I don't mean to shock anyone, but facts is facts, Señor.


The New Vulgate has been in use for something like 15 years already.

These worms that never die actually re-wrote the entire Bible with updated,
Vatican II-speak Latin language revisions.

Latin is the most indestructible language in the history of the world, but that
doesn't stop the Modernists, the slaves of satan.

   A "new" 1962 Missal?

   That's like being "kind of pregnant."

   Either you are, or you are not.

   Either the Missal is 1962, or it is 2012.

   Clever though, how the Roman's marketed it.

   The indultarian dummies are in overdrive right now with their "Crime-Think" technique, trying to preclude the inconvenient thought from arising in their minds as to how there can be such a thing as a "new" 1962 Missal.

   I'm sure after a week of confusion, and a couple sermons on obedience, the present confusion will give way to a zeal for the new Missal.

   It will once again all just be a matter of interpretation to them.

   Just semantics, they will say.

   And like a frog in heated water, they will succeed in making themselves oblivious that they are defending their own loss of faith under the pretext of zeal for the same.

  A "new" 1962 Missal?

   That's like being "kind of pregnant."

   Either you are, or you are not.

   Either the Missal is 1962, or it is 2012.

   Clever though, how the Roman's marketed it.

   The indultarian dummies are in overdrive right now with their "Crime-Think" technique, trying to preclude the inconvenient thought from arising in their minds as to how there can be such a thing as a "new" 1962 Missal.

   I'm sure after a week of confusion, and a couple sermons on obedience, the present confusion will give way to a zeal for the new Missal.

   It will once again all just be a matter of interpretation to them.

   Just semantics, they will say.

   And like a frog in heated water, they will succeed in making themselves oblivious that they are defending their own loss of faith under the pretext of zeal for the same.

So glad you are posting! Happy!
Someone must have been reading my mind.
Can anyone tell me if this is true?  Thank You.
Pope Benedict XVI Missal of 2012
Will Replace the 1962 Missal for traditional Communities on December 2, 2012

    Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP)
    Institute of Christ the King (ICR)
    Institute of the Good Shepherd (IBP)
    Fraternity of St. John Vianney (FSJV)

The Vatican II / transitional "1962" missal is problematic enough.  I can't wait for the 2012 missal of BXVI    

I was thinking of an analogy of the Traditional Pius X Missal compared to that of "Blessed John XXIII (the second)"...

Imagine you ordered a medium-rare Chateaubriand a la Bouquetiere, with the mandatory Bordelaise, Béarnaise, and a bottle of Châteauneuf-du-Pape.

The waiter indeed brought the essence of the Chateaubriand (beef tenderloin)... but it was medium-well and the Bouquetiere was replace by frozen mixed vegetables and french fries.  Ketchup replaced the Bordelaise and Béarnaise and it was served with a 24oz Budweiser.

Some might respond: "Stop your complaining Ferdinand, it is still tenderloin!  Pass me the Ketchup".

An aside:  If the chef's qualifications are dubious, the tenderloin just might be textured vegetable protein (TVP).

 :ready-to-eat:

I'm not the most internet saavy person around, so perhaps someone can help me.

I have been looking for some docuмent or some official announcement from the Conciliar vatican or a publishing company or news service or something confirming that indult communities will be required to use a "new 1962 missal" beginning with the First Sunday of Advent, 2012.  I have been completely unable to locate anything in English.

Before I start telling people I know about this, I would like something official on the internet that I could point people to.  I was also looking for a website that described the changes that are coming with the new missal.  The only place I could find is this topic on CathInfo.

Can anyone else locate something?  Thanks.

I'm not the most internet saavy person around, so perhaps someone can help me.

I have been looking for some docuмent or some official announcement from the Conciliar vatican or a publishing company or news service or something confirming that indult communities will be required to use a "new 1962 missal" beginning with the First Sunday of Advent, 2012.  I have been completely unable to locate anything in English.

Before I start telling people I know about this, I would like something official on the internet that I could point people to.  I was also looking for a website that described the changes that are coming with the new missal.  The only place I could find is this topic on CathInfo.

Can anyone else locate something?  Thanks.

TKGS,

After reading this article (below), we personally called Baronius Press who publishes for the Vatican and they confirmed that the "new 1962 Missal" was in the process of being printed and would be out "sometime next year" I saw recently an advertisement and ordered the booklet but they sent the wrong thing. Now, the advertisement is gone from their webpage. I have sent them an email this morning to see what they have to say. They may want to keep it quiet for now waiting for +Fellay to sign? I can't understand why I'm not finding much either. I'll keep looking and post if I find.

The tel. for Baronius Press are: USA 814-414-0245
and for UK 44 (0)870 112 3865 maybe someone in the UK can call them for you and post their reply.

By the way, this new 1962 missal is only the initial missal for the reform of the reform. Not to be confused with the 2007 edition from Baronius Press after Summorum Pontificuм.

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Vatican Diary / The pope's alms and other curiosities

Almost a million euro obtained in 2010 from the sale of pontifical blessings has been given to seven thousand needy families. Another 135 million has been distributed by Propaganda Fide in assistance to mission territories. And it has also been learned...

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VATICAN CITY, September 19, 2011 – "The activity of the Holy See" is a hefty volume that gives a year-by-year account of the actions of the pope and the Roman curia. It is an "unofficial publication," as specified on the frontispiece, but in spite of this it contains not a little information, sometimes rather unusual, that cannot be found in other Vatican sources.

To verify this it is enough to leaf through the latest edition, on the activities of 2010, which has just been printed by Libreria Editrice Vaticana (1343 pp., 80.00 euro).

