Capucins of Morgon @ 2:38? They're Resistance, not SSPX.Interesting? Any more info on this?
I checked their calendar, there's no mention of the Capucins doing any sort of pilgrimage to Rome.
It's just a photo of a random Capucin monk.
Capucins of Morgon @ 2:38? They're Resistance, not SSPX.They are divided. However, their priests are systematically ordained by the SSPX Bishops.
I checked their calendar, there's no mention of the Capucins doing any sort of pilgrimage to Rome.
It's just a photo of a random Capucin monk.
Holy Feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, today...Instituted by Pius XII 1945 AD.(http://waol-embed://aoldesktop.htmlresources.zip/C%3a%5cUsers%5cBrian%2e000%5cAppData%5cLocal%5cAolDesktopData%5cTemp%5cimg40aki1n4%2epng)(https://i.imgur.com/VrmpxRL.jpeg)
The SSPX Goes to Modernist Rome, The Ecuмenical Zoo (https://kokxnews.substack.com/p/the-sspx-goes-to-modernist-rome-the?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faad9698e-90bc-44a4-b280-2c25c4c7998f_606x429.png&open=false)Lots of fantastic coverage today on this! And this video just popped up in youtube feed:
Pro-SSPX influencer Nicholas Cavazos was ecstatic that Modernist usurper Leo approved the event.
“We are so back” he gleefully declared (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Ov0wpwcEo&t=94s) while praising Leo’s generosity.
Apparently being “back” means women (https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-05/pope-leo-sr-merletti-dicastery-for-consecrated-life.html) running (https://x.com/RichRaho/status/1937509795793096784) the (https://x.com/StephenKokx/status/1932485748801909149) Vatican, priestly blessings (https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/gαy-blessings-will-remain-under-pope-leo-vatican-doctrine-chief-says) for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, and Latin Masses being canceled in Detroit and Charlotte, North Carolina.
Here is some more rotten fruit of Fellay’s agreement made in 2012 with the counterfeit church: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mKbSklwDRcwCouple of thoughts...
Couple of thoughts...That video seems to be produced by the Hewkonites. Bunch of sour grapes, completely forgetting that the SSPX has organized such jubilee pilgrimages every 25 years since 1975.
There is objectively nothing evil going to the Vatican for a Jubilee ...Arch M. LEFEBVRE did that in 1975, with all the priests/ seminarians of Écône.
BUT this pilgrimage has SSPX influencer ( is that the OP video commentater?) focusing on " Here we are, we want to be part of the Church blah blah. "
So the impression this has in the media is that neoSspx really wants to become united to Leo XIV and the unrepentant Modernist Rome. I'd like to know what the neoSspx superior said in his sermon on Wednesday, in Calle Op...? Gotta be a Telegram user to hear it, " La Porte Latine web site.
Hopefully he is vocal against anything and everything that is liberal, sinful, unTrad at the Vatican. He has the world's stage; shout■■
Capucins of Morgon @ 2:38? They're Resistance, not SSPX.The Capuchins of Morgon are still with the SSPX. Only the Avrille Dominicans have ties with the Resistance.
I checked their calendar, there's no mention of the Capucins doing any sort of pilgrimage to Rome.
It's just a photo of a random Capucin monk.
Quote from: trento (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=77666.msg996727#msg996727) 2025-08-22, 10:43:31 AMIt is very sad if this is your belief, are you resistance or part of the NeoSSPX?
The Capuchins of Morgon are still with the SSPX. Only the Avrille Dominicans have ties with the Resistance.
Quote from: Twice dyed (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=77666.msg996725#msg996725) 2025-08-22, 10:14:03 AMAs +Bishop Williamson affirmed in 1996, the battle for souls is waged in the arena of public opinion. This is why Catholic action is indispensable and why we must never remain silent or confine ourselves to private circles.
Couple of thoughts...
There is objectively nothing evil going to the Vatican for a Jubilee ...Arch M. LEFEBVRE did that in 1975, with all the priests/ seminarians of Écône.
