Author Topic: New Rite of Mass "Legitimately" Promulgated (Read 6483 times)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #10 on:** May 08, 2013, 10:34:02 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous

According to the Catholic stigmatist amd mystic, Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850 ~ 1941) Msgr. Fellay's overtures to newRome are a made a big mistake.

Correction, please:

"...Msgr. Fellay's overtures... are a made a big mistake" is nonsense.

Incredulous · « **Reply #11 on:** May 08, 2013, 06:44:59 PM »

Quote from: Ecclesia Militans

Incredulous,

Will you please point to the exact reference?

EM,

Holy Jahenny's writings are 80 years prior to Vatican II, but she describes the outcome accurately.

After reading this, I'm becoming very leery of the Motu chapels as Msgr. Fellay has always warned us.

Here's just an extract:

Marie-Julie Jahenny (June 1881).

"In their [priests] aberration, they will break their oaths. The Book of Life contains a list of names that ‘rends the heart.’

"Because of the little respect it has for the apostles of God, the flock grows careless and ceases to observe the laws. The priest himself is responsible for the lack of respect because he does not respect enough his holy ministry, and the place which he occupies in his sacred functions. The flock follows in the footsteps of its pastors; this is a great tragedy.

"The clergy will be severely punished on account of their inconceivable fickleness and great cowardice which is incompatible with their functions.

"A terrible chastisement has been provided for those who ascend every morning the steps of the Holy Sacrifice. I have not come on your altars to be tortured. I suffer a hundredfold more from such hearts than any of the others. I absolve you from your great sins, My children, but I cannot grant any pardon to these priests."

She [Marie-Julie Jahenny] says that "those who govern the Flock", will be responsible for the coming crisis. Apparently, Communism would not have triumphed if the Church had remained faithful. She mentions the growing freedom enjoyed by priests and bishops and how badly they will use it.

She mentions a pope who, at the last moment, will reverse his policies and make a solemn appeal to the Clergy.

But he will not be obeyed; on the contrary, an Assembly of bishops will demand even greater freedom, declaring that they will no longer obey the Pope.

Marie-Julie then goes on to say that the Red Revolution will then break out. She speaks of a "horrible religion" which is to replace the Catholic Faith, and she sees "many, many bishops" embracing this "sacrilegious, infamous religion."

Marie-Julies's prophecies concerning the new liturgy: On November 27, 1902 (Ed. note: The seventy-second anniversary of the Miraculous Medal Apparition [November 27, 1830]) and on May 10, 1904, Our Lord warned of the new liturgy which would one day be instituted: "I give you a warning. The disciples who are not of My Gospel are now working hard to remake according to their ideas, and under the influence of the enemy of souls, a Mass that contains words which are odious in My Sight. When the fatal hour arrives where the faith of my priest is put to the test, it will be these texts that will be celebrated, in this second period."

"The first period is the one of My Priesthood, existing since Me. The second is the one of the persecution, when the enemies of the Faith and of Holy Religion will impose their formulas in the book of the second celebration. Many of My holy priests will refuse this book, sealed with the words of the abyss. Unfortunately, amongst them are those who will accept it."

On May 10, 1904, Our Lady describes the new clergy and its liturgy: "They will not stop on this hateful and sacrilegious road. They will go further to compromise all at once, and in one blow, the Holy Church, the clergy, and the Faith of my children."

She announces the "dispersion of the pastors" by the Church herself; true pastors, who will be replaced by others formed by Hell: "...new preachers of new sacraments, new temples, new baptisms, new confraternities."

July 7 1880 Jesus tell Mary - Julie: «the church will be deprived of his supreme chief that now the guidance (...) The Chief of the Church will be offended outrageously».
«In the ecstasy of November 4, 1880 Mary - Julie describes us the martyrdom of the pope: «The voice of the Church, under a veiled sigh, comes to make doors broken of my soul the echo of his dying voice sound. The supreme Pontiff launches an agonizing speech toward his people, toward children of which he is the Father. It is a sword for my soul... I see of white birds to carry away in their beak his blood and of shreds of his flesh. I see the hand of Peter breakthrough by the nail as the one of GOD. I see his clothes of ceremony pulled in shreds, clothes of which he dresses his dignity to make take down GOD on the altar. I see all it in my sun. Oh ! that I suffer ! »

Incredulous · « **Reply #12 on:** May 08, 2013, 06:56:43 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Incredulous

According to the Catholic stigmatist amd mystic, Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850 ~ 1941) Msgr. Fellay's overtures to newRome are a made a big mistake.

Correction, please:

"...Msgr. Fellay's overtures... are a made a big mistake" is nonsense.

Oh no... what did I say wrong now?
I'm just a misunderstood fat baby.

My meaning was that after you read Marie-Julie Jahenny tracts on the new liturgy, a religious leader of the One True Faith, would not dare dialogue with the Consiliar church.

Therefore, Msgr. Fellay's premise, that he was obligated to dialogue with newRome is a big mistake.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #13 on:** May 09, 2013, 02:09:40 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous (sorta)

According to the Catholic stigmatist amd mystic, Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850 ~ 1941) Msgr. Fellay's overtures to newRome are ~~a made~~ a big mistake.

...after [he reads] Marie-Julie Jahenny tracts on the new liturgy, a religious leader of the One True Faith would not dare dialogue with the Consiliar church.

Therefore, Msgr. Fellay's premise, that he was obligated to dialogue with newRome is a big mistake.

Could it be ---------- maybe +Fellay is......

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Many of My holy priests will refuse this book, sealed with the words of the abyss.
Unfortunately, amongst them are those who will accept it.

For if he is amongst the priests who will accept the book sealed with the words of
the abyss, then he's making the biggest mistake anyone could ever make.

Ecclesia Militans · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2013, 07:01:41 AM »

Bishop Fellay Endorsed “Fraud, Schism, and Heresy” according to Fr. Paul Kramer:

http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2013/06/14/bishop-fellay-endorsed-fraud-schism-and-heresy-according-to-fr-paul-kramer/