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Offline hollingsworth

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Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2017, 12:58:47 PM »
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    Yes, its a pity Fr Morgon was gutless he may have inspired others if he had spoken sooner and the sspx may not have become the nonentity it is now. Sad.

    I'm not sure "gutless" is the word.  Confused, maybe;  torn and conflicted within, probably more accurate; not able to see a clear way forward outside the only model he'd ever followed, almost undoubtedly; dreading the prospect of being torn from a safe and semi-secure organizational mooring, understandable.  He's no worse than any of us, and hopefully a lot better than most.  So, Lord, help Fr. M to land on his feet.


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
    « Reply #16 on: December 23, 2017, 01:09:29 PM »
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  • Gutless may not be right, maybe substitute spineless, 


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
    « Reply #17 on: December 23, 2017, 03:53:57 PM »
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  • Unbelievable!

    So a priest after 35 years of being in the SSPX, decides to leave the SSPX (I am sure it was not an easy decision) but is still castigated because he did not do it the way some of you have wanted. What did you want him to do? Come out with guns blazing firing shots at everyone?

    I don't believe the laity should simply "pray, pay, and obey" but I also don't think the laity should be so quick priests.

    What I really see is a failure to understand human nature. We sit here behind our screens typing away on a forum telling the world what these priests should be doing. I am sure Fr. Morgan is just a gutless man who has no principles and doesn't really understand the Faith. Yes that must be it. Yes, that will be a way to get these priests to have confidence in the faithful. Keep at it...

    Encourage these priests and pray for them. What has Fr. Morgan done to deserve such criticism? He JUST left the SSPX a few months ago. Cut him some slack. My goodness.

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    Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
    « Reply #18 on: December 23, 2017, 04:05:27 PM »
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  • Sorry the sentence should read: 

    but I also don't think the laity should be so quick to criticize priests. 

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    Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
    « Reply #19 on: December 23, 2017, 05:41:50 PM »
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    Encourage these priests and pray for them. What has Fr. Morgan done to deserve such criticism? He JUST left the SSPX a few months ago. Cut him some slack. My goodness.

    Yes, I agree.  I was just surprised that after all he's been through in the sspx,  the marriage issue should have been the thing that finally pushed him out.  But you're right.


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
    « Reply #20 on: December 24, 2017, 02:14:41 AM »
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  • Of course we should pray for him, but we are where we are, because of inaction, procrastination, and weak will, Fr Morgon knew what was going on and did nothing, now there is nothing to save, sspx is crumbs.

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    Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
    « Reply #21 on: December 24, 2017, 08:23:27 AM »
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  • Unbelievable!

    So a priest after 35 years of being in the SSPX, decides to leave the SSPX (I am sure it was not an easy decision) but is still castigated because he did not do it the way some of you have wanted. What did you want him to do? Come out with guns blazing firing shots at everyone?

    I don't believe the laity should simply "pray, pay, and obey" but I also don't think the laity should be so quick priests.

    What I really see is a failure to understand human nature. We sit here behind our screens typing away on a forum telling the world what these priests should be doing. I am sure Fr. Morgan is just a gutless man who has no principles and doesn't really understand the Faith. Yes that must be it. Yes, that will be a way to get these priests to have confidence in the faithful. Keep at it...

    Encourage these priests and pray for them. What has Fr. Morgan done to deserve such criticism? He JUST left the SSPX a few months ago. Cut him some slack. My goodness.
    We should be happy that he has left.
    My criticism has been on what he has said. If he doesnt want  critcism for that, then he should have stayed silent.
    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

    "As for whether or not I work for NASA, I'm sorry, but I fail to understand what that could possibly have to do with anything" Neil Obstat, 08-03-2017

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    Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
    « Reply #22 on: December 24, 2017, 12:02:55 PM »
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  • Unbelievable!

    So a priest after 35 years of being in the SSPX, decides to leave the SSPX (I am sure it was not an easy decision) but is still castigated because he did not do it the way some of you have wanted. What did you want him to do? Come out with guns blazing firing shots at everyone?

    I don't believe the laity should simply "pray, pay, and obey" but I also don't think the laity should be so quick priests.

    What I really see is a failure to understand human nature. We sit here behind our screens typing away on a forum telling the world what these priests should be doing. I am sure Fr. Morgan is just a gutless man who has no principles and doesn't really understand the Faith. Yes that must be it. Yes, that will be a way to get these priests to have confidence in the faithful. Keep at it...

    Encourage these priests and pray for them. What has Fr. Morgan done to deserve such criticism? He JUST left the SSPX a few months ago. Cut him some slack. My goodness.

    It would seem that Fr. Morgan has gone from the frying pan into the fire. He'll have to develop very thick skin to deal with the Resistance laity, who are rather unforgiving. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Interview with Fr. Paul Morgan
    « Reply #23 on: December 24, 2017, 12:17:31 PM »
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  • Father talks about the UK district breaking away had there been an agreement with Rome in 2012. How this would have worked in practice, one can ponder as Menzingen has learnt from its many internal disputes how to grab assets and threaten its members. There must have been a terribly uneasy period during the last few years of his role as superior and having to officially turn against many hardline activists. These things are not forgotten, hence the suspicions he is arousing.

    I suspect there may not be a lot in common between late defectors from the Society and early defectors except the usual rejection of conciliarism. How modern Rome is viewed can give rise to striking differences and polarised positions as well as knowing the right away for independents to carry out their mission as priests. The loose association was aptly termed because anything better was unworkable. Father is entering the disorganised wing of the remnant. In France he will encounter a Heinz variety of traditional initiatives and no doubt meet up with some familiar faces from the past.