BUT this pilgrimage has SSPX influencer ( is that the OP video commentater?) focusing on " Here we are, we want to be part of the Church blah blah. "
So the impression this has in the media is that neoSspx really wants to become united to Leo XIV and the unrepentant Modernist Rome. I'd like to know what the neoSspx superior said in his sermon on Wednesday, in Calle Op...? Gotta be a Telegram user to hear it, " La Porte Latine web site.
Hopefully he is vocal against anything and everything that is liberal, sinful, unTrad at the Vatican. He has the world's stage; shout■■
As +Bishop Williamson affirmed in 1996, the battle for souls is waged in the arena of public opinion. This is why Catholic action is indispensable and why we must never remain silent or confine ourselves to private circles.So, what do you, (all-knowing one?) suggest?
Fr. P preached August 20, 2025 Colle Op. in 5 languages.I’m not sure how it is “a special grace?”
Here is a summary of the French part.
*******
Fr. Davide Pagliarani's Sermon, Aug. 20, 2025 AD.
Jubilee Pilgrimage.
Summary of the sermon.
A special grace to be here today.
He thanks all those who contributed to organize the Pilgrimage. And families who came from far away, what courage; their children will always remember this special grace.
So why is our presence today so important? what reason?
Rome is a city of martyrs. Providence has it that we have Mass so close
It is very sad if this is your belief, are you resistance or part of the NeoSSPX?Those are Roman basilicas. Yes, they are under the control of the Modernists, but you are conflating things. We can still gain indulgences and graces from such pilgrimages.
First, let’s be clear: the words of +Archbishop Lefebvre are not “influencer commentary.” They are the unvarnished teaching of the founder of the SSPX on the crisis in the Church. He repeatedly warned that Rome was in apostasy. Whether the SSPX chooses to ignore that reality today does not change the truth of his words.
Second, yes, the Society has organized pilgrimages every 25 years, but the context matters. A pilgrimage is not an act of fidelity in itself. Walking into Rome, passing through Holy Doors, and celebrating Mass in conciliar basilicas under the authority of the apostate Vatican—especially after the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration—is not a statement of resistance; it is submission. External grandeur cannot redeem internal compromise.
Quote from: trento (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=77666.msg996773#msg996773) 2025-08-22, 11:37:30 PMYes, they are Roman basilicas, but Archbishop Lefebvre already showed the difference in 1975: his pilgrimage was an act of resistance, coming just after his 1974 Declaration rejecting the “Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies” of Vatican II. He never marched under the blessing of Conciliar Rome. The Neo-SSPX’s 2025 pilgrimage, however, follows from Bishop Fellay’s 2012 Doctrinal Declaration, which submitted the Society to the authority of Vatican II Rome. The first was a testimony of resistance; the second is the fruit of submission.
Those are Roman basilicas. Yes, they are under the control of the Modernists, but you are conflating things. We can still gain indulgences and graces from such pilgrimages.
Yes, they are Roman basilicas, but Archbishop Lefebvre already showed the difference in 1975: his pilgrimage was an act of resistance, coming just after his 1974 Declaration rejecting the “Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies” of Vatican II. He never marched under ...NeoSspx announced their pilgrimage even before the Jubilee was announced by Rome...so they were going to have it anyway: did they know there was to be a Jubilee? of course! But registering with Roman authorities?...it don't look good...The optics would have been very suprising and positive if 8,000 NeoSspx clergy/faithful simply processed to St. Peter's Square...who would stop them? Then a speech or two to the world media about the Modernists/ Apostates controlling the Church - now that God would bless.
The first was a testimony of resistance;
Was Archbishop Lefebvre’s pilgrimage a protest against Conciliar Rome, or was it participation with it? And what, then, is the Neo-SSPX’s?
