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Offline Miseremini

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« on: November 24, 2015, 02:47:17 PM »
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  • Just received the following email from SSPX
    Lets hope it is complete!   :scratchchin:


    COMING THIS SUNDAY: THE LAUNCH OF THE NEW MARCEL LEFEBVRE SITE

    We are proud to announce that on November 29th, the First Sunday of Advent, the Society of St. Pius X will be launching its new website: Marcel Lefebvre (marcellefebvre.info).

    This special site has been several years in the making and is an exceptional resource for learning about Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. This new website is complete with inspiring biographical texts, edifying quotes from his contemporaries, fascinating historic images and short videos, as well as suggested books and media.

    Get to know Archbishop Lefebvre: the man, the missionary priest, the seminary professor, the bishop, the apostolic delegate, the "Iron Bishop", the founder, and most importantly, the molder of priests.

     
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    « Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 03:02:25 PM »
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  • May we be better for this wonderful blessing.
    May the Light shine clear for all willing to learn
    the truth and keep it for Christ.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 24, 2015, 09:06:46 PM »
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    COMING THIS SUNDAY: THE LAUNCH OF THE NEW MARCEL LEFEBVRE SITE


    This Sunday........... let's see.......... that would be the First Sunday of Advent.........

    I'm from Roger Mahonyville, and I learned many years ago to be circuмspect regarding anything in the Church that gets started early in Advent.  Mahony used this time of year for ALL of his major innovations.  It seems this is when Catholics are their weakest for watching out because they're thinking about getting ready for Christmas and anyone who raises suspicion about the Church in early Advent is immediately seen as a wet blanket, a party pooper or a sourpuss.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 06:50:16 PM »
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  • This is the trailer for the uncoming site.
    So far it looks promising.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZWCmXucazQ&feature=youtu.be
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    « Reply #4 on: December 02, 2015, 01:24:13 AM »
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  • wow.
    I am VERY impressed by the new site. It has beautiful, high-quality pictures and details about his life I never knew about. I also appreciate that much of the information is by primary sources, quotes, pictures, docuмents, etc.

    http://www.marcellefebvre.info/

    Here is one that resonated with me the most...
    "We are sick people, and we repeat three times before receiving Holy Communion: "Lord, I am not worthy that Thou shouldst enter under my roof, but only say the word, and my soul shall be healed." We need the Physician of our souls. The remedy is Our Lord Jesus Christ, His Cross, His Blood; it is Holy Communion. In Holy Communion we receive Our Lord Jesus Christ immolated on the Cross; He it is who heals our souls. Knowing this, we must accept suffering and penance in reparation for our sins, so that our souls can be restored to the order willed by God.” ~+Lefebvre


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    « Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 03:59:00 AM »
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  • They have a "romanitas" tab with the subheadings "son of Rome", "servant of Rome" and "true obedience". I actually wasn't expecting them to be so blatant about it. What an embarrassment.
    "There's a mix of passion and shortsightedness in me, even when I'm positive that I'm doing my very best to see things for what they are, that warns me that I'll never know for sure. Undoubtedly I must follow the truth I can see, I have no choice and I must live on; but that is for me only, not to impose on others." - Fr. Leonardo Castellani

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    « Reply #6 on: December 02, 2015, 07:48:41 AM »
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  • I disagree. True Romanitas was one of the Archbishop's virtues. He bought Albano precisely because he wanted all his seminarians to study near Rome, to come to know and love Rome as he did during his time at the French seminary. Bishop Tissier writes about this very well in his biography. We are Roman Catholics, and we should be proud.

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    They have a "romanitas" tab with the subheadings "son of Rome", "servant of Rome" and "true obedience". I actually wasn't expecting them to be so blatant about it. What an embarrassment.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 02, 2015, 07:53:01 AM »
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  • Do they have any of his quotes on there that would make an impending reconciliation "uncomfortable"?

    I'm guessing that those are conveniently ignored.


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    « Reply #8 on: December 02, 2015, 08:26:06 AM »
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  • It is at least a masterful example of web design.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 02, 2015, 08:42:46 AM »
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    It is at least a masterful example of web design.


    I wonder if its the product of the re-branding company?

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    « Reply #10 on: December 02, 2015, 08:54:02 AM »
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    I disagree. True Romanitas was one of the Archbishop's virtues. He bought Albano precisely because he wanted all his seminarians to study near Rome, to come to know and love Rome as he did during his time at the French seminary. Bishop Tissier writes about this very well in his biography. We are Roman Catholics, and we should be proud.

