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New priest in Boston, KY
« on: July 25, 2018, 01:29:06 PM »
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  • Fr. Joseph Poisson

    Newly arrived from the FSSP parish St. Michael's in Scranton, PA.


    Scranton is where the FSSP had their boys highschool shut down over abuse after the SSPX priests joined them to form the SSJ (Society of St. John).

    Fr. Urritogoity fled to South America, and three former SSJ priests have joined Boston, KY in the past year (Roberts, Cordaro, Tetherow).

    The Bishop of Scranton announced on June 24th that a grand jury investigation report is due to be imminently released.


    Saintmichaelsrcc.org/press/


    Moderator Note:
    Fr. Poisson was not part of the Society of St. John, although the OP here insinuated exactly that. I have modified it to remove unjustified speculation and making connections that weren't there.

    Scranton, PA is a decent-sized city of 76,000+ people. It's not a small village.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scranton,_Pennsylvania

    No one is to be suspected of any wrongdoing merely by virtue of having an apostolate in Pennsylvania, or even Scranton, PA.
    HOWEVER, Fr. Poisson joining the sinking ship that is Fr. Pfeiffer's cult here in 2018, after all the scandals have come to light (the con artist Ambrose Moran, Tetherow, Fr. Marshall Roberts, plus the usual Pablo, etc.) demands that we scrutinize Fr. Poisson with the full package of due diligence. No sane man with other options would choose such a group!

    Fr. Poisson has admitted that Ambrose Moran conditionally "ordained" him. 
    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/everything-about-mr-bishop-archbishop-ambrose-moran-the-orthodox/

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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #2 on: July 25, 2018, 01:52:14 PM »
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  • Bulletin announcement from June 24, Fr. Poisson shows up in Boston days later:

    saintmichaelsrcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/New-Parish-Bulletin-24-June-2018.pdf

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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #3 on: July 25, 2018, 02:20:21 PM »
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  • Have at ‘em, Pfeiffer! They’re all yours. 

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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #4 on: July 25, 2018, 05:20:04 PM »
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    three former SSJ priests have joined Boston, KY in the past year (Roberts, Cordaro, Tetherow).

    Does it appear the Pfeiffer farm is becoming a "safe house" for recovering gay priests ?  :facepalm:



    May the souls of the traditional Catholic fathers of the Pfeiffer property:

    Father Urban Snyder, Father Francis Michael Hannifin intercede with Our Lady to shut it down.



    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #5 on: July 25, 2018, 06:26:23 PM »
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  • Here is the bulletin, in case someone decides to toss it down the memory hole.

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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #6 on: July 25, 2018, 10:14:13 PM »
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  • Every Diocese in the State of Pennsylvania is included in this sexual abuse report- not just Scranton.
    AG ((Shapiro)) is aggressively prosecuting the Conciliar (sp)Church- not that it isn't deserved but it has become very contentious between the AG's office and the Conciliar PA Bishops.  Fr Poisson left St Michael's in Scranton in 2014 and he wasn't around for the Society of St John debacle back in the late 90's/ early 2000's. In fact Fr Poisson was often persecuted by the local ordinaries and laity for his "severity" (throw out your televisions) and his devotion to Our Lady- one of the only priests within a diocesan structure that preached the truth about the Consecration of Russia. Fr Poisson's reward for telling the truth was being sent to outbacks in the Yukon and Africa for years by the FSSP - (kind of what happened to Fr Scott with the SSPX) He never complained.
    He is an "odd duck" in an otherworldly sense. He's certainly not mainstream Catholicism's cup of tea.
    But to accuse him of such heinous things without even knowing him is just painful to hear. 
    So sorry that he fell into the Boston situation. I will step up my prayers. 
     

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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 08:19:10 AM »
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  • I don't think it's likely that  the FSSP would eject a priest for having an affection for preaching about the consecration of Russia.

    Scranton diocese has shown they are serious with the ejection of Cordaro and Tetherow and the SSJ.

    Either way, the grand jury report will be out soon and it will name names.

    The bigger question is why are these guys ending up in Boston,  KY?


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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #8 on: July 26, 2018, 08:33:07 AM »
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  • I don't think it's likely that  the FSSP would eject a priest for having an affection for preaching about the consecration of Russia.

    Scranton diocese has shown they are serious with the ejection of Cordaro and Tetherow and the SSJ.

    Either way, the grand jury report will be out soon and it will name names.

    The bigger question is why are these guys ending up in Boston,  KY?


    You hit the nail on the head General.

    It took us some time to figure out this gay-network, but there's a significant trend going-on in Pfeifferville.

    The typical gay schtick to rationalize their sins which cry to Heaven for justice, is to claim "we are the persecuted".
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #9 on: July 26, 2018, 08:51:16 AM »
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  • He was NOT ejected. He just left. i spoke with the pastor at St Michael's at the time.

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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #10 on: July 26, 2018, 09:11:40 AM »
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  • The bigger question is why are these guys ending up in Boston,  KY?

    This is the biggest alarm bell.  If you leave FSSP, why would you not latch on to some more stable group like SSPX or the broader Resistance?  Would someone of the FSSP mindset and theological position suddenly have an issue with the neo-SSPX and go straight to some Resistance group?  Sedevacantist I can see ... if one came around to that conclusion.  But why would one take the path direct from FFSP to Boston and not consider SSPX first?  Something smells in Boston, and it's not just Pablo.


