Author Topic: New 1962 Missal? (Read 15689 times)

Raphaela · « **Reply #50 on:** July 15, 2012, 09:36:06 PM »

Has anyone yet found any hard evidence that a 2012 Missal is coming out for 2 December? So far it just seems to be a rumour on Traditio.

For a new version of a missal there would have to be a standard text (editio typica) published by the Vatican and docuмents saying when it can start being used, etc. There seems to be nothing like this at all.

Raphaela · « **Reply #51 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:35:57 PM »

Quote from: MarieAuxiliadora

After reading this article (below), we personally called Baronius Press who publishes for the Vatican and they confirmed that the "new 1962 Missal" was in the process of being printed and would be out "sometime next year" I saw recently an advertisement and ordered the booklet but they sent the wrong thing. Now, the advertisement is gone from their webpage.

MarieAuxiliadora, Do you remember what the Baronius Press advertisement said and what was the booklet you ordered? ("Sometime next year" contradicts the "2 December" of Traditio.) Many thanks.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #52 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:21:10 PM »

Remember their history.

It is in December, during Advent, that major changes to the liturgy are announced
and implemented. They might be announced before that time, but the preparations
are made, the printing is done and the training is complete by December so it can
go into effect. That's when the Novus Ordo was started, it's when the various
stages of the "transitional rite" were trucked in, it's when Mahony made all his
ridiculous and dopey changes like having everyone start from the rear of the
church coming forward to communion. He said, "the last shall be first and the
first shall be last." It's when they demanded that we stand for the Our Father and
remain standing after communion. It's when they said we should stand during
the consecration. It's when they said we should wave our arms and shout when
we sing the Our Father. It's even when they said we should now return to saying
"Through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault," in the
thing they refer to as the "Confeteor," but it isn't. This is all Novus Ordo.

So if they're going to have a new edition of the 1962 missal, it would be coming
out in December. No brainer.

I guess I could be wrong, but I think it would be a first for a change like this to
happen in January.

They make liturgical changes in December, when they can get away with it because
everyone's getting ready for Christmas.

They do the baptism rituals for adults during Easter season, as well as confirmations,
one of the few traditions that are still kept.

Then they ordain new priests and consecrate bishops in June and July.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #53 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:27:40 PM »

Quote from: Raphaela

Quote from: MarieAuxiliadora
After reading this article (below), we personally called Baronius Press who publishes for the Vatican and they confirmed that the "new 1962 Missal" was in the process of being printed and would be out "sometime next year" I saw recently an advertisement and ordered the booklet but they sent the wrong thing. Now, the advertisement is gone from their webpage.

MarieAuxiliadora, Do you remember what the Baronius Press advertisement said and what was the booklet you ordered? ("Sometime next year" contradicts the "2 December" of Traditio.) Many thanks.

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #54 on:** July 16, 2012, 09:47:58 PM »

Baronius does have a very attractive 1962 missal in stock, already. It's been there
since 2007:

Baronius Press 1962 Daily Missal -- Available in Black, White or Burgundy flexible leather, $59.95

One feature that's noteworthy is this:

Table of Moveable Feasts up to AD 2066

Another is this:

Kyriale, in traditional Gregorian chant notation, including:

Tones for the most common Ordinaries: I (Lux et Origo), IV (Cunctipotens Genitor Deus), VIII (De Angelis), IX (cuм Jubilo), XI (Orbis Factor), XXVII (Sundays of Advent & Lent), XVIII (Deus Genitor Alme)

Tones for the Asperges and the Vidi Aquam

Tones for the Credo: I, II, III and IV

So, all you'd need to fix it would be an insert for the traditional Holy Week prayers
and a post-it on the Canon page that omits the name of St. Joseph! :rolleyes:

But if you wait until December, you might need inserts for every Mass because the
Prayers (Collects) might be all different!

What are they going to do with their old copies in stock??