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Offline Matthew

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Re: New St Marys Immaculata altar is table - youtube video
« Reply #85 on: November 08, 2022, 01:23:57 PM »
Yeah. I'm starting to understand the Dimonds. At some point the priests just get too heretical to go to Mass. I think they put the line too early but I'm afraid in the near future when the native seminarians are ordained we'll get such modernism that I'll have to stay home.

There is no possible circuмstance in the future that will make me excuse or justify the EVIL of the Dimond brothers. They are NOT just accidental home aloners ("I don't have a Traditional Chapel within driving distance to attend for Sunday Mass."). Is that what you think?

No, they are DOGMATIC. They have cut themselves off from the rest of the Catholic Church, they are therefore Schismatic. They have set themselves up as the Pope and the "last 10 Catholics on earth". I am tempted to say "They can go to hell!" but that's precisely where they're headed already!

You seem to be rather confused and uninformed about what exactly I (and many others) have against the Dimond Brothers.

They excommunicate all and sundry who disagree with them. How is that Catholic? How is that excusable, under ANY circuмstances? Even the Crisis in the Church is no excuse for their evils.

Re: New St Marys Immaculata altar is table - youtube video
« Reply #86 on: November 08, 2022, 04:07:18 PM »
There is no possible circuмstance in the future that will make me excuse or justify the EVIL of the Dimond brothers. They are NOT just accidental home aloners ("I don't have a Traditional Chapel within driving distance to attend for Sunday Mass."). Is that what you think?

No, they are DOGMATIC. They have cut themselves off from the rest of the Catholic Church, they are therefore Schismatic. They have set themselves up as the Pope and the "last 10 Catholics on earth". I am tempted to say "They can go to hell!" but that's precisely where they're headed already!

You seem to be rather confused and uninformed about what exactly I (and many others) have against the Dimond Brothers.

They excommunicate all and sundry who disagree with them. How is that Catholic? How is that excusable, under ANY circuмstances? Even the Crisis in the Church is no excuse for their evils.
I'm pretty sure they're not dogmatic home aloners. They say they attend Mass at some eastern Catholic priest. What they have a problem is attending a heretical homily.

I certainly disagree with their liberal branding of everyone as heretics and of bad will but I wouldn't dare call them evil, even though they exhibit some disturbing character flaws and bad manners.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: New St Marys Immaculata altar is table - youtube video
« Reply #87 on: November 08, 2022, 05:21:12 PM »
Then you have some European trads who feel superior to the American trads. I'm glad that America was always more conservative in liturgical matters than Europe

I think that's mostly the French ... and the Parisians in particular.  I haven't found such condescending attitudes from those who hail from other parts of Europe or even from the French countryside.  Yes, indeed, their countries have a history of having been Catholic states, where the US never was ... but all the more to their shame that they rebelled against the Church and cast it out.  But the Parisian condescension is not limited to matters of faith; they consider themselves culturally superior to the Anglox-Saxon and American barbarians.

Re: New St Marys Immaculata altar is table - youtube video
« Reply #88 on: November 08, 2022, 09:57:51 PM »
I am not from Europe but I have the same feelings about some American priests trying to impose American customs elsewhere. I guess one is inclined to view one's own culture to be superior than others.

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« Reply #89 on: November 08, 2022, 10:12:27 PM »
Whenever I argue I make sure that 90% of what I say are quotes from saints and Popes so that when the inevitable reply comes: "Why would I believe YOU over my priest / 2000 bishops / theologians?" I can be confident that I wasn't asserting anything on my own authority but repeating what the Church has taught.

If you haven't noticed, these are confusing times. Pick ten traditionalists and you'll get eleven opinions, you'll have to make your own judgments based upon ACTUAL authorities: Popes, councils, church fathers and doctors.

Ladislaus certainly disagrees with the majority of theologians but that doesn't matter since he is in agreement with the Popes, councils and church fathers.

You can argue all you like but when the pharisaical aspersions and heretic-labelling are added, that makes you no different from the Dimonds.