Quote from: Twice dyed (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=77666.msg996813#msg996813) 2025-08-23, 9:32:16 AMI am sorry, but the claim that the Neo-SSPX announced their pilgrimage before the Vatican declared the Jubilee is factually incorrect. The Holy See published the decree outlining the Holy Year 2025 and the conditions for obtaining Jubilee indulgences on May 13, 2024 (fsspx.news (https://fsspx.news/en/news/how-obtain-jubilee-indulgence-2025-46191)). The Neo-SSPX then organized their pilgrimage for August 19 to 21, 2025, publicly aligning it with the official Jubilee. By registering with Vatican authorities and following the rules to obtain indulgences, the Neo-SSPX submitted to the authority of Conciliar Rome, participating in a system it claims to oppose.
NeoSspx announced their pilgrimage even before the Jubilee was announced by Rome...so they were going to have it anyway: did they know there was to be a Jubilee? of course! But registering with Roman authorities?...it don't look good...The optics would have been very suprising and positive if 8,000 NeoSspx clergy/faithful simply processed to St. Peter's Square...who would stop them? Then a speech or two to the world media about the Modernists/ Apostates controlling the Church - now that God would bless.
That didn't happen, neoSspx submitted.
****
AI:
Archbishop Lefebvre went to Rome in 1975 to participate in the Holy Year with the seminary of Ecône, but it was not to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the Second Vatican Council, which he criticized. His goal was to demonstrate his rejection of neo-modernist and neo-Protestant Rome, which he believed had corrupted the Church and the faith through post-conciliar reforms. He used this participation to affirm his fidelity to eternal Rome and his desire to continue his work of priestly formation, far removed from the new developments of the Council.
***
Note: +Lefebvre's 1974 Declaration was still quite the news of the day, even in 1975. So his presence in Rome was just a manifestation of his hatred for all the things Vatican II was changing.
Did he register with Vatican brass? Very probably NOT!
I had read this and I didn't do my research...so you are right...sorrrryIt's always refreshing to hear the saintly Archbishops sermons. They are gentle, firm in the faith and militant all at the same time. This spirit has definitely diminished in the society in recent years.
****
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/is-the-sspx-pilgrimage-an-official
What has SSPX said about it?
The SSPX announced the pilgrimage in December 2024, just before the Jubilee Year officially opened.
In a letter sent to friends and benefactors, U.S. district superior Fr. John Fullerton noted that 2025 marks the 50th anniversary of a pilgrimage that SSPX founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre led during the 1975 Holy Year, only five years after founding the Society.
*****************
Is it true that he celebrated the Tridentine Mass sometime somewhere at the Vatican, during his protest pilgrimage? The link has the ENTIRE article like a diary...
Read the article and find out! Excerpt.
___________
https://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Apologia/Vol_one/Chapter_6.htm
The sermon which Mgr. Lefebvre preached in the Basilica of Maxentius on 25 May 1975 was published in The Remnant of 6 March 1976. It was entitled "The One True Religion."
The One True Religion
My dear brethren:
If there is one day on which the Church's liturgy affirms our Faith, that day is the Feast of the Blessed Trinity. This morning, in the breviary which the priest formerly had to recite, he had to add to the psalms of Prime the Creed of St. Athanasius. This is the creed which affirms clearly, serenely, but perfectly, what we are bound to believe (...)Indeed, all our faith is summed up in our belief in the Most Holy Trinity and in Our Lord Jesus Christ, God made Man. The whole of our Creed, which we shall sing in a few minutes, is focused, as it were, on the very person of Our Lord Jesus Christ. He it is who is our God, He our Savior; it is through Him that we shall enter Heaven. He is the door of the sheep-fold, He is the Way, the Truth, the Life. There is no other name on earth by which we may be saved: the Gospels tell us all this.
Therefore, when our Faith is being attacked from all sides we must hold steadfastly and firmly to it. We must never accept that there can be any compromise in the affirmation of our Faith. Herein, I think, (...) this tragic situation we are going through, lies in seeing that our Faith is no longer affirmed with certainty: that through a false ecuмenism we have, as it were, reached the point of putting all religions on the same footing, of granting what is called "equal rights" to all religions. This is a tragedy because it is all entirely contrary to the truth of the Church. We believe that Our Lord Jesus Christ is our God, our Savior, our Redeemer; we believe that the Catholic Church alone has the Truth, thus we draw the proper conclusions, by respecting in our personal lives the Religion which Our Lord Jesus Christ founded. (...)
