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Re: Neo SSPX Seminary Pushing the 3 D's
« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2023, 11:49:35 AM »
Tis a timely bump.I relayed via PM to one of my circle here on CI, that the priory that serves us has just received a newly ordained priest. He offered his first public masses, with first priestly blessings, this past weekend at our mission chapel. He hails from a very large family out of Quebec. He received his formation at Econe. I thought he was from France because his Latin is excellent (with a slight French accent) and he does not have that horrible Quebecois dialect to his speech. His English is very broken.

I first met him in the parking lot before Saturday evening Mass and offered him my handshake. This is when my theological deflector shields were raised. It is one of the most limp wristed attempts at a handshake I have ever come across in men. So I thought, oh dear, we got one of these new 3D priests! Even when speaking with him in French, he was very soft spoken - causing me to increase shield strength! The third item was the EXTREMELY fancy and delicate lace alb that Father wore for the Masses. My mind jumped immediately to the ICK priests and their lavender laced linens. In light of the holy oils query I posted earlier, I certainly pray there is nothing lacking in the validity of his ordination.

In short, where our chapel heard we were getting a new priest formed in Econe, my first perception was "uh oh."
God bless this new priest and may he turn out good but indeed it is an "uh oh" situation.

Christe eleison. Gospoda pomiluj. Panie zmiluj sie nad nami.  :pray::pray::pray::incense::incense::incense:

I don't know about French-speaking Canadians, but French men in general seem effeminate to the rest of us Westerners.

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Re: Neo SSPX Seminary Pushing the 3 D's
« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2023, 07:56:59 PM »
The third item was the EXTREMELY fancy and delicate lace alb that Father wore for the Masses. My mind jumped immediately to the ICK priests and their lavender laced linens.

ICK (Institute of Christ the King) priests? Maybe.
But that's not what I think of when I hear of ostentatious or long surplices! I think of SOCIETY OF ST. JOHN a.k.a. "The Johnnies".

They had long surplices with very long sleeves, lots of lace, and they were very theatrical in their directing of Gregorian Chant. This was according to Br. Marcel, who was there at the time.

And it's true. As a matter of fact, when I was at the Seminary they had standard surplices made by a group of nuns, so that surplices were no longer left to one's personal taste, bank account, etc. Everyone had the same kind. I understand why! I was there 2000 - 2003, and the Johnnies were there around 1997 I think.

I'm talking about Fr. Uruttigoity's group, who, sure enough, were later involved in scandals involving boys.


Re: Neo SSPX Seminary Pushing the 3 D's
« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2023, 09:22:55 PM »
ICK (Institute of Christ the King) priests? Maybe.
But that's not what I think of when I hear of ostentatious or long surplices! I think of SOCIETY OF ST. JOHN a.k.a. "The Johnnies".

They had long surplices with very long sleeves, lots of lace, and they were very theatrical in their directing of Gregorian Chant. This was according to Br. Marcel, who was there at the time.

And it's true. As a matter of fact, when I was at the Seminary they had standard surplices made by a group of nuns, so that surplices were no longer left to one's personal taste, bank account, etc. Everyone had the same kind. I understand why! I was there 2000 - 2003, and the Johnnies were there around 1997 I think.

I'm talking about Fr. Uruttigoity's group, who, sure enough, were later involved in scandals involving boys.
As recounted elsewhere, I almost joined the SSJ (circa 2000) - I still have the long sleeved surplice although without the fancy lace embroidery (I could not wear that!) (The long sleeve surplice is used as an All Hallows/All Saints vestment.) I no longer can serve Mass because of my health, but for certain times of the liturgical year where the Divine Office is recited during ceremonies, I will don either my Roman cassock or the Eastern equivalent I own from another vocational foray. (With the ever growing beard that I sport, plus I always wear one of two St. Benedict crucifixes, I tend to look very eastern/ Slavic liturgically when in black :smirk:)
I visited the ICK in the US long before 2000, and that is where I saw the uber-fancy albs.

I would love to wear my full blown Templar duds - tunic, gloves, cloak with hood, sword and dagger, and chainmail coiffe - for an All Saints party, if we have one this year. Si Deus vult.......


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Re: Neo SSPX Seminary Pushing the 3 D's
« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2023, 12:04:09 AM »
I would love to wear my full blown Templar duds - tunic, gloves, cloak with hood, sword and dagger, and chainmail coiffe - for an All Saints party, if we have one this year. Si Deus vult.......
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Knights Templars? Have you read the history of that organization? :trollface:

Re: Neo SSPX Seminary Pushing the 3 D's
« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2023, 12:23:42 PM »
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Knights Templars? Have you read the history of that organization? :trollface:
well, the Templars before they went down the tubes. I do have a Hospitaler tunic as well. :smirk:

An addendum, with respect to the new priest in my parts......

When requesting parishioners to come forth to receive the laying on of hands priestly blessing, he did not say come to the altar rail, or to the altar but twice uttered 'Communion Table'. That also makes me wonder what they are teaching in neosspx seminaries.
Root and twig, very odd, very odd indeed.