In it we learn, for example:

- that last year the disciplinary office of the congregation for the doctrine of the faith opened 643 procedures, 82 percent of which concern "delicta graviora" (which include the sɛҳuąƖ abuse of minors by clergy), 8 percent "offenses against the faith," 3 percent "cases of apparitions," and 7 percent other matters of various kinds.

- that during the same period, the congregation for divine worship and the discipline of the sacraments dealt with several hundred cases regarding requests for papal dispensations in order to remarry after a marriage "ratified but not consummated." A dispensation that was granted in 301 cases, and withheld in 2.

- that the congregation for the evangelization of peoples gave, through the pontifical society for the propagation of the faith (whose charitable fund, however, has been "significantly" reduced because of the economic recession), more than 85 million dollars in assistance to dioceses in mission territory. More than 30 million was distributed through the pontifical society of St. Peter the Apostle. And more than 19 million through the pontifical society of missionary childhood.

- that the Roman Rota, whose jurisprudence is a model for all the ecclesiastical tribunals in the world, during the judicial year of 2010 issued 175 definitive verdicts on the nullity of marriage, the majority of them (93 versus 82) in favor of nullity.

- that the pontifical council for legislative texts, at the direction of the pope, set up four study groups in view of a possible revision of parts of the code of canon law, on questions of penal law, procedural law, marriage and family law, and the relationships between the code of the Latin Church and that of the Eastern Churches.

- that a joint commission was set up, with experts of the commission "Ecclesia Dei" and of the congregation for divine worship, for the "updating" of the commemorations of the saints and the "possible insertion of new prefaces" into the preconciliar Roman missal of 1962, to which Benedict XVI gave full citizenship in 2007.

- that the office of papal charities, in response to almost seven thousand letters from individuals and families requesting help, provided "with discretion" and "on a day-by-day basis," in the name of the pope, a sum "close to one million euro." A sum entirely covered by the contributions received for parchments with apostolic blessings requested by the faithful: 115,500 parchments issued directly by the office of papal charities, and 112,00 distributed through almost eighty partner organizations.

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http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/01/revisions-of-1962-missal-coming-soon.html

The Revision of the Missal of 1962.

The Concerns of the International Federation Una Voce,

Preamble:
It is known that work has commenced in Rome on the revision of the Missal of 1962. As has been the norm in recent years, these matters are being conducted discreetly and only made public when the relevant docuмent is promulgated, viz: Summorum Pontificuм and Universae Ecclesiae. The very narrow remit given by the Holy Father to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei in his Letter to Accompany Summorum Pontificuм [7 July, 2007] was that: “..new Saints and some of the new Prefaces can and should be inserted in the old Missal.”  No other changes were sanctioned. Pope Benedict also stated that “The Ecclesia Dei Commission, in contact with various bodies devoted to the usus antiquior, will study the possibilities in this regard.”

Those who are “devoted to the usus antiquior” must continually and carefully ensure that this specific and narrow remit is not exceeded by those in Rome and elsewhere who desire to undermine the integrity of the Missal of 1962 by demanding the inclusion of some of the novelties which were introduced into the liturgy post-1962.  The International Federation Una Voce was founded in early 1965, even before the Second Vatican Council had ended, and is by far the oldest organisation, lay or clerical, which is devoted to the usus antiquior. While other organisations and societies, clerical and lay, may also be devoted to the ‘usus antiquior’, none can match the 46 year history of the Una Voce Federation in its unswerving devotion to this cause. The Federation has played a unique role in being the first, and the continuous voice of the lay faithful in seeking adherence to the expressed wishes of the Fathers of the Second Vatican Council as declared in Sacrosanctum Concilium n.4:
“Finally, in faithful obedience to tradition, the Sacred Council declares that Holy Mother Church holds all lawfully recognised rites to be of equal right and dignity; that she wishes to preserve them in the future and to foster them in every way.”

The members of the Foederatio Internationalis Una Voce, being ever mindful of this decree of the Council Fathers, have been faithfully obedient to tradition, have consistently upheld the equal right and dignity of the Mass of Antiquity, and have striven since 1965 to preserve and foster this lawfully recognised rite. In his motu proprio Summorum Pontificuм, our Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI, confirmed what the International Federation has always claimed, that the Missal of 1962 ‘was never juridically abrogated’. The Holy Father also confirmed in his letter that his decision was to bring about “an interior reconciliation in the heart of the church.”

Liturgical innovation and creativity is unwanted by the faithful and has consistently disturbed, angered and alienated them in the years following the Second Vatican Council. This must not happen again with the adulteration of the Missal of 1962. The International Federation accepts organic development but emphatically rejects liturgical innovation which is alien to the character, spirit, and integrity of the usus antiquior.  The inestimable treasure of the ancient liturgy must not be undermined by novelty, reductionism, and destructive modernisation. Nothing describes the attraction of the usus antiquior more powerfully than the growing number of young Catholics world-wide, including many seminarians and young priests, who are discovering this ancient and deeply spiritual liturgy and are being captivated by it.  

We are now entering a critical period in the life of the liturgy of Holy Mother Church. Decisions that are being taken in Rome today will have a lasting impact on the spiritual welfare of the faithful for generations. The need to implement the will of the Holy Father for a limited and organic change in harmony with the character of the Missal of 1962 must not be the excuse for the introduction into the traditional Roman liturgy of alien concepts that created so much disunity and disharmony in the years immediately following the Second Vatican Council.

Following the publication of the motu proprio Summorum Pontificuм, the President of the Foederatio Internationalis Una Voce presented a docuмent to the Ecclesia Dei Commission in June 2008. Now that work on amending the Missal of 1962 has commenced, it may be timely to republish this docuмent, in an updated form, to make clear, once again, the desires and aspirations of the members of the Una Voce Federation.