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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #11 on: July 26, 2018, 09:48:53 AM »
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  • This is the biggest alarm bell.  If you leave FSSP, why would you not latch on to some more stable group like SSPX or the broader Resistance?  Would someone of the FSSP mindset and theological position suddenly have an issue with the neo-SSPX and go straight to some Resistance group?  Sedevacantist I can see ... if one came around to that conclusion.  But why would one take the path direct from FFSP to Boston and not consider SSPX first?  Something smells in Boston, and it's not just Pablo.

    You're absolutely correct.

    When analyzing Trad groups, there are two factors:

    Size/organization
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    Position

    FSSP and Boston, KY are light-years apart in both categories!

    FSSP is all "recognize" and no "resist". FSSP is arguably not Traditional Catholic, since they don't believe in the Traditional Catholic tenet that we have supplied jurisdiction, a right to keep our Faith despite lack of Roman permission, and they seem to deny there is a Crisis in the Church, since they are working with Modernist Rome and are on perfect terms with same. They are very conservative, yes, but they go against many tenets and beliefs that the Traditional movement has always consistently stood for, from 1970 until the present day.

    Fr. Pfeiffer's fringe group is all "resist" but no "recognize". They excommunicate anyone (including clergy) not part of their group, considering them non-Catholics and vitandi. They don't even recognize their brothers in Tradition, much less anyone in the Conciliar Church. This group has more of an apocalyptic, home aloner type position, a position usually seen in extreme sedevacantist groups. Anything and everything whispered about one of the recent Popes will be boldly shouted from the housetops by Fr. Pfeiffer.

    FSSP is often considered (rightly so, in my opinion) to be classic "smells and bells". Their chant and High Mass rubrics are impeccable, and so forth. But has anyone here worked with Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer? Building up chapels materially, organizing scholae, acquiring High Mass equipment for various chapels, etc couldn't be a lower priority for him. He is like an Irish priest: low Mass (and bare essentials) all the way. My point: they are as different as toasters and cirrus clouds.

    As for organization, you couldn't get more polar opposites.

    The FSSP is as organized as the SSPX. Those two are extremely similar as far as professionalism, organization, size, standardization of priestly formation, knowing what to expect when you drop in at any of their chapels, etc.

    Fr. Pfeiffer's group is allergic to anything resembling planning or organization. They couldn't be more random, haphazard, or disorganized. But more than mere lack of good administration or planning (which might be excused), there are grave disorders within this organization on many levels!

    Now depending on why a priest fell out with the FSSP, he might go different directions. Will he join a group with a more conservative position, but still organized? Or a group more conservative/liberal, but still in union with Rome? These would make sense. There had to be something he liked and still likes about the FSSP. A person doesn't change that much, or that quickly. And certain Trad groups are as dissimilar as cheddar cheese and hope.

    In this particular case, there is nothing in common between the FSSP and Boston, KY except for the superficial name of "Catholic". And let's face it: only desperation could bring a person to go with such a small, disorganized, failing, extreme of position, and scandal-ridden group.

    So the 10 million dollar question: Why is this priest so desperate for a "gig"?

    I'm not going to say things about this priest that I don't know, but everything I wrote in this post is 100% certain. There is SOME reason which explains this priest's irrational behavior, if it's true that he's working with Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer. Knowledge that he's working with Fr. Pfeiffer is all I need to begin "wondering" about this priest.
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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #12 on: July 26, 2018, 10:06:19 AM »
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  • I really can't get over an FSSP priest going straight to Fr. Pfeiffer's group. I can't emphasize enough how crazy that is.

    When a Resistance priest ends up working with Fr. Pfeiffer, at least it makes sense on some level. If a priest left the SSPX, he needs a new framework or network to work with, and some (foolishly) go with Fr. Pfeiffer for this or that personal reason. So it's just a couple of Independent priests working together; it's not completely crazy.

    But FSSP --> Pfeiffer cult?  Really? 

    Something like that doesn't just happen. Something isn't right.

    I can't turn off my Common Sense here.
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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #13 on: July 26, 2018, 10:11:34 AM »
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  • He was NOT ejected. He just left. i spoke with the pastor at St Michael's at the time.
    Oh, really?
    Why?
    Why would any FSSP priest " just leave"?

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    Re: New priest in Boston, KY
    « Reply #14 on: July 26, 2018, 10:27:55 AM »
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  • I really can't get over an FSSP priest going straight to Fr. Pfeiffer's group. I can't emphasize enough how crazy that is.

    When a Resistance priest ends up working with Fr. Pfeiffer, at least it makes sense on some level. If a priest left the SSPX, he needs a new framework or network to work with, and some (foolishly) go with Fr. Pfeiffer for this or that personal reason. So it's just a couple of Independent priests working together; it's not completely crazy.

    But FSSP --> Pfeiffer cult?  Really?

    Something like that doesn't just happen. Something isn't right.

    I can't turn off my Common Sense here.

    There's a consistent thread of homo-accused men showing-up at Pfiefferville.

    From relatives living on the property, to a string of four or more priests.

    We don't readily understand it, because it's the "gay-network".

    Suffice to say, they "know" each other.

    Pfiefferville priests travel all over the country and are networked.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

     

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