He it is who has given us the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, He who died upon the Cross. Already on the day of the Last (...)thus making priests of those to whom He gave the power to consecrate the Eucharist. He did this by His own Will, His Will as God, because Jesus Christ is God; He has, thus, given us the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which we love so much, which is our life, our hope, and our salvation. This Sacrifice of Calvary cannot be transformed, the Sacrifice of the Last Supper cannot be transformed - for there was a Sacrifice at the Last Supper - we cannot transform this Sacrifice into a simple commemorative meal, a simple repast at which a memory is recalled, this is not possible. To do such a thing would be to destroy the whole of our Religion, to destroy the most precious thing which Our Lord has given us here on earth, the immaculate( ...)
The Church is essentially priestly because she offers the redemptive Sacrifice which Our Lord made on Calvary, and which she renews upon our altars. For a true Catholic, one who is truly faithful to Our Lord Jesus Christ, anything which touches what He Himself established moves him to the very depths of his heart, for he loves it as the apple of his eye. So, if it comes, in any way, to the point of destroying from within what Our Lord Jesus Christ gave to us as the source of life, as the source of grace, then we suffer, we suffer dreadfully, and we demand absolutely that this spring, this fountain of life, this fountain of eternal life, this fountain of Grace be preserved for us whole and entire.
And if such is true of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, it is also true of the Sacraments. It is not possible to make any considerable changes in the Sacraments without destroying them, without running the risk of rendering them invalid, and consequently without running the risk of drying up the grace, the supernatural and eternal life which they bring to us. It is again Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who established the Sacraments; it is not for us, we are not the masters of the Sacraments: even the Sovereign Pontiff cannot change them. Without doubt he can make changes in the rites, in what is accidental in any Sacrament; but no Sovereign Pontiff can change the substance of a Sacrament, for that was established by Our Lord Jesus Christ. It is Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who took such care in the founding of our holy Religion, Who left us directions as to what we must do, Who gave Himself to us in the Holy Eucharist through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. What more could we ask? What other religion can lay claim to possess such a thing? And why? Because the only true religion is that of the Catholic Church.
This is a matter of fundamental importance, fundamental for our behavior, fundamental for our religion, and fundamental also for the way we should behave towards those people who do not believe in our holy Religion. This is extremely important, because it is precisely towards those who do not believe, those who do not have our Faith, that we must have immense charity, the true charity. We must not deceive them by telling them that their religion is as good as ours - that is a lie, that is selfishness, that is not true charity. If we consider what profound riches have been given to us in this Religion of ours, then we should have the desire to make it known to others, and share these riches and not say to them: "But you already have all you need! There is no point in your joining us, your religion is as good as ours." See how this matter is one of paramount importance, for it is precisely such false ecuмenism which makes the adherents of all the other religions believe that they have certain means of salvation. Now this is false. Only the Catholic Religion, and only the Mystical Body of Christ, possesses the means of salvation. We cannot be saved without Jesus, and we cannot be saved without grace. "He who does not believe," said Our Lord, "will be condemned." We must believe in Our Lord Jesus Christ in order to be saved. "He who believes shall be saved; he who obeys My commandments shall have eternal life; he who eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood shall have eternal life." Here is what Our Lord taught us. Therefore, we should have a tremendous desire, a really tremendous desire, to communicate our Faith to others. And this is exactly what made the missionary spirit of the Church. If the strength, the certainty, of our faith is weakened, then the missionary spirit of the Church also diminishes, since it is no longer necessary to cross the seas, to cross the oceans, to go and preach the Gospel, for what is the good of it? Let us leave each man to his own religion, if that religion is going to save him.
Therefore, we must hold fast to our Faith, we must adhere strictly to its affirmation, and we must not accept this false ecuмenism which makes all religions into sister-religions of Christianity, for they are nothing of the kind. It is very important to state this nowadays, because it is precisely this false ecuмenism which had too much influence after the Council. False ecuмenism is the reason why the seminaries are empty. Why is this so? Why are there no more vocations for the missionary orders? Precisely because young men no longer feel the need to make the Truth known to the whole world. They no longer feel the need to give themselves completely to Our Lord Jesus Christ simply because Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only Truth, the only Way, the only Life. What attracts the young to preach the Gospel is that they know they have the Truth. If vocations are withering away, it is due to this false ecuмenism. How we suffer at the thought that, in certain countries, people speak of "eucharistic hospitality," of "inter-communion" - as if one could give the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ to those who do not believe in the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, consequently to those who do not adore the Holy Eucharist, because they do not believe in it! Without sacrilege, without blasphemy, the Body and Blood of Our Savior cannot be given to a person who denies His Real Presence in the Eucharist. On this point, therefore, we must have a firm and solid faith, a faith which does not compromise. This is entirely in keeping with the tradition of the Church.
Thus the martyrs believed who lie buried everywhere in this basilica, and in all the churches of Rome, who suffered here in this forum of Augustus, who lived among pagans for three centuries and were persecuted as soon as they were known to be Christians. They were thrown into prison...our thoughts turn to the Mamertine prison, so close to us here, where Peter and Paul were put in chains because of their faith: And shall we be afraid to affirm our faith? We would not in that case be the true descendants of the martyrs, the true descendants of those Christians who shed their blood for Our Lord Jesus Christ in affirmation of their faith in Him. They, too, could indeed have said, "But, since all religions are of equal value, if I burn a little incense before an idol, what does that matter? My life will be saved." But they preferred to die, they preferred to be thrown to the beasts in the Colosseum, quite close to us here. So many, many martyrs were thrown to the beasts, rather than offer incense to pagan gods!
So, may our presence here in Rome be an occasion for us to strengthen our faith, to have, if necessary, the souls of martyrs, the souls of witnesses (for a martyr is a witness), the souls of witnesses of Our Lord Jesus Christ, witnesses of the Church. Here is what I wish you, my most dear brethren, and in this we must be unflinching, whatever happens. We must never agree to diminish our faith; and if by misfortune it were to happen that those who ought to defend our Faith came to tell us to lessen or diminish it, then we must say: "NO." Saint Paul put this very well: "Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema." Well, that, I think, sums up clearly what I wanted to say to you, so that when you return to your homes you may have the courage, the strength, despite difficulties, despite trials, to remain true to your Faith, come what may, We must think on these things, (...) because it is what Our Lord told us: "If we do not believe, we shall be condemned."
I had read this and I didn't do my research...so you are right...sorrrryIf the 1975 jubilee pilgrimage was a protest and done without Rome's knowledge, would ABL be allowed to celebrated Mass at a Roman basilica?
****
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/is-the-sspx-pilgrimage-an-official
What has SSPX said about it?
The SSPX announced the pilgrimage in December 2024, just before the Jubilee Year officially opened.
In a letter sent to friends and benefactors, U.S. district superior Fr. John Fullerton noted that 2025 marks the 50th anniversary of a pilgrimage that SSPX founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre led during the 1975 Holy Year, only five years after founding the Society.
*****************
Is it true that he celebrated the Tridentine Mass sometime somewhere at the Vatican, during his protest pilgrimage? The link has the ENTIRE article like a diary...
Read the article and find out! Excerpt.
___________
https://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Apologia/Vol_one/Chapter_6.htm
The sermon which Mgr. Lefebvre preached in the Basilica of Maxentius on 25 May 1975 was published in The Remnant of 6 March 1976. It was entitled "The One True Religion."
The One True Religion
My dear brethren:
If there is one day on which the Church's liturgy affirms our Faith, that day is the Feast of the Blessed Trinity. This morning, in the breviary which the priest formerly had to recite, he had to add to the psalms of Prime the Creed of St. Athanasius. This is the creed which affirms clearly, serenely, but perfectly, what we are bound to believe (...)Indeed, all our faith is summed up in our belief in the Most Holy Trinity and in Our Lord Jesus Christ, God made Man. The whole of our Creed, which we shall sing in a few minutes, is focused, as it were, on the very person of Our Lord Jesus Christ. He it is who is our God, He our Savior; it is through Him that we shall enter Heaven. He is the door of the sheep-fold, He is the Way, the Truth, the Life. There is no other name on earth by which we may be saved: the Gospels tell us all this.