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    They have a "romanitas" tab with the subheadings "son of Rome", "servant of Rome" and "true obedience". I actually wasn't expecting them to be so blatant about it. What an embarrassment.

    Under the romanitas tab, there is "son of rome" which is a page with the following on it (the lower case letters in these tabs is a bit weird to me - seems influenced by Internet jargon and text messaging practices):

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    An intellectual conversion

    Marcel Lefebvre acknowledged that in the seminary, in the school of the popes, he underwent a genuine intellectual conversion.

         "[It] was a revelation for me. During my studies [in college], I had never really grasped how much was at stake in this fight of the Church for the Church and Christianity. I remember... coming to seminary with incorrect ideas which I modified during my studies. For example, I thought that it was excellent that the State was separated from the Church. Oh yes! I was a Liberal! ..."
         

        "And I realized that in fact I had quite a few wrong ideas.... I was very pleased to learn the truth, happy to learn that I had been wrong, that I had to change my way of thinking about certain things, especially in studying the encyclicals of the popes, which showed us all the modern errors, those magnificent encyclicals of all the popes up to St. Pius X and Pius XI.”


    I wonder if any seminarians today have a similar experience.

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    « Reply #11 on: December 02, 2015, 09:08:50 AM »
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  • This is a complete disgrace to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.  

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    « Reply #12 on: December 02, 2015, 09:17:05 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    Do they have any of his quotes on there that would make an impending reconciliation "uncomfortable"?

    I'm guessing that those are conveniently ignored.

    I don't see anything like that on the site.

    The tabs "biography > last years" is a page that ends like this:

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    Age did not slow him down

    The archbishop traveled throughout the world to preach the pure Faith in its fullness, to support families and to encourage the laity. He also conferred the sacrament of confirmation, despite the frequent displeasure of the local bishops.

    In 1982, at the age of 77, he resigned from his position as Superior General of the Society and left the government thereof to his successor, Fr. Franz Schmidberger. For a long time he hoped that one bishop or another would take care of the confirmations and especially the priestly ordinations after he was gone, or more reliably, that Rome would once again recognize the Society of St. Pius X by giving it a modified canonical status: sufficient freedom of action in relation to the dioceses, and the grant of at least one bishop, a member of the Society, to confer holy orders.

    But his efforts along these lines with the Roman authorities failed in May 1988. Given his advanced age, and not wishing to leave hundreds of seminarians and thousands of lay faithful orphans, he had no alternative but to consecrate four bishops himself, despite the opposition of Pope John Paul II. On June 30, 1988, in Econe, with Bishop de Castro Mayer, he consecrated his successors in the episcopacy.
    “Operation Survival"

    In agreeing to incur unjustly the penalty of excommunication, he deemed that the situation of necessity of the faithful, caused by the modernism of the highest-ranking ecclesial authorities, justified his act, which he called “Operation Survival”.

    With complete peace of mind and soul he passed away on March 25, 1991.


    So it seems they abbreviate the topic so as to avoid the theme of regularization.

    I get a sense of Masonic structure here, a kind of "Let's wrap up his life like a Museum exhibit, to display for curious visitors, while keeping it all in a past tense mode, where his life is a relic of a long lost era.  People can see where the Society came from, but that was then and this is now, a complete separation from the past."

    I have read that there were no museums before the French Revolution.  There were libraries but no museums.  The latter were set up by Freemasons to give a vent to popular demand for remembering the age gone by, to satisfy sentimentalism over things of the past, even if they're no longer relevant to the modern age.  It also gave an element of credibility to historical displays and those of natural history that might be nothing more than fanciful constructs of the imagination based on nothing factual at all, such as displays featuring biological evolution do.  Political history can be reconstructed like they do in communist countries (re-writing history) and scientism can be be promoted as the new god that overshadows Biblical testimony.

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    « Reply #13 on: December 02, 2015, 09:23:49 AM »
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    Do they have any of his quotes on there that would make an impending reconciliation "uncomfortable"?

    I'm guessing that those are conveniently ignored.

    I don't see anything like that on the site.


    So it's been sanitized then.  Perhaps it even slants towards an impending reconciliation.  Interesting that they put this site up now.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 02, 2015, 09:31:44 AM »
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    Do they have any of his quotes on there that would make an impending reconciliation "uncomfortable"?

    I'm guessing that those are conveniently ignored.

    I don't see anything like that on the site.


    So it's been sanitized then.  Perhaps it even slants towards an impending reconciliation.  Interesting that they put this site up now.


    Déjà vu.  In 2012, they were posting Archbishop Lefebvre quotes on some SSPX websites, and they seemed cherry-picked out-of-context to try to sound pro-"reconciliation".