless,
Fr. Girouard
What are you, mad? (I'm joking about your name, of course).
Sure we're all praying as well -- from the pews of our Resistance-affiliated chapels.
Have you read this thread at all? All the evidence, and every indication, is that Fr. Pagliarani is going to pursue the same path as Bp Fellay. You have no reason whatsoever to believe that they will turn anything around. Of course God can do anything, but do you have similar hope for Barack Obama to suddenly become a good Traditional Catholic? Remember, God can do anything.
Humanly speaking, barring a miracle (which is always possible, that goes without saying) I have NO hope for Barack Obama becoming a Trad Catholic, or Fr. Pagliarani turning the SSPX back to +Lefebvre's original position.
Might I remind you, and the others on CathInfo, that +Fellay got to personally select about 30 of the 40 capitulants who elected the new Superior General. Only 1/3 of the members are chosen by seniority (outside the choice of Bp Fellay). The rest are taken from District Superiors, heads of the various Seminaries, etc. which are all posts filled by men of Bp Fellay's choosing!
The idea that we could get an "upset" and get a conservative elected is about as likely as the next conclave (full of Modernists) electing Bishop Williamson the next Pope. (From my mouth to God's ears, I know! hahaha)
Most of your post is garbage, written to justify your core assertion, which is found in the middle: "what justification does the resistance have in continuing". That is the sentence you can't wait to utter -- which is why you're uttering it with no good reason, way prematurely, etc. I can tell you're no supporter of the Resistance. Where have you been on CathInfo these past 6 years? You seem to know about CathInfo just fine.
I have an intuition or a God-given gift for sizing people up, figuring out their true motives, etc. Human psychology is a hobby of mine.
.Nope, that was
If Fr. Girouard says so it must be true. He's been following these priests for decades. Probably knows them personally.
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Wasn't the "Flying Squirrel" a newsletter put out under the watch of Fr. Bouchacourt stationed in India?
I believe that Father Davide Pagliarani, along with his assistants Bishop de Galarreta and Father Christian Bouchacourt, will usher in a new direction for the SSPX. Bishop Fellay made me very nervous in his wanting the SSPX to get in bed with Rome, so to speak. I do not believe that will be the case with these three newly elected individuals. Time will tell. I will continue to pray. If the SSPX does make a move to "the right" on things, which would be good and I believe will happen in time, then what justification does the resistance have in continuing? If the SSPX does get back on track, what will the resistance priests and the followers do? It would be nice if they could unite and fight the common goal. I will be watching and listening very intently to see what starts to develop!
My God lead us all in the direction he wants us to go!
Thanks AJNC..
I had pointed this out to a friend. Fr. Abrahamowicz is a great priest from Italy who publicly burned the books of Vatican 2 in a ceremony here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhcW_fV6JEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhcW_fV6JEg
He was part of the Italian district and was under Fr. Pagliarani and had no problems with him. He was able to act freely in the SSPX and even openly leaning sedevacantist under Fr. Pagliarani, from what I understand. From what I understand, Fr. Abrahamowicz also supports Bishop Williamson.
As for Fr. Pagliarani, much could be said about his recent trip to Brazil a month or so ago but last time I brought up Fr. Pagliarani's defense by resistance priests I was accused of spreading rumors.
Fr. Abrahamowicz has an interesting Wikipedia page. Again, he has had a good relationship with Fr. Pagliarani from what I know. Argentina and Brazil is all I can say.He certainly does!