Therefore, when our Faith is being attacked from all sides we must hold steadfastly and firmly to it. We must never accept that there can be any compromise in the affirmation of our Faith. Herein, I think, (...) this tragic situation we are going through, lies in seeing that our Faith is no longer affirmed with certainty: that through a false ecuмenism we have, as it were, reached the point of putting all religions on the same footing, of granting what is called "equal rights" to all religions. This is a tragedy because it is all entirely contrary to the truth of the Church. We believe that Our Lord Jesus Christ is our God, our Savior, our Redeemer; we believe that the Catholic Church alone has the Truth, thus we draw the proper conclusions, by respecting in our personal lives the Religion which Our Lord Jesus Christ founded. (...)
He it is who has given us the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, He who died upon the Cross. Already on the day of the Last (...)thus making priests of those to whom He gave the power to consecrate the Eucharist. He did this by His own Will, His Will as God, because Jesus Christ is God; He has, thus, given us the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which we love so much, which is our life, our hope, and our salvation. This Sacrifice of Calvary cannot be transformed, the Sacrifice of the Last Supper cannot be transformed - for there was a Sacrifice at the Last Supper - we cannot transform this Sacrifice into a simple commemorative meal, a simple repast at which a memory is recalled, this is not possible. To do such a thing would be to destroy the whole of our Religion, to destroy the most precious thing which Our Lord has given us here on earth, the immaculate( ...)
The Church is essentially priestly because she offers the redemptive Sacrifice which Our Lord made on Calvary, and which she renews upon our altars. For a true Catholic, one who is truly faithful to Our Lord Jesus Christ, anything which touches what He Himself established moves him to the very depths of his heart, for he loves it as the apple of his eye. So, if it comes, in any way, to the point of destroying from within what Our Lord Jesus Christ gave to us as the source of life, as the source of grace, then we suffer, we suffer dreadfully, and we demand absolutely that this spring, this fountain of life, this fountain of eternal life, this fountain of Grace be preserved for us whole and entire.
And if such is true of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, it is also true of the Sacraments. It is not possible to make any considerable changes in the Sacraments without destroying them, without running the risk of rendering them invalid, and consequently without running the risk of drying up the grace, the supernatural and eternal life which they bring to us. It is again Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who established the Sacraments; it is not for us, we are not the masters of the Sacraments: even the Sovereign Pontiff cannot change them. Without doubt he can make changes in the rites, in what is accidental in any Sacrament; but no Sovereign Pontiff can change the substance of a Sacrament, for that was established by Our Lord Jesus Christ. It is Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who took such care in the founding of our holy Religion, Who left us directions as to what we must do, Who gave Himself to us in the Holy Eucharist through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. What more could we ask? What other religion can lay claim to possess such a thing? And why? Because the only true religion is that of the Catholic Church.
This is a matter of fundamental importance, fundamental for our behavior, fundamental for our religion, and fundamental also for the way we should behave towards those people who do not believe in our holy Religion. This is extremely important, because it is precisely towards those who do not believe, those who do not have our Faith, that we must have immense charity, the true charity. We must not deceive them by telling them that their religion is as good as ours - that is a lie, that is selfishness, that is not true charity. If we consider what profound riches have been given to us in this Religion of ours, then we should have the desire to make it known to others, and share these riches and not say to them: "But you already have all you need! There is no point in your joining us, your religion is as good as ours." See how this matter is one of paramount importance, for it is precisely such false ecuмenism which makes the adherents of all the other religions believe that they have certain means of salvation. Now this is false. Only the Catholic Religion, and only the Mystical Body of Christ, possesses the means of salvation. We cannot be saved without Jesus, and we cannot be saved without grace. "He who does not believe," said Our Lord, "will be condemned." We must believe in Our Lord Jesus Christ in order to be saved. "He who believes shall be saved; he who obeys My commandments shall have eternal life; he who eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood shall have eternal life." Here is what Our Lord taught us. Therefore, we should have a tremendous desire, a really tremendous desire, to communicate our Faith to others. And this is exactly what made the missionary spirit of the Church. If the strength, the certainty, of our faith is weakened, then the missionary spirit of the Church also diminishes, since it is no longer necessary to cross the seas, to cross the oceans, to go and preach the Gospel, for what is the good of it? Let us leave each man to his own religion, if that religion is going to save him.
Therefore, we must hold fast to our Faith, we must adhere strictly to its affirmation, and we must not accept this false ecuмenism which makes all religions into sister-religions of Christianity, for they are nothing of the kind. It is very important to state this nowadays, because it is precisely this false ecuмenism which had too much influence after the Council. False ecuмenism is the reason why the seminaries are empty. Why is this so? Why are there no more vocations for the missionary orders? Precisely because young men no longer feel the need to make the Truth known to the whole world. They no longer feel the need to give themselves completely to Our Lord Jesus Christ simply because Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only Truth, the only Way, the only Life. What attracts the young to preach the Gospel is that they know they have the Truth. If vocations are withering away, it is due to this false ecuмenism. How we suffer at the thought that, in certain countries, people speak of "eucharistic hospitality," of "inter-communion" - as if one could give the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ to those who do not believe in the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, consequently to those who do not adore the Holy Eucharist, because they do not believe in it! Without sacrilege, without blasphemy, the Body and Blood of Our Savior cannot be given to a person who denies His Real Presence in the Eucharist. On this point, therefore, we must have a firm and solid faith, a faith which does not compromise. This is entirely in keeping with the tradition of the Church.
Thus the martyrs believed who lie buried everywhere in this basilica, and in all the churches of Rome, who suffered here in this forum of Augustus, who lived among pagans for three centuries and were persecuted as soon as they were known to be Christians. They were thrown into prison...our thoughts turn to the Mamertine prison, so close to us here, where Peter and Paul were put in chains because of their faith: And shall we be afraid to affirm our faith? We would not in that case be the true descendants of the martyrs, the true descendants of those Christians who shed their blood for Our Lord Jesus Christ in affirmation of their faith in Him. They, too, could indeed have said, "But, since all religions are of equal value, if I burn a little incense before an idol, what does that matter? My life will be saved." But they preferred to die, they preferred to be thrown to the beasts in the Colosseum, quite close to us here. So many, many martyrs were thrown to the beasts, rather than offer incense to pagan gods!
So, may our presence here in Rome be an occasion for us to strengthen our faith, to have, if necessary, the souls of martyrs, the souls of witnesses (for a martyr is a witness), the souls of witnesses of Our Lord Jesus Christ, witnesses of the Church. Here is what I wish you, my most dear brethren, and in this we must be unflinching, whatever happens. We must never agree to diminish our faith; and if by misfortune it were to happen that those who ought to defend our Faith came to tell us to lessen or diminish it, then we must say: "NO." Saint Paul put this very well: "Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema." Well, that, I think, sums up clearly what I wanted to say to you, so that when you return to your homes you may have the courage, the strength, despite difficulties, despite trials, to remain true to your Faith, come what may, We must think on these things, (...) because it is what Our Lord told us: "If we do not believe, we shall be condemned."
If the 1975 jubilee pilgrimage was a protest and done without Rome's knowledge, would ABL be allowed to celebrated Mass at a Roman basilica?
If the 1975 jubilee pilgrimage was a protest and done without Rome's knowledge, would ABL be allowed to celebrated Mass at a Roman basilica?Please excuse my s l o w internet connection...
There are no more graces to be conferred by the SSPX, not even on a pilgrimage to RomeAlthough this comment wasn’t originally directed at me, I’m going to answer it in a way that may resonate with others on CI.
It is very sad if this ^ is your belief, are you resistance or part of the NeoSSPX?
