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Offline DZ PLEASE

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Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2017, 08:33:23 PM »
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  • Keep feeding your head oh "mass at any price resisters and essentially identical conciliars! "MaY be goin' to Hell in chalice…"
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #16 on: August 15, 2017, 08:58:26 PM »
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  • The interior of Christ the Light Cathedral doesn't look like the exterior, so I thought there must be some mistake in the images. But looking into it further, I found the explanation:  The exterior/interior walls are made up of four walls, an aluminum curtain wall, a steel framework supporting a glue-lam rib wall, which holds up the array of wood beams that look like louver slats all around the interior:



    When you multiply the walls by four, that makes the high cost more understandable.
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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #17 on: August 16, 2017, 02:08:22 AM »
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  • The interior of Christ the Light Cathedral doesn't look like the exterior, so I thought there must be some mistake in the images. But looking into it further, I found the explanation:  The exterior/interior walls are made up of four walls, an aluminum curtain wall, a steel framework supporting a glue-lam rib wall, which holds up the array of wood beams that look like louver slats all around the interior:



    When you multiply the walls by four, that makes the high cost more understandable.
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    This is not a simple concept. Why have four walls instead of one wall? Most buildings have just one wall for keeping the wind and rain out. The expense and maintenance concerns of four walls instead of one must have been a hot topic of debate.
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    The reason (it seems to me) that they chose four walls was that they wanted this effect with light on the inside of the building, and to get it, they had to have this array of slanted beams looking like louvers, which you see inside the cathedral, all around on the walls. But to have that, you need a ribwork of glue-laminated columns to hold them up. But to have that, you need a grid of iron bars with kickers to stabilize the columns. But that's going to look terrible on the outside, so cover it all up with a low-budget curtain wall, like they do on all the high-rise skyscrapers these days, and while you're at it, make the iron gridwork a little stronger to support and brace the flimsy curtain wall, and everyone's happy.
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    Okay, 9 years later and nobody's happy. Oh, well. At least they got some awards for a while.
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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #18 on: August 16, 2017, 02:32:38 AM »
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    Okay, 9 years later and nobody's happy. Oh, well. At least they got some awards for a while.
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    9 years later, nobody's happy --- but for the brides and grooms who got some wedding pictures:

          



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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #19 on: August 16, 2017, 03:40:39 AM »
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  • Instead of building an Atheist -like Ugly Cathedral, they could have used the money to repair the old Cathedral and had money left over to feed the poor. 
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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #20 on: August 16, 2017, 05:52:58 PM »
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  • These kind of structures commissioned by the new order are to be expected. When it comes to their permanence, it is often stated by the perpetrators that they are not meant to last and should be superseded by expressions of updated versions of mankind's evolving religious side. Rapid structural deterioration would be seen as assisting in making healthy spiritual progress requiring more and more creativity. The old building models have been discarded along with what they represented. And it is only an elite that will truly understand what is going on; to criticise will indicate that you are not of the elite.

    Could there be greater proof that this is the work of another church? We do not need to fool ourselves into thinking otherwise, swimming in a sea of doubt over doctored doctrine and being afraid to call a spade a spade. Newchurch is a new concept and manifests itself in many ways and is beyond conversion. It is to be reviled and condemned.

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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #21 on: August 17, 2017, 02:35:03 AM »
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  • Instead of building an Atheist -like Ugly Cathedral, they could have used the money to repair the old Cathedral and had money left over to feed the poor.
    It is literally Modernist (Philosophically > architectually) spawned, with all the brain-rape and soul suck that comes with it.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #22 on: August 17, 2017, 06:54:13 AM »
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  • I happened on a gallery in London recently displaying contemporary works. Needless to say most of the stuff was junk but I was interested in the expressions on the faces of the endless procession of viewing public. These seemed to be lacking in much feeling and belonged to those duty-bound to come along and admire what has been officially ordained high art. I am finding for a certain percentage of the population the natural ability to discriminate is absent, this being handed over to a familiar ruling class that only knows what people should like.


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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #23 on: August 17, 2017, 07:40:27 AM »
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  • Instead of building an Atheist -like Ugly Cathedral, they could have used the money to repair the old Cathedral and had money left over to feed the poor.
    Indeed! and they might have if the conciliar entity was Catholic, but alas, it is not.  Christ's mission was never its end. It seeks only the raising of man to God's throne.

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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #24 on: August 17, 2017, 07:42:25 AM »
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  • These kind of structures commissioned by the new order are to be expected. When it comes to their permanence, it is often stated by the perpetrators that they are not meant to last and should be superseded by expressions of updated versions of mankind's evolving religious side. Rapid structural deterioration would be seen as assisting in making healthy spiritual progress requiring more and more creativity. The old building models have been discarded along with what they represented. And it is only an elite that will truly understand what is going on; to criticise will indicate that you are not of the elite.

    Could there be greater proof that this is the work of another church? We do not need to fool ourselves into thinking otherwise, swimming in a sea of doubt over doctored doctrine and being afraid to call a spade a spade. Newchurch is a new concept and manifests itself in many ways and is beyond conversion. It is to be reviled and condemned.
    There needs be no other proofs to those with eyes to see and ears to hear. It is a poisoned tree.

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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #25 on: August 17, 2017, 07:53:46 AM »
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  • Indeed! and they might have if the conciliar entity was Catholic, but alas, it is not.  Christ's mission was never its end. It seeks only the raising of man to God's throne.
    That is also what they did in Los Angeles, claiming that the former St. Vibiana's Cathedral was 'damaged' and they sold it off. It's now an event center.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...


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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #26 on: August 17, 2017, 08:45:42 AM »
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  • It looks like the Tower of Babel.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: New Oakland Cathedral is slowly sinking
    « Reply #27 on: August 17, 2017, 09:45:13 AM »
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  • That is also what they did in Los Angeles, claiming that the former St. Vibiana's Cathedral was 'damaged' and they sold it off. It's now an event center.
    "… damaged…", i.e.  Catholic. (s.a. the fαɢɢօt fusion now called "marrige", tepidity and cowardice as "charity" etc., etcetera ad nauseam …)
    "Lord, have mercy".