I was browsing their website on NFP .These links worked for me...
https://sspx.org/en/nfp-unhappy-compromise
https://sspx.org/en/danger-marital-love-and-fidelity-nfp
Quote from: trento (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=77666.msg996904#msg996904) 2025-08-24, 7:17:18 AM”…It is therefore impossible for any conscientious and faithful Catholic to espouse this reformation and to submit to it in any way whatsoever.
If the 1975 jubilee pilgrimage was a protest and done without Rome's knowledge, would ABL be allowed to celebrated Mass at a Roman basilica?
Although this comment wasn’t originally directed at me, I’m going to answer it in a way that may resonate with others on CI.......Wow, very well said!
Wow, very well said!If they were going to Rome in the same spirit of +Lefebvre, to oppose the false modernist religion and stand firm against anti-christ doctrines of ecuмenism, LGBT, annulments, Protestant worship service, communion in the hand, priestesses and so on. If the SSPX leaders would condemn the new religion and insist Rome embrace Christ the King and His rights over governments and all souls, that we must submit to His teachings and commandments that could be applauded but that is not the case. Instead they are bringing in Novus Ordo "priests" and not conditionally ordaining them, same for confirmations. They hardly ever speak firmly against Vatll or the bad fruits so evident today. They now have the local "bishop" who's consecration is more than doubtful, hanging on the wall next to +Lefebvre.
I've been mainly using the SSPX priests for the Mass and sacraments basically my whole life, your post was very well said. To date, I have never, not even once heard any heresy or error from the pulpit in spite of the scandals going on with Menzingen, and if they want to go to Rome and proudly champion the true faith and Mass to the faces of the modernist heretics in charge - God Bless them.
If it weren't for all of the divisions and splits in the last 50 years, maybe there would have been a few million instead of a few thousand, who knows?
Stephen Kokx on X: "An important Archbishop Lefebvre quote in light of the recent SSPX-Rome pilgrimage and the reaction it has caused among many Trads who don't even attend the Society: "This is what causes us a problem with certain layfolk, who are very nice, very good people, all for the Society, https://t.co/NjFf8WzDEC" / X (https://x.com/StephenKokx/status/1959457098762211707)Yes it does seem most don’t know the forest from the trees.
An important Archbishop Lefebvre quote in light of the recent SSPX-Rome pilgrimage and the reaction it has caused among many Trads who don't even attend the Society:
"This is what causes us a problem with certain layfolk, who are very nice, very good people, all for the Society, who accepted the Consecrations, but who have a kind of deep-down regret that they are no longer with the people they used to be with, people who did not accept the Consecrations and who are now against us. 'It's a pity we are divided,' they say, 'why not meet up with them? Let's go and have a drink together, reach out a hand to them' — that's a betrayal! Those saying this give the impression that at the drop of a hat they would cross over and join those who left us. They must make up their minds."
"...I hope that any Trad will see a marked contrast between +Lefebvre's sermon at the Credo pilgrimage 1975,
It seems over the last 15 years that they gave up the fight for the truth and are afraid to make waves. After all, they might get crucified if they speak against the Pharisees.
I hope that any Trad will see a marked contrast between +Lefebvre's sermon at the Credo pilgrimage 1975,Fr. Pagliarani is the “conservative”version of Bishop Fellay, same agenda, unite with the conciliar church, he even looks similar.
https://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Apologia/Vol_one/Chapter_6.htm
and the sermon given by Fr. Pagliarani on August 20, 2025 Colle Oppio at the Pilgrimage of Hope.
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/neosspx-says-mass-in-modernist-rome/msg996741/#msg996741
****Spot the difference?
NeoSspx sort of submitted to the Roman authorities, then on August 22 or 23 the Vatican DELETED Fraternity SSPX from the official records of that Pilgrimage. ... they got slapped. +L often said:" You can't trust Modernists."
Fr. Pagliarani is the “conservative”version of Bishop Fellay, same agenda, unite with the conciliar church, he even looks similar.
Fr. Pagliarani is the “conservative”version of Bishop Fellay, same agenda, unite with the conciliar church, he even looks similar.Sermon, neoSspx Pilgrimage 2018 at Lourdes. Fr